List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

[King Corey]

Edit: will update if ppl happy for this to sticky

Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.

• Mac Andrew
• Hunter Clark
• Zac Fisher
• Sam Flanders
• Mitch Georgiades
• Liam Henry
• Dougal Howard
• Lewis Melican
• Jack Silvagni
• Dylan Stephens
• Adam Tomlinson

 

[Roosurgence]

Henry can have the saints….not convinced they are going to become a force in years to come…

I’m not 100% sure he fits their side. They already have plenty of outside run.

But I don’t think we will lose sleep if we were interested and he hasn’t chosen us.

 

[Only Forwards]

I always find it odd when we pot finals sides from the cheap seats in the bottom 2.

Perhaps an element here is not all finals sides are equal and we went through 20 years of where Saint Kilda appear to be now.

Not good enough to actually challenge, not bad enough to get the top talent. From these cheap seats it almost looks like they've been told they can't bottom out (they were carrying $7m in debt at the end of last year).

This is then compounded by Lyon not being a rebuilding coach, he is a coach that wants to challenge every year. He doesn't have the pieces to do that and I can't see how he gets them? They would need everything to fall right to steal a flag.

As much as I want to be back in finals I don't want us to be scraping in having sides that are clearly above where we top out.

 

[Roosurgence]

Perhaps an element here is not all finals sides are equal and we went through 20 years of where Saint Kilda appear to be now.

Not good enough to actually challenge, not bad enough to get the top talent. From these cheap seats it almost looks like they've been told they can't bottom out (they were carrying $7m in debt at the end of last year).

This is then compounded by Lyon not being a rebuilding coach, he is a coach that wants to challenge every year. He doesn't have the pieces to do that and I can't see how he gets them? They would need everything to fall right to steal a flag.

As much as I want to be back in finals I don't want us to be scraping in having sides that are clearly above where we top out.

Can’t like the bolded bit enough.

100% agree there is a massive difference between making finals and making finals while pushing towards a flag.

 

[Makeshift Park]

On the off-chance there was anything to this Scrimshaw scuttlebutt, as a good contracted player, would the trade capital be about an F2? Or, if we got the same PP as last year, the higher of the two picks?

(Yes I’m just posting this as an excuse to use the phrase “Scrimshaw scuttlebutt”)

 

[Rod Stroker]

For Scrimshaw, I suspect Mitchell would have zero motivation to want to do a fair trade with us/Clarko. For any Hawks player. But he in particular isn't one we should be considering overpaying for just to get the trade done.

 

[desie]

I always find it odd when we pot finals sides from the cheap seats in the bottom 2.

And as an extension, denigrate the majority of opposition players who might be linked with us, conveniently ignoring the dross on our list who they’d replace.

 

[spurs]

I always find it odd when we pot finals sides from the cheap seats in the bottom 2.

What about players from finals sides like Clark?

 

[Tas]

On the off-chance there was anything to this Scrimshaw scuttlebutt, as a good contracted player, would the trade capital be about an F2? Or, if we got the same PP as last year, the higher of the two picks?

(Yes I’m just posting this as an excuse to use the phrase “Scrimshaw scuttlebutt”)

What happened with Scrimshaw?

 

[Roostorm]

I’m not 100% sure he fits their side. They already have plenty of outside run.

But I don’t think we will lose sleep if we were interested and he hasn’t chosen us.

Nope agree with your thoughts on not losing any sleep….he‘ll end up being just another footballer in their ordinary production line….

 

[muttley45]

Was Dougal Howard

20

Dougal Howard

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

injured, or did Ross Lyon decide he's not up to elimination final standard ? if the latter, i actually agree with him, hope we are not looking at him.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Was Dougal Howard injured, or did Ross Lyon decide he's not up to elimination final standard ? if the latter, i actually agree with him, hope we are not looking at him.

Probably a little of both. I hope we steer clear.

 

[HBFlanker]

And how we going to get in fisher, stephens, Clark etc? These aren't going to be big picks but still need prob 3 if not 4 of the picks you have just traded away


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More than happy to forgo those players if we can land picks 2,3,4

 

[Passmore]

Probably a little of both. I hope we steer clear.

When Zaine Cordy is out there getting his pants pulled down, it’s grim for Doogie Howser.

 

[Makeshift Park]

What happened with Scrimshaw?

Allegedly, he's been seen dining with Clarko, and a few posters on the Hawks board think we are after him.

He's also contracted for another year.

 

[Harris 10]

Howard is a very average player, but he’s miles ahead of Tomlinson as a KPD.

 

[New_Roo]

More than happy to forgo those players if we can land picks 2,3,4

Well fort we aren't


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[New_Roo]

When Zaine Cordy is out there getting his pants pulled down, it’s grim for Doogie Howser.

He was injured last game of ssn so potentially didn't come up in time


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[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

Adam Tomlinson

20

Adam Tomlinson

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.3

3star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

has lost 3 off 22 1v1s this season (13.6%)
Dougal Howard

20

Dougal Howard

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

has lost 13 of 58 (22.4%)
Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

has lost 11 of 46 (23.9%)

Tomlinson not playing against the same standard of player but still a great record.

 

[ferball]

Jesus Christ! Did you just say Jy can use both sides?? campaigner couldn't hit Nikki minaj's ass with his right. * me.

I bet you couldn't either with your best foot at 10m.

 

[Junk yard]

I bet you couldn't either with your best foot at 10m.

I'm not a professional footballer.

 

[deano28]

Adam Tomlinson has lost 3 off 22 1v1s this season (13.6%)
Dougal Howard has lost 13 of 58 (22.4%)
Ben McKay has lost 11 of 46 (23.9%)

Tomlinson not playing against the same standard of player but still a great record.

Yeah, but there are levels to this … counter argument is that Mckay has played on the opposition’s best forward whilst his direct opponents have been getting by far the cleaner forward entries .

Tomlinson and to a lesser extent Howard would be getting a lot more junk forward entries .

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

Yeah, but there are levels to this … counter argument is that Mckay has played on the opposition’s best forward whilst his direct opponents have been getting by far the cleaner forward entries .

Tomlinson and to a lesser extent Howard would be getting a lot more junk forward entries .

Tomlinson not playing against the same standard of player but still a great record.

 

[krakouers]

I bet you couldn't either with your best foot at 10m.

I’d take that bet… Minaj has no shortage of junk in her trunk

 

[Disco Dew]

I’d take that bet… Minaj has no shortage of junk in her trunk

 

[ferball]

I’d take that bet… Minaj has no shortage of junk in her trunk

Her bum would be less than 2 feet wide. Still easy as at 10m.