List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[Train12]

Good to see the club will try to put itself first and expect these to be what they should be. Salary dumps.

If we nail our draft picks this year, possibly somehow trading a further pick in this year’s draft (top 20ish), exciting times ahead.

 

[gubby88]

We're not swapping F2 for their F3 for Soldo, that would be stupidity. For all we know our F2 next year could be like pick 20.

this...

just because Port stuffed him around then played sweet ahead of him, has nothing to do with what they paid for him

 

[stavro#4]

If we nail our draft picks this year, possibly somehow trading a further pick in this year’s draft (top 20ish), exciting times ahead.

Suns @ 12 or Giants @ 14 are the ones we are looking at.

 

[The Boar]

Suns @ 12 or Giants @ 14 are the ones we are looking at.

What would we trade for them?

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[Train12]

Suns @ 12 or Giants @ 14 are the ones we are looking at.

I’d trade our future first for one of those. Yes it’s a risk - but this top 20 is apparently that strong
To have 4/5/6 draftees coming through together next year, along with what we already have - nail a free agent end of next year. It really sets us up.

 

[Holy Hunter Clark]

If there's anyone who thinks Sharman isn't best 22, can I have some of what they're on? btw he was best 22 before this season, even more cemented in now.

@Cairnsman

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[Remboy]

What would we trade for them?

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King.

 

[stavro#4]

What would we trade for them?

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future first.

 

[joydivision22]

But I thought that “24 will definelty be involved for McIlroy”

 

[Sainter88]

But I thought that “24 will definelty be involved for McIlroy”

Where’s pencil dick when you need him?

 

[joydivision22]

Where’s pencil dick when you need him?

Popped his head up for a second to have it blown off lol

 

[St Neil]

Ivan Soldo’s trade request to Victoria

“I’m not sure it’ll be straightforward. Ivan understands that the deal has to be right for the club if he was to go out. He’s certainly suggested to us that he would like to get back to Victoria. But whether that can happen or not and what the deal is worth ... I don’t want to over commit to something right now that when there’s just so much of a trade period to play out. And ultimately, even though the Soldo deal may be us and just one other club, they’re also linked that it would be premature for me to talk about what we’re looking for there.”

Posturing.

Embarrassing.

 

[Premium]

We're not swapping F2 for their F3 for Soldo, that would be stupidity. For all we know our F2 next year could be like pick 20.

If we are looking for a 2nd ruck surely they can find someone better.
Fremantle are stacked with young rucks - and have 2 with no contract (Knobel , Jones) and Reidy has a yr left.

 

[St Neil]

St Kilda is unwilling to part with its No. 43 draft pick for Jackson Macrae

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Jackson Macrae

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

13.1

5star

HB

14.8

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

D

24.4

5star

K

10.9

4star

HB

13.5

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

4.1

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

1.8

4star

, hopeful of securing the triple All Australian with a backend pick.


St Kilda is prepared to absorb the huge salary he is owed in the next three years - which is above $800,000 in the next two seasons.


Macrae and his management are prepared to drive a hard bargain on a trade as he moves to St Kilda, which is desperate to keep picks seven, 24 and 43 plus a Josh Battle

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Josh Battle

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

compensation pick.


They will offer a third or fourth-round pick for Macrae, the player of the 2021 finals series.

They will likely offer a mid-draft future pick for Ivan Soldo

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Ivan Soldo

Age

28

Ht

204cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

24.2

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

3.1

1star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

23.0

5star

D

6.4

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

21.4

5star

, and could end up trading their future second pick with the Power’s future third pick.
The Power paid the world for Soldo when he left Richmond.

But the trade value of mid-tier rucks is usually about pick 40-50 and he is due around $500,000 for each of the next two seasons, so they would let him go given Dante Visentini is a solid back-up.

What does it mean when it says “Macrae and his management are prepared to drive a hard bargain on a trade….”?

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

I understand Port posturing, Soldo's not even been there a year and asked for a trade home.

Surprised the Dogs are though. Surely they make this easy on a club legend?

 

[Train12]

What does it mean when it says “Macrae and his management are prepared to drive a hard bargain on a trade….”?

I understand it as ‘we don’t want to come back to the dogs, make this trade happen’

 

[Coconut_twirl]

Surely 43 and our future 3rd and below can get soldo and macrae across

If not, walk away. It’s not compulsory to get these players if the cost is too high, even though they would be handy additions that both fill a need. Need to hit this draft.

 

[Sully111]

St Kilda is unwilling to part with its No. 43 draft pick for Jackson Macrae, hopeful of securing the triple All Australian with a back-end pick.
St Kilda is prepared to absorb the huge salary he is owed in the next three years – which is above $800,000 in the next two seasons.

Macrae and his management are prepared to drive a hard bargain on a trade as he moves to St Kilda, which is desperate to keep picks seven, 24 and 43 plus a Josh Battle compensation pick.

They will offer a third or fourth-round pick for Macrae, the player of the 2021 finals series.

They will likely offer a mid-draft future pick for Ivan Soldo, and could end up trading their future second pick with the Power’s future third pick.

The Power paid the world for Soldo when he left Richmond.

But the trade value of mid-tier rucks is usually about pick 40-50 and he is due around $500,000 for each of the next two seasons, so they would let him go given Dante Visentini is a solid back-up.

The Power will secure Gold Coast’s Jack Lukosius on a deal rival contender Adelaide believes is seven years at $1 million a season.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-buzz-saints-to-play-hardball-over-jack-macrae-fremantle-unveil-plans-for-shai-bolton-liam-baker/news-story/3abcdef23a7194c0b0d67491c536082c

Many thanks to BrutThough for bringing us this development in a timely manner.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

We're not swapping F2 for their F3 for Soldo, that would be stupidity. For all we know our F2 next year could be like pick 20.

Hope you’re right

 

[gubby88]

What does it mean when it says “Macrae and his management are prepared to drive a hard bargain on a trade….”?

i dont get the Macrae bit...why would he drive a hard bargain after saying he wants a trade to the saints???

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Suns @ 12 or Giants @ 14 are the ones we are looking at.

Unfortunately if we cough up a later future pick we can’t use our future first. Do we have some kind of trade capital - pushing someone out? Is there any chance Membrey can still get us the lowest FA compo - is it end 2nd or end 3rd?

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I understand it as ‘we don’t want to come back to the dogs, make this trade happen’

Yeah, he wants out so no desire to help the Dogs get a better deal?

 

[St Neil]

i dont get the Macrae bit...why would he drive a hard bargain after saying he wants a trade to the saints???

It is ambiguous.

Does it mean he won’t leave the Bulldogs without them receiving decent compensation?

Does it mean he won’t sacrifice his salary in any trade?

Does it mean he won’t help the Bulldogs and won’t relent in not wanting to go back?

I’m not sure. Poorly written.

 

[St Neil]

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If not, walk away. It’s not compulsory to get these players if the cost is too high, even though they would be handy additions that both fill a need. Need to hit this draft.

Correct.

 

[joydivision22]

It is ambiguous.

Does it mean he won’t leave the Bulldogs without them receiving decent compensation?

Does it mean he won’t sacrifice his salary in any trade?

Does it mean he won’t help the Bulldogs and won’t relent in not wanting to go back?

I’m not sure. Poorly written.

I don’t think old ralphy’s too sure either