USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Satan]

Yes and it was live, not pre-recorded.

And on cue did a personal attack on Collins
Former President Donald Trump called CNN moderator Kaitlan Collins a “nasty person” at the end of the network’s town hall with the ex-president on Wednesday—

He hates women not from Faux

Trump Predictably Lashes Out at CNN and Dana Bash Over Harris Interview

During a Friday evening rally in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, Trump attacked Harris and Walz saved plenty of scorn for CNN anchor Dana Bash.

www.mediaite.com

November 10, 2018 at 9:22 a.m. Melbourne Time
President Trump has made no secret of his contempt for reporters, whom he calls “fake news” and “enemy of the American people.” He’s also had unkind things to say about women and people who are African American.
This week, he hit a trifecta, singling out three African American women who are journalists. The women — Abby Phillip, April Ryan and Yamiche Alcindor — earned his contempt apparently just for asking him questions.
Trump called one of Phillip’s questions “stupid,” described Ryan as “a loser” and brushed off Alcindor, saying her question was “racist.”

 

[Happy Mastenator]

How can you read that wrong?

You do realise that Trump has done a Town Hall with CNN's Kaitlin Collins.

Are you seriously talking about the town hall he did prior to the GOP primaries, back in May 2023? That's what you're leaning on?

There's dumpster fires, and whatever this was

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/transcript-cnn-town-hall-trump/index.html

 

[NSWCROW]

Literally everyone this past fortnight: " the trump campaign is FLAILING "

fox: " It totally hasn't got under our skin or anything.... "

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Literally everyone this past fortnight: " the trump campaign is FLAILING "

fox: " It totally hasn't got under our skin or anything.... "

 

[Satan]

Literally everyone this past fortnight: " the trump campaign is FLAILING "

fox: " It totally hasn't got under our skin or anything.... "

Trump Loses It After Top Volunteer Exposes Sorry State of Campaign

A damning report reveals some staffers on Donald Trump’s campaign no longer think New Hampshire is winnable.

newrepublic.com

 

[Dazzler9]

The Dow Jones fell 1.5% overnight. Harris is obviously a strong favourite for the White House now

 

[NSWCROW]

FLAILING

 

[Happy Mastenator]

FLAILING

Doocy’s dad was a moron on Fox News. Through merit doocy jr got a job at Fox News where he has proudly displayed he’s a bigger moron than his father.

 

[NSWCROW]

Doocy’s dad is a moron on Fox News. Through merit doocy jr got a job at Fox News where he has proudly displayed he’s a bigger moron than his father.

Fixed

 

[Blue1980]

US democracy is collapsing.
What do Trump and Harris each represent?
Harris:

• escalation of war, in the Middle East and in Ukraine.
• $20 billion in additional funding to reinforce the border, keep out asylum seekers and thereby foment racism and xenophobia.
• "Opportunity economy" - ie. opportunity for Wall Street billionaires to amass even more profits
• Spending cuts - she is lying when she claims that her administration would make token additional spending for social services. If she is elected she will renege on any such promises immediately. The US cannot afford the costs of constant nuclear rearmament and supplying weaponry to Zelensky and Netahayu, while at the same time spending on the needs of the working people. We all know what will be sacrificed.
• Wage suppression/real wage cuts. The Biden administration, in collaboration with the AFL-CIO union bureaucracy, have been imposing real wage cuts across his entire term, the most recent example being the intervention of the government to illegalise the railway workers strike, and impose on them a contract which leaves wages below inflation and conditions of exploitation at the same horrific levels.

Trump:

• immediate deportation of 20 million immigrants. Such measures would require the installation of a military dictatorship.
• Fomenting of extreme xenophobia against all immigrants, in the same manner as Hitler.
• Massive social spending cuts to syphon more wealth to the corporate billionaires
• Mobilisation of paramilitary fascists to suppress any protests by workers against low wages and exploitation.
• Immediate preparations for war against China, which Trump and his backers regard as the existential threat to the interests of corporate America.

This is the choice that American voters face
If Trump wins, an immediate move to instal a dictatorship.
If Harris wins, expect Trump to challenge through another coup attempt, more dangerous than the first, because he has already had the experience and presumably drawn some lessons.
Even if Trump fails in a second coup attempt, a Harris administration will, by the logic of its policies, head towards expanding war (along with the threat of a nuclear armageddon) and increasingly dictatorial methods to deal with opposition.

Largely accurate with a few caveats:

• Escalation of war in the Middle East regardless of who is in power is on the cards.
• Ukraine, donny may just give Russia whatever they want, not sure that is any better.

