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Snuffaluphagus
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List Mgmt. 2024 Young Talent Time (Drafting)
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It's pretty rich for a club that's been around for over a century to be moaning about this stuff. Maybe instead of crying poor, Bassett should have a chat to his bevy of 100-game ex Saints players and ask them to procreate more.
The only clubs that are really disadvantaged are the expansion clubs (including us) that came in after the AFL was formed.
To be fair he just asked that they pay a fair price. The Afl didn't make the changes this year, but were happy to do so when we would have had Jesse available to us. They didn't make the change because the people with the most to gain, asked them not to.
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That's why if you remove the rule you do it progressively. Clubs that have been advantaged lose it first, then once that's done then that haven't had the same advantage lose it once they have received a similar level of advantage.
Alternatively you lower the thresholds for clubs that have't had the advantage until they catch up.
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That's entirely reasonable, taking a snap shot of club benefit for the last fifteen years and balance it out over the next twenty.
But the AFL can't wait even three years before messing with their system that is intended to cycle the clubs through the ladder every 18 years...
So I think as little tweaking as possible is best.
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Marc McGowan from the age did a really good top 30 today "after discussions with recruiters or list bosses at 12 of the 18 clubs". It has some good industry info on expected draft ranges and what clubs queries are on some players etc.
They believe Richmond are weighing up Sam Lalor or Finn O’Sullivan at No.1. Doesn't seem good for Essendon as Kako is considered a top 10 lock and Melbourne strongly considering him
They believe Richmond are weighing up Sam Lalor or Finn O’Sullivan at No.1. Doesn't seem good for Essendon as Kako is considered a top 10 lock and Melbourne strongly considering him
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Melbourne might bid on Kako out of spite for missing on Mac Andrew a few years back lol
If anyone wants to have a read
Things I found interesting. A lot of players rising or falling a fair bit.
3. Alix Tauru
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Tall defender, 191cm, 16/11/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 14.5 disposals, 3.7 intercept marks, 7.3 intercept possessions
The Age’s August top 30: 19
What a rise for Tauru, from virtual unknown in the pre-season to potential top-three pick, if defender-needy North Melbourne take the leap, as some think they might. Recruiters are enamoured with the courage he shows flying for marks, his athleticism, aggression and instinctual play, and his upside. Tauru is most highly rated as an intercept defender, but also played up forward and as a defensive midfielder. There is risk involved in picking Tauru, with his most common draft range seen as 5-12, with several recruiters rating him as an ideal selection for clubs with multiple first-round picks. This would be the ultimate swing-for-the-fence selection.
6. Isaac Kako
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Forward, 175cm, 7/3/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 18.7 disposals, 1.7 goals, 7.7 score involvements
The Age’s August top 30: 12
Essendon may need to match a high opposition bid on their NGA prospect, with Melbourne strongly considering the dangerous small forward – or are they playing games with the Bombers? Either way, Kako, whose parents were born in Iraq, is considered a top-10 lock after a brilliant national under-18 championships. There should be no hesitation taking a sub-180cm goalsneak with Kako’s ability this high after Nick Watson’s impressive debut season. Kako is powerful, and has a knack for creating scoring opportunities and kicking audacious goals from seemingly hopeless situations. He can improve defensively, but can impact the game beyond the forward 50.
9. Leo Lombard
GC Suns Academy/Allies
Midfielder, 178cm, 5/10/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 24.7 disposals, 13 contested possessions, 5.7 clearances
The Age’s August top 30: 14
If St Kilda president Andrew Bassat’s criticism of the draft system was any gauge, the Saints might be the club to place a bid on Lombard. That is certainly the tip in recruiting ranks. Lombard, who shared the Larke Medal at the championships with Langford after an outstanding carnival, buzzes around stoppages and his power and ball-winning talents are sure to be a great addition to the Suns’ midfield. He is often compared to fellow Gold Coast academy product Jake Rogers, the No.14 pick last year. The knock on Lombard – who played in the Suns’ 2023 VFL premiership as a 16-year-old – is that he could be tidier with his disposals, but he is a contested beast.
10. Sid Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia
Midfielder, 180cm, 5/7/2006
SANFL seniors stats (avg): 22.2 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 6.2 tackles
The Age’s August top 30: 6
There are Draper admirers higher than this, including West Coast, so the dual under-18 All-Australian may be snapped up long before this. A shin stress injury put him on the back foot from the start this year, but his renowned work ethic helped him make it back in time to compete at the championships. Draper boasts good midfield craft and ball-winning ability, as well as the power to burst out of stoppages. He finished the season well at SANFL senior level, which was another tick for his top-10 candidacy. However, Draper’s kicking skills and decision-making are considered a tad below some of the best midfielders in this crop.
