Game Day 2024 Trade Period - Lian Yu - that liminal space between trade and draft.

[wakojako]

My speculation is that he would if we'd commit but Warner is a lock next year so they can't.

If that is true then our list management are a bit special in the head. I honestly dgaf if they made any guarantees to Warner. He turned down our offer in 2022 and doesn't want to be traded this year. Club needs to stop bending over backwards for him and make Bolton and Pickett happen.

 

[dont bowl there]

To be fair, even if Oliver leaves the Dees could still see Kozzie as an important part of their next finals push. He is only 23 and would still only be 28-29 if they went through a 5 year rebuild, although I think even if he doesn't go this year, he will go at some point. From our end, we just really need him and his management to start making some noise to force their hand.

Fair point, I hope that if the Dees trade Oliver they know for fact that the current window is closed and it would only take a half hearted appeal from Kozzie to come home. If they keep Oliver and still think they are a chance at a flag it would take Kozzie coming out a lot stronger to get here. I'm just not sure that's in his nature, to make a big deal publicly to force his way out.

 

[Big Animal]

where did all the Angus talk come from? I first mentioned the 2 brothers over here and that was Hamish and the SAS bro Will. Angus is quite settled in Melbourne.

 

[Superkoops]

I'm concerned Kelly would keep Erasmus out of the side and he would request a trade at the end of next year. I don't think we need another 30 year old inside mid

Peeps forget about Kelly. According to Ryan Daniels his management contacted Freo and it went no further than a casual chat. Basically this code word for not interested. Sammy Edmund is known to completely make up s*#t. Just move on and don’t waste pages of rubbish I have scroll through.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

If that is true then our list management are a bit special in the head. I honestly dgaf if they made any guarantees to Warner. He turned down our offer in 2022 and doesn't want to be traded this year. Club needs to stop bending over backwards for him and make Bolton and Pickett happen.

Yeah, I've made my thoughts known but without knowing all details, not sure I'm ready for "special in the head" haha. I would say if we aren't bringing Pickett in then they'd sure as shit better not miss on Warner and you'd want a deal all but signed.

 

[dont bowl there]

Peeps forget about Kelly. According to Ryan Daniels his management contacted Freo and it went no further than a casual chat. Basically this code word for not interested. Sammy Edmund is known to completely make up s*#t. Just move on and don’t waste pages of rubbish I have scroll through.

Casual chats are where all trades start though, if there was a chat between club and management its a story IMO.

 

[Superkoops]

Casual chats are where all trades start though, if there was a chat between club and management its a story IMO.

I’m satisfied with Daniels quick response and equally happy with the quick and emphatic response from his player manager putting any rumours to bed. I heard Anthony Van Der Wielen rather strongly kill this first thing this morning whilst I was as driving to work. Stating that Kelly has no intention of leaving.

Freo have committed to Erasmus, NOD and Johnson. You also have JOM and Fyfe. We’re trying to get rid of Brodie and every chance he stays. We are tight on list spots. Not going to happen. Not with Freo.

 

[CakeEater]

Tim Kelly couldn't play the role JOM is playing for us.

Au Contraire, hes tailor made for the Whipping boy role

 

[dont bowl there]

I’m satisfied with Daniels quick response and equally happy with the quick and emphatic response from his player manager putting any rumours to bed. I heard Anthony Van Der Wielen rather strongly kill this first thing this morning whilst I was as driving to work. Stating that Kelly has no intention of leaving.

Freo have committed to Erasmus, NOD and Johnson. You also have JOM and Fyfe. We’re trying to get rid of Brodie and every chance he stays. We are tight on list spots. Not going to happen. Not with Freo.

Managers lie more than any other person in football though. I don't think it will happen either, but if talks were had it's a story until the end of trade week.

 

[freo1997]

Fyfe should retire. He is a champ of the game who went downhill fast. He struggled with handballing by the end of season. He is taking Erasmus spot in the team or even the potential experiment of Nod in there.
No one wants to talk about it but he should be pushed to retire. We all know it.

 

[Purpletown]

I do sorta feel like we are getting to that point with the talent on our list that we are inevitably gonna lose talent in 2-5 years' time. Especially bringing in Bolton and Warner and/or Kozzie. I know Cox and Darcy are tied up long term (and I'm not at all keen to trade them) but wouldn't be surprised to see one of them or a Ryan or Brayshaw kind finish their career elsewhere after 2027-2028.

I think we need to get to the point where our list is good enough that players we would like to keep are getting forced out. That would be a sure sign we are on the right track talent wise.

 

[arsesmart]

Fyfe should retire. He is a champ of the game who went downhill fast. He struggled with handballing by the end of season. He is taking Erasmus spot in the team or even the potential experiment of Nod in there.
No one wants to talk about it but he should be pushed to retire. We all know it.

No we don't "all know it". In fact I think it's a somewhat bizarre take. He was a valued member of an elite performing midfield. We actually need more options, not less.

 

[freo1997]

No we don't "all know it". In fact I think it's a somewhat bizarre take. He was a valued member of an elite performing midfield. We actually need more options, not less.

