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Oh, yes please. The reason I’m a Freo supporter is the way the team played that first season with Neesham. So much more attractive than what the bunch from the city were doing at the time. Lovely flowing footyYeah was thinking the same. You don’t need to worry as much about forward pressure if you’re banging them through & sending it back to the middle.
You need it if you’re running with the Lyon game of kicking it on the forwards heads. Not so much if Treacy, Sturt, Amiss are taking marks on the lead, Fred is kicking them on the run from 50 & Shai is doing Shai things.
Oh, yes please. The reason I’m a Freo supporter is the way the team played that first season with Neesham. So much more attractive than what the bunch from the city were doing at the time. Lovely flowing footy
Rookies don't need to be upgraded to play anymore - even Category B rookies.It has just occurred to me that what we might be doing is promoting Draper to the main list in 2025. That would mean 3 main draft, 1 rookie draft or Sam Powell-Pepper and 0,1 or 2 new Cat B's
Since there are no LTI's atm there is no way for Draper to play round 1 if he stays on the B unless we run one short on the rookie list. If we leave as B then it would cost us two potential additional players (unless I'm missing something obviously).
In fact thinking about it I'm not immediately seeing list space for Narkle and redrafting Knoble to the RL without promoting someone off the RL into one of our 4 current main list spaces.
When you have Darcy, kinda have to.I don't see the need to develop rucks, as there is always a good ruck behind a primary ruck.
We lost Schultz because of this practice. Yes, it's worked out, but it could have easily gone pear shapedRookies don't need to be upgraded to play anymore - even Category B rookies.
Upgrading Draper is only robbing us of a list spot but it has to be done under league rules end of next year.
I thought it was just Cat A players that didn't need to be upgraded anymore not Cat B, but I should have checked first (2024 rules):Rookies don't need to be upgraded to play anymore - even Category B rookies.
Upgrading Draper is only robbing us of a list spot but it has to be done under league rules end of next year.
No that's different. That was a temporary rule during COVID when they cut list sizes that allowed clubs to relist delisted main listed players as rookies (1 per club I think. Banfield had to run the gauntlet from memory) without having to use the draft. This was just talking about eligibility to play.We lost Schultz because of this practice. Yes, it's worked out, but it could have easily gone pear shaped
Better to reward players by putting them on the main list.
Who we gonna pick at 14 which will most likely be 17 on the night
ExactlyI often wonder what Gerard could have done if he had this list we currently have.
I reckon the Dirty Birds will be all over him like a rash.Bo Allan
I wonder if Knobel can spend five years on the rookie list way to develop his body assuming he doesn't play those ten games or whatever threshold the AFL set
If I were, say, Melbourne I'd grab Knobel in the rookie draft for sure. (Or even a late draft pick.) But I doubt it happens. We can look at the situation in all its nuance and say "Well, Reidy is a really solid ruck and Knobel is still developing physically" but on paper it is a 20 year old who is splitting time between State League and State League reserves.
Bo Allan
I thought it was just Cat A players that didn't need to be upgraded anymore not Cat B, but I should have checked first (2024 rules):
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So then we have 4 ML 1 Cat A spot and 1 Cat B assuming we run 36 and 6
We lost Schultz because of this practice. Yes, it's worked out, but it could have easily gone pear shaped
Better to reward players by putting them on the main list.
Sorry been out of the loop for a bitIt has just occurred to me that what we might be doing is promoting Draper to the main list in 2025. That would mean 3 main draft, 1 rookie draft or Sam Powell-Pepper and 0,1 or 2 new Cat B's
Since there are no LTI's atm there is no way for Draper to play round 1 if he stays on the B unless we run one short on the rookie list. If we leave as B then it would cost us two potential additional players (unless I'm missing something obviously).
In fact thinking about it I'm not immediately seeing list space for Narkle and redrafting Knoble to the RL without promoting someone off the RL into one of our 4 current main list spaces.
I think that was a pun (ie: rookies are taken in the Supplemental Selection Period which is called the SSP, which sounds similar to and is sometimes wrongly called the SPP).Sorry been out of the loop for a bit
What’s this SPP talk ?
I think that was a pun (ie: rookies are taken in the Supplemental Selection Period which is called the SSP, which sounds similar to and is sometimes wrongly called the SPP).
Who we gonna pick at 14 which will most likely be 17 on the night
I think we will wait like a vulture waiting for some teams to make a "mistake" and also we may hear offers from others as well to trade the pick down. I expect that Richmond in particular will probably start to go more a "needs" (or for a better term: a spread of positions) basis rather than "best available", which will leave players who are probably better than those picked before out on the table and cause a domino effect. What that may mean for supporters is we pick up a player who is not an area of need, which may annoy some, but I honestly think this is the right strategy given our list is pretty balanced..
Based upon the amount of effort we have put into them, I think we "rate" Berry (rated 18 in Twomey's latest rankings), Lindsay (rated 17th), Travaglia (rated 11th) and Shanahan (rated 20) higher than most. But as I said, it won't surprise if someone we like that falls down the list because of others gets picked by us simply because they fell through.
This is a really good response. Thank you for your post.
Although I already had thought that Richmond past their first few picks would go on list needs not best available to avoid a big list imbalance I didn't think of how this would affect other teams, plus Walls list of best available I rate over other talent bosses from other clubs.
The whole we must get Berry talk from both myself and others could end in disappointment but at best available a player from a different position may present themselves. Who this is on draft night could help our club longer term than who we want as pundits.
In the Serong, Young draft I rated Young highly but wasn't sure about Serong. Serong I think took a lot if us by surprise and now is heat and soul Freo. Chapman the year later I thought was a reach but again now I see why Walls rates him and he's even more important now Young has moved into the middle.