Game Day 2024 Trade Period - Lian Yu - that liminal space between trade and draft.

[theGav56]

I would go as far as to say that if given the choice of Chad , Shai or Kozzie for us right at this time, it is Shai Bolton. If everything else remains equal Shai gets us into a Grand Final.
For this type of talent you do what we have just done.
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Yes I agree.

Frederick and Switkowski must be grinning from ear to ear. Kick the ball in, Treacy hammers the contest, and release the exocets.

It has been mentioned, but Bolton's midfield ability and impact is another tick.

We have mids who can rotate forward with him and that switch will be a nice disrupter for Longmuir to use.

 

[oldgoat]

When you only have 2 good players under 26 you can pay them $1.5M each a season.

my financial adviser says beware of unbalanced portfolios...
some thing about black swan events and fratricide risk multipliers???

 

[oldgoat]

Diehard eagle supporter and their skipper


Eagles would have to push him out big time

will he diehard on the 2nd salary tier?

 

[oldgoat]

I agree, I think we paid slight overs for Bolton. Richmond played the game well, they knew how desperate we were to get him, so were always confident we would cough up.

Still happy with the result. It was either that or spend another season bemoaning the lack of goalkicking small forwards.

We paid overs for our house at auction 25 years ago...+$4k!

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Bolton will add plenty but he won't be the difference in winning a flag. Will come down to the core group getting better and the fringe/young players going up a level or two.

Very talented list that can absolutely win it all.

I disagree with you mate. To use a war analogy, we could have procured a really fine rifle to add to our fine army but we went for a cannon to join our fine army to win the war.
We were one quality forward short of what we needed but we went and got the absolute best in the competition.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

my financial adviser says beware of unbalanced portfolios...
some thing about black swan events and fratricide risk multipliers???

Yes , fratricide it is.
wc could literally destroy themselves from within.
The wonder boy could potentially be the poison chalice for them. I wish his manager was Colin Young; that would get it done.

 

[CapitalA]

I disagree with you mate. To use a war analogy, we could have procured a really fine rifle to add to our fine army but we went for a cannon to join our fine army to win the war.
We were one quality forward short of what we needed but we went and got the absolute best in the competition.

Shai is not the absolute best small forward imo. Pickett, Stengle, Green all on par if not better. He is in the top tier though amongst others and he is more of a mid forward, he gets a lot of clearances even since the early days.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Shai is not the absolute best small forward imo. Pickett, Stengle, Green all on par if not better. He is in the top tier though amongst others and he is more of a mid forward, he gets a lot of clearances even since the early days.

A mid forward at Richmond, sure. With us it will be weighted the other way.

 

[theGav56]

Shai is not the absolute best small forward imo. Pickett, Stengle, Green all on par if not better. He is in the top tier though amongst others and he is more of a mid forward, he gets a lot of clearances even since the early days.

A pure small forward kicks goals with a second string pressuring the opposition.

Bolton does both but he has a third string as a creative midfield extractor.

End result is Bolton on his own maybe doesn't win us a premiership (it is a team sport), but he can enable the team to win one.

 

[Hamann188]

Shai is not the absolute best small forward imo. Pickett, Stengle, Green all on par if not better. He is in the top tier though amongst others and he is more of a mid forward, he gets a lot of clearances even since the early days.

Were any of those guys available this year?

 

[oldgoat]

Shai is not the absolute best small forward imo. Pickett, Stengle, Green all on par if not better. He is in the top tier though amongst others and he is more of a mid forward, he gets a lot of clearances even since the early days.

He gets a place on the very short list...
And we can never know until their careers are over who was best...
And even then well never agree!
How about, "arguably", The absolute best small forward in the competition!
By the bye, the rest of the short list were not available, to us, this year, if ever .

 

[Dockeroo]

Shai is not the absolute best small forward imo. Pickett, Stengle, Green all on par if not better. He is in the top tier though amongst others and he is more of a mid forward, he gets a lot of clearances even since the early days.

I know it’s heresy to say it around here but I would have Bolton well ahead of Pickett as a player. I would also say that stengle is at a different level to Pickett.
They are all fine players no question, but the others are already AA players.
Bolton is an all round better player than Pickett, while stengle is a classier pure small forward and kicks more goals and less behinds. Toby Greene is also a much superior player to kozzie though his best is probably now behind him.

Dont get me wrong I think Pickett is a very good player, but I doubt he ever makes an AA team in his career. He burns a lot of shots on goal - in particular I recall some horrendous finishing and execution of shots late in that classic qualifying final last season v Collingwood at the G that the dees narrowly lost but should really have won.

I’d gladly take him at freo but I think pick 10 or 11 alone, would be more than enough to pay in draft capital.
Two firsts would be a significant overpay in my view.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

I disagree with you mate. To use a war analogy, we could have procured a really fine rifle to add to our fine army but we went for a cannon to join our fine army to win the war.
We were one quality forward short of what we needed but we went and got the absolute best in the competition.