All of your negatives for the dems also apply to the GOP but more so. You are selecting between a centre-right party (with some good people who are more left) and a far-right party (with a handful of never Trumpers), essentially.

In terms of dictatorial measures to deal with opposition the dems would use, I don't see that happening. All they need to do is clamp down on the voter suppression the GOP get up to and encourage free and fair elections, and they win (or the only way the GOP can win is by being more palatable to the average voter)

 

[Blue1980]

How can you read that wrong?

You do realise that Trump has done a Town Hall with CNN's Kaitlin Collins.

Yep, that was all on Trump's terms and was seen as such a fluff propaganda piece for him that Chris Licht ended up resigning not long after.

 

[Blue1980]

FLAILING

I wonder which alias Doocey uses here?

 

[carltonchelsea]

This is more hope than reality I think.

re: bolded - 46% of votes went to Trump. Big 'cult'

re: bolded 2 - is why she needs to not use buzz words and talk in circles as she does. That's not getting people off the sofa to vote

She could just be honest and say “since the Second World War, 51 million jobs have been created, 50 million of those have been during Democrat Presidency’s”.
Straight to point!

 

[Randomizor]

Goldman Sachs predicts stronger GDP and job growth if Democrats sweep White House and Congress

Trump’s likely tariff hikes on China, the EU and Mexico would lead to an inflationary bump, with a peak impact of 30 to 40 basis points on the Federal Reserve’s preferred price gauge, the bank’s economists wrote.

fortune.com

I suppose this makes Goldman Sachs radical leftists now?

 

[carltonchelsea]

He’s a ****ing moran!

 

[carltonchelsea]

FLAILING

Look at the halfwit, he’s just itching to say the n-word isn’t he?

 

[FireKrakouer]

Endorsement update: If you guys absolutely must know, I remain undecided... the data processing continues. Am currently leaning 60/40 towards Kamala but let's wait for the first debate.

 

[Blue1980]

Endorsement update: If you guys absolutely must know, I remain undecided... the data processing continues. Am currently leaning 60/40 towards Kamala but let's wait for the first debate.

How about the 3rd party candidates?

 

[carltonchelsea]

Endorsement update: If you guys absolutely must know, I remain undecided... the data processing continues. Am currently leaning 60/40 towards Kamala but let's wait for the first debate.

Just remember, there are two types of trump supporters, billionaires and idiots, what does your bank account say bud?

 

[FireKrakouer]

How about the 3rd party candidates?

What, you think I'm just gonna throw my endorsement away as if it's meaningless!?

Just remember, there are two types of trump supporters, billionaires and idiots, what does your bank account say bud?

checks account
Okay I'm sitting at about negative $4k. Even though I earn an impressive wage (in the high 5 digits) - rent ain't cheap!

 

[magpie_marty]

Derision and danger: The Democrats figure out how to attack Trump

Will Kamala Harris take this stance in the debate?

www.motherjones.com

Like most bullies, Trump cannot bear humiliation. His whole act is an act. He pretends to be strong and the best in everything—with the “best words” that come from a “very, very large brain.” But his malignant narcissism is clearly interlaced with deep insecurity. Real stable geniuses don’t have to brag about being stable geniuses. Trump might best be attacked not with frontal assaults about his lies, shortcomings, and misdeeds but with mockery.

 

[carltonchelsea]

What, you think I'm just gonna throw my endorsement away as if it's meaningless!?

checks account
Okay I'm sitting at about negative $4k. Even though I earn an impressive wage (in the high 5 digits) - rent ain't cheap!

Neither are rates!
But somebody has to pay them!

 

[magpie_marty]

Endorsement update: If you guys absolutely must know, I remain undecided... the data processing continues. Am currently leaning 60/40 towards Kamala but let's wait for the first debate.

Can you vote in the US 2024 election m8?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Not get into a mud slinging match
No political spin, answer questions without buzz words or going around in circles.
Give examples in answers and divulge actual policy/goals/KPI's

Same goes for Trump but he'll fail at point 1 (Kamala may get dragged into point 1 but absolutely fails at point 2 if she doesn't)

There won't be a 'winner'

So there is no realistic chance then as trump will just spin shit which is illogical and therefore cannot be debated against.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Can you vote in the US 2024 election m8?

I sure can - on the condition that I can secure a GF ticket for Chicago1 to exchange for his vote... might have to tell my wealthy boomer father that the kids need ear medicine again, scrounge up a lil moolah.

But it's not my vote that is important, it's about the enormous number of people influenced by my opinion. I get so many PMs asking about my endorsement that it's sick m8.