15. Joe Berry
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Forward, 180cm, 18/4/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 14.4 disposals, 1.9 goals, 6.7 score involvements
The Age’s August top 30: 16
Berry is going to make one club very happy. This pick will likely be in West Coast’s hands as part of the Tom Barrass trade to Hawthorn. The Bushie enjoyed an excellent under-18 championships and was a regular goalkicker in the Talent League and for Vic Country. Berry’s speed, endurance and agility not only make him ideal for a high half-forward role in the AFL, but many recruiters believe he could also graduate to, or spend time on, a wing. He uses his running ability to good effect, often working back into defence to offer his support. Berry’s sharp left-footed kicking skills round out an impressive package.
19. Bo Allan
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
Defender/midfielder, 191cm, 16/2/2006
WAFL seniors stats (avg): 11.5 disposals, 3.9 contested possessions, 3.3 tackles
The Age’s August top 30: 9
Allan was considered a likely top-10 pick but has slid down some clubs’ draft order while spending the second half of the season playing against senior competition. There are recruiters who still rank him inside the top 15, raving about his athleticism, power, speed and leadership. Allan has also proven he can perform a lockdown role. Of greatest consequence to his draft standing is what talent scouts project him to be at AFL level, which could dictate where he is drafted. Some believe WA’s top prospect can develop into a big-bodied midfielder, whereas others think he will remain mostly at half-back or as a third tall. There is also a query on his kicking.
20. Ollie Hannaford
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Forward, 180cm, 1/9/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 16.7 disposals, 9.5 contested possessions, 1.2 goals
The Age’s August top 30: N/A
Tauru might be the draft’s biggest bolter, but Hannaford improved his draft stock as much as anyone in the final two months of the season. He did not earn a national combine call-up despite his stellar finish, but will still test at the Victorian equivalent. Hannaford’s mid-season switch to the forward line changed the trajectory of his career, with his competitiveness, strength, burst off the mark and goalkicking nous propelling him up draft boards. He kicked 21 goals – including bags of six and five – in his last nine games, as well as recording 16 forward-50 tackles in that period. Hannaford can also provide some impactful midfield minutes.
30. Christian Moraes
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Midfielder, 183cm, 8/11/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23.8 disposals, 4.1 clearances, 1.5 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 18
Could Moraes be the Ashton Moir of this year’s draft? He was once considered a top-10 selection and there are recruiters still enamoured with his level of talent, but the season did not pan out as he might have hoped. The club willing to punt on Moraes’ upside could be richly rewarded, with his role at AFL level likely to be as a winger and high half-forward. He does his best work when the Sherrin is in his hands, and he is considered the top runner in this class. He holds off the likes of Noah Mraz, Thomas Sims and Hamish Davis to be in this slot.
Hannaford I expected before itself he is not going to last till 20s. X factor players like him Lohmann and pickett rise in the month before draft where as "statistics" players with some questions marks slide a bit in the last month?
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This is music to my ears.
Melbourne wanting Kako because Pickett has left, perhaps?
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Kako is NGA, Essendon will get him cheap.
Our F/S program is no good as well. Pav is 42 now. There should be hundreds of Pav Jnr.s available by now...
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He has two sons and one daughter, all three are under ten. Old enough to get the set shot routine down pat me thinks.
Oh I know that.
What got me excited was the idea that Melbourne wanted a small forward, with the implication being that they have traded Pickett
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It really is a very solid looking draft, normally by pick 30 the numbers really start to fall away but not this bunch. I think there will be 10 players go in the actual top 30 not in that list.
I think people are over thinking it with Jagga Smith, the trap of being too good for too long so people start to look for weaknesses. Looks like Caleb Serong mark 2. 7.9 clearances a game, maybe he won't be the bloke putting it inside your 50 but your team are going to have the ball a lot.
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We take a break from the Futures game to take a look at a kid that was bafflingly overlooked for it. Swadling is up there with Rodriguez as my two early favourites from the 2025 WA crop. He shares a lot of similarities with Zane Duursma as a medium sized forward who impacts in the air and on the ground with a ton of class, able to create moments of magic with the footy.
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25. HARRISON OLIVER
Position: Medium defender
Size: 181cm
Clubs: Sandringham Dragons/St Bedes-Mentone
There’s a lot to like about this composed defender, who could be in the first-round mix due to decision-making and pinpoint distribution by foot. Oliver made the All-Australian team after averaging 16.2 disposals and going at 82 per cent efficiency by foot for Vic Metro. He can break the lines with his run, carry and kicking, while he also goes hard at the ball.
Sounds good.
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