Bolton is great and I'm pumped we have him but my point was if nothing changes from this season and we produce similar performance but with Bolton in the team we won't go far. Need improvement across the board to win that stupid cup.

But if we get that with Bolton added to the mix doing things no one else on the list can do. Well then the sky is the limit and we are as good a shout as anyone.

 

[Mags98]

I know it’s heresy to say it around here but I would have Bolton well ahead of Pickett as a player. I would also say that stengle is at a different level to Pickett.
They are all fine players no question, but the others are already AA players.
Bolton is an all round better player than Pickett, while stengle is a classier pure small forward and kicks more goals and less behinds. Toby Greene is also a much superior player to kozzie though his best is probably now behind him.

Dont get me wrong I think Pickett is a very good player, but I doubt he ever makes an AA team in his career. He burns a lot of shots on goal - in particular I recall some horrendous finishing and execution of shots late in that classic qualifying final last season v Collingwood at the G that the dees narrowly lost but should really have won.

I’d gladly take him at freo but I think pick 10 or 11 alone, would be more than enough to pay in draft capital.
Two firsts would be a significant overpay in my view.

kozzie gets awfully stitched up with the quality of ball coming into the dees forward 50 compared to those other blokes as well as having very little KPP support for him down there

 

[Alfonz]

I know it’s heresy to say it around here but I would have Bolton well ahead of Pickett as a player. I would also say that stengle is at a different level to Pickett.
They are all fine players no question, but the others are already AA players.
Bolton is an all round better player than Pickett, while stengle is a classier pure small forward and kicks more goals and less behinds. Toby Greene is also a much superior player to kozzie though his best is probably now behind him.

Dont get me wrong I think Pickett is a very good player, but I doubt he ever makes an AA team in his career. He burns a lot of shots on goal - in particular I recall some horrendous finishing and execution of shots late in that classic qualifying final last season v Collingwood at the G that the dees narrowly lost but should really have won.

I’d gladly take him at freo but I think pick 10 or 11 alone, would be more than enough to pay in draft capital.
Two firsts would be a significant overpay in my view.

I agree that Bolton is ahead of Pickett. But also remember Bolton is older and only really went bang in his 6th year. Pickett is approaching his 6th year in 2025. Stengle hit his AA form in his 6th year after being drafted (albeit a couple of missing years). I forgot Richmond actually picked him in the same year as Bolton. They had the small forwards nailed that year. Charlie Cameron also took off in his 6th year and never looked back.

Pickett has adjusted to AFL level much quicker than the above players, so their careers aren't really tracking each other in their first 5 years, but I would still think there is definite scope for Pickett to elevate to AA level on par with the best seasons we've seen from Cameron/Stengle. Especially if he is able to play alongside Treacy, Jackson, Amiss, Bolton.

 

[serial_thrilla]

Emmett on thin ice here.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Emmett on thin ice here.

While I'd prefer Narkle to Emmett as depth, nothing would convince me this is anything but a Bolton and potentially Pickett stable pony

 

[yakamoto]

Not excited at prospective addition of Narkle. Pressure forward?

 

[DragoDelph]

He meant south Fremantle. Right?

 

[MadMundy]

**** it, we need small forward depth, Narkle would be a solid pickup if he costs nothing. I wanted him to come across with Clark years ago, better late than never.

Even if he barely plays, depth is better than no depth.

 

[s_wd6]

what does Narkle even do. was awful in finals.

 

[Docker82]

While I'd prefer Narkle to Emmett as depth, nothing would convince me this is anything but a Bolton and potentially Pickett stable pony

I’d rather us keep the list spot open completely than give Narkle a contract. He’s the worst player I’ve seen play a final.

Don’t know what you’ve seen to think he offers more than Emmett. Then you could throw in the age gap as well which only adds to the level of stupidity it’d be picking him up.

 

[s_wd6]

While I'd prefer Narkle to Emmett as depth, nothing would convince me this is anything but a Bolton and potentially Pickett stable pony

Emmett is genuinely better depth than Narkle at this point

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I’d rather us keep the list spot open completely than give Narkle a contract. He’s the worst player I’ve seen play a final.

Don’t know what you’ve seen to think he offers more than Emmett. Then you could throw in the age gap as well which only adds to the level of stupidity it’d be picking him up.

I just dont think Emmett will ever be at AFL level with his disposal and decision making, yet alone AFL final level. The age is 3 years of like 23 to 26, hardly relevant.

I would prefer the list spot to both but I dont think they plan on taking 4 in the draft and value the experience as much as anything

 

[FreoBraddles]

If anything, keep a list spot open.
Invite him to train in pre season, against a few others.
Decide in Feb who, if anyone, gets the spot.

If he earns it, he earns it. Otherwise, no thanks