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Being heavier doesn't make you stronger , Max has no core strength at all hence why he gets pushed aside easily , 8 years is madness IMO as we will only end up getting 5 years worth at most due to him breaking down in one way or another
I think Daniher is a gun. So yes please. More King.Scarily similar - so the only question is whether Max can keep it going for another 6 to 8 years.
Joe Daniher and Max King AFL Stats Comparison
Joe Daniher and Max King AFL Stats Comparison.www.footywire.com
Joe, Max, Joe, Max - almost interchangeable!!
From the Pocket: Joe Daniher repays Brisbane’s faith on the biggest stages as ‘the sickness and the cure’
The enigmatic Lions forward can dazzle and disappoint in the same passage of play but saves his best for crunch moments and matcheswww.theguardian.com
At face value, Joe Daniher is straight off the footballing peg. He’s 201cm, an excellent mark, a thumping kick and moves like a gazelle. If he was a yearling at the sales, they’d have taken one look at his bloodlines and his physical scope, and paid record prices for him.
But in the space of a game, in the space of a quarter, sometimes in the same passage of play, he’ll veer from the sublime to the farcical; from the totally inept to eye-poppingly good. Sometimes he’ll dominate a game from the opening whistle. Sometimes he’ll barely be present. Sometimes he’ll drift in and out of a game, like a cat hopping on a lap.
The football world has never quite known what to make of him. There’s a cottage industry of former champion forwards in the media who have always marked him harshly. He doesn’t fit the bill. He’s too casual. He doesn’t seem to care enough. And he doesn’t give them anything.
What makes him all the more frustrating and inscrutable is that he always exudes the same body language – whether he’s thwacking a goal from the boundary line or kicking sideways from the top of the goal square. Win or lose, big haul or bagel, he’ll chew his gum, shrug his shoulders, decline the interview and drive the two or so hours back to his home in the Byron Bay hinterland.
Only a certain type of coach could handle a player like that. “You need to say to someone like him, ‘Joe. We’ll wear your odd mistake,’” Leigh Matthews said on Footy Furnace several weeks ago. “‘You’ll make a bad decision every now and then.’ Because he’s an instinctive player. I heard people critiquing the coach saying, ‘he hasn’t been coached hard enough.’ But if Joe gets scared of making mistakes, and if we keep talking about what he’s not good at, he’ll lose confidence in himself.”
Matthews was always someone who could adapt his coaching to different personalities. He knew which players would respond to a bake, and which ones would capitulate. And he knew which players had to rigidly adhere to his systems and structures, and which ones had to be left to play on instinct.
At both Collingwood and Brisbane, he was also fiercely loyal to players who had performed for him in finals. That’s where Daniher has always excelled and where he’s earned his own coach Chris Fagan’s trust and forgiveness. Even at Essendon, he saved his best for the Anzac Day and Dreamtime at the ’G matches. For Brisbane, he scrambled the winning goal in the 2022 elimination final, was their best player in last year’s qualifying final, booted two crucial goals when the preliminary final was up for grabs and had the better of the All-Australian captain in the 2023 grand final.
The full gamut was on display in the semi-final against GWS Giants on Saturday night – the early miss, the wraparound handball from a Josh Dunkley set shot that he sent sailing out on the full, the field kick halfway through the final term where he U-turned and kicked it straight to his direct opponent. His coach chewed his gum a little more furiously, presumably thinking, “I could be at home with my grandkids building cubby houses rather than dealing with this bullshit, Joe.”
But in the madness of those final minutes, Daniher was the one who kept his cool. He found himself in the gutter, on the wrong side for a left-footer. When golfers hit a draw, they close their clubface more than usual and Daniher’s set shot, on a squally nigh, was the perfect draw. A few minutes later, he got separation from one of the best defenders in the game, Sam Taylor, and launched himself sideways. A month earlier against Collingwood, his tardy kicking arguably cost them the double chance. Now he’d put the Lions into a preliminary final.
Normally he projects a laconic air. But there he was, pumping his fists, screaming at his teammates. Then, in a rare interview, with players and spectators surely unable to process what had just happened, he was the only one making a syllable of sense. Just when you’ve given up on him, just when you think you’re out, he pulls you back in. Dwayne Russell, a considerably more excitable individual, called him “the sickness and the cure”.
Such is the Joe Daniher experience.
Are you sure Max wants the Big Pressure of this contract , he looked like he wanted to cry at times this year , i can only imagine the years to come , 4 years would have been plenty
100% , Or he thinks I sign this long term deal , easy money and I'm secure instead of signing for another 2-3 , kicking ass and getting a massive 5 year deal
Then why does max take far more contested marks than Joe? Or are we just making unfounded statements
Facts don't fit the narrative, so conveniently ignore them.
Don’t get me started on the over used of literally. It feels like literally every English person does it and my head literally explodes with anger because they do it literally 24 hours a day.
Didn’t Ben King get close to or over a million a year at GC a couple of years back? I’m sure the AFL are chipping in with “ambassador” payments, but even so, it shows what others are willing to pay if they get the chance. We don’t want to let them get the chance.
Surely it’s riddled with performance measures.
I wasn't directly saying that Joe is a better mark than Max , I was just saying that Max has poor body strength , Id be betting 95% of Max's contested marks are when he fly's for the mark , not by out bodying someone
I'd have no issue with Kennedy if we hadn't already committed to getting Macrae in the door.
Egos are the best part of key forwards.
Recently it's commentators saying "marking the ball at its highest point" that's been driving me a bit batty.
We have speed all over the ground.
I think he’s definitely a decent footballer.
He's had a Knee & shoulder reconstruction. He's having ongoing issues with both. It's clear that he's lost confidence in his body..What if he was shifted to the wing. Another player with similiar talent & attributes was shifted to the wing to devastating effect for his team in 2008..This player was aged 33 at the time & when shifted to the wing in Rd4 he came alive & so did his team. Was runner up in the Brownlow that yr & improved his team dynamics dramatically.. https://www.afl.com.au/.../richos-move-had-to-happen-wallace https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/777643/richos-move-makes-forwards-stand-tall