Doesn’t run both ways and has horrendous skills now. Looks a shadow of his former self even on the eye looks like he has less drive to win. He will be a year older and slower next year, hope he’s prepared to drive down to Mandurah.

 

[Taylor]

If Andrew Brayshaw

8

Andrew Brayshaw

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.3

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

2.1

4star

D

18.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.1

4star

D

12.6

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

is getting offers near $1.5m and they want to get him on board this year, the year before he is a free agent, then it seems crazy to me that they'd pay the absolute ransom Freo will want for him.

That news wouldn't want to come out until all the other deals are done so that the #7 and #8 from St Kilda don't end up in those other deals simply because we have them available.

 

[Jezzitizle]

If Andrew Brayshaw is getting offers near $1.5m and they want to get him on board this year, the year before he is a free agent, then it seems crazy to me that they'd pay the absolute ransom Freo will want for him.

That news wouldn't want to come out until all the other deals are done so that the #7 and #8 from St Kilda don't end up in those other deals simply because we have them available.

It’s not going to happen, and if it were they couldn’t keep it quiet.

Remember his manager will probably be leaking to the media to try to increase his offer too.

 

[arsesmart]

Doesn’t run both ways and has horrendous skills now. Looks a shadow of his former self even on the eye looks like he has less drive to win. He will be a year older and slower next year, hope he’s prepared to drive down to Mandurah.

It's very likely he'll be managed through this year. But there'll be plenty of room for more O'Driscoll inside mid time, a la last two rounds. Hopefully there'll be Fyfe as player-coach for the up and comers, like NOD and Erasmus, to benefit from.

 

[wakojako]

Yeah, I've made my thoughts known but without knowing all details, not sure I'm ready for "special in the head" haha. I would say if we aren't bringing Pickett in then they'd sure as shit better not miss on Warner and you'd want a deal all but signed.

IF Pickett is available we should be choosing him over over Warner. The cost of bringing in Warner (cap and picks) can blow up in our face, not to mention he isn't even guaranteed to come to Freo and could change his mind. A rational organisation in this circumstance would choose Pickett, regardless of any guarantees made. Our list is so close to contending. It's taken years to get here and I don't want to piss it away on one player.

 

[Cobbler]

IF Pickett is available we should be choosing him over over Warner. The cost of bringing in Warner (cap and picks) can blow up in our face, not to mention he isn't even guaranteed to come to Freo and could change his mind. A rational organisation in this circumstance would choose Pickett, regardless of any guarantees made. Our list is so close to contending. It's taken years to get here and I don't want to piss it away on one player.

Yep.

It’s either Bolton and Picket
Or Chad and Pickett

But Pickett coming I’d imagine is on the proviso we land Bolton

Bolton and then the Chad although sounds awesome, feels a bit same same (I know they’re not, so calm down)

 

[dominguez]

Norf going after a washed up Luke Parker is such a Norf move. The money would have to be massive overs for a 32 year old for him to want to head there.

Teams have to pay 90% of the cap? If your list is terrible you might as well have a couple of 30 year olds on 500k who set standards in the gym, on the track, etc.

 

[dominguez]

The Kelly talk smacks of his management trying to put subtle pressure on WC to start talks on an extended contract. Not saying in some world it’s impossible but that’s how I read it. Management 101.

Same manager as Shai Bolton so he would have been meeting with Freo anyway and would have asked the question
re: Kelly.

 

[dominguez]

If we are hiring Angus Brayshaw for a footy department role then we'd want to sign Andrew before that happens so the AFL don't start thinking the two are linked.

Haven't seen that mentioned previously re: Angus, where was that reported?

 

[dont bowl there]

Teams have to pay 90% of the cap? If your list is terrible you might as well have a couple of 30 year olds on 500k who set standards in the gym, on the track, etc.

Agree, don't mind this one from North and he showed in that last quarter of the GF when played correctly he can still impact.

 

[Sturty2Hurty]

Teams have to pay 90% of the cap? If your list is terrible you might as well have a couple of 30 year olds on 500k who set standards in the gym, on the track, etc.

Or you could spend it on bringing in decent players worth the money? Not that I’m complaining

 

[dominguez]

Fyfe should retire. He is a champ of the game who went downhill fast. He struggled with handballing by the end of season. He is taking Erasmus spot in the team or even the potential experiment of Nod in there.
No one wants to talk about it but he should be pushed to retire. We all know it.

Fyfe is super professional with his diet, his preparation, on the track, etc. With a young group he's like an extra assistant coach. If Erasmus demands a role Fyfe will retire mid-season, but he's contracted and a handy fringe player.

Our 3 key backs in Cox, McDonald and Pearce missed about 50 games between them this season. I certainly hope it doesn't happen but if something similar happened to our midfield next year then Fyfe, Erasmus, Brodie become important players. Brisbane showed this year with 5 x ACL's that you need depth.

I envision Fyfe and Walters playing about 5 full games and 5 as the sub at the start/end of the game next year.

 

[dominguez]

Or you could spend it on bringing in decent players worth the money? Not that I’m complaining

List cloggers are easier to attract than A graders.