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There’s every chance Matthew Clarke live trades all of Hawthorn’s future picks to go all in on Richmond’s 5th rounder this year so we may as well death ride the Hawks whilst we still can.
Oppo Camp 2025 Hawks Death Ride
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I dont think they improve on this year. A wave of momentum and confidence got them to 6th, with a reset in the off-season and potentially some more injuries to key personnel they could easily miss the finals.
They would have to be pretty fortunate to go one better next year imo.
They would have to be pretty fortunate to go one better next year imo.
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I think their season was built on a good system rather than elite talent and opposition coaches will go to work on it. I see them sliding slightly but the addition of Barrass and Battle and what that means for Sicily and Weddle should not be underestimated.
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So current 2025 draft hand is
2, 9, 20, 27, 38, 45
Which is pretty handy
The ladder always starts the season alphabetical.
2, 9, 20, 27, 38, 45
Which is pretty handy
The ladder always starts the season alphabetical.
Yeah when I said a reset in the off-season I meant for all clubs(I know I didnt make it obvious).
Hawks have very little structure in front of the ball with very average/young KPFs, and what I consider to be a shallow midfield; if they dont have Duke or Day they struggle in there.
I am interested to see what Weddle does next year, hes basically Ginbey but hes comfortable playing an outside attacking role. Hopefully Ginbey can do something similar next year off half back.
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They'll finish dead last, we'll piss ourselves laughing and all laude Clarke as a genius.
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He was told to leave the room when that decision was made.
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Fine - We'll a laude Phil....That tickle your bits EV?
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I'm in the camp that would have preferred Carlton's picks, but we'll see.
I think Hawks will be right there at the end of September. Obviously praying that I'm wrong!
I think Hawks will be right there at the end of September. Obviously praying that I'm wrong!
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Don't make me Alf you Thorne!!!
Let's pray for a tough fixture list
Allegedly.
Yeah I find it odd that we chose Hawthorn's picks tbh. We gave them Barrass who can only improve them so I would love to know the thought process behind thinking Hawthorn will be worse than Carlton next year.
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I’m not necessarily surprised we chose Hawthorn over Carlton but I do wonder if we considered hedging a little bit
Take Hawthorn’s F1 but then take Carlton’s F2/F3 for example
As it is I think that the two teams won’t finish all that far apart in 2025 so the decision won’t make a large difference
Injuries will be a big factor as always. Hawthorn finished strongly on the back of a healthy list whereas Carlton did the opposite, falling away as they continually lost players to injury
Take Hawthorn’s F1 but then take Carlton’s F2/F3 for example
As it is I think that the two teams won’t finish all that far apart in 2025 so the decision won’t make a large difference
Injuries will be a big factor as always. Hawthorn finished strongly on the back of a healthy list whereas Carlton did the opposite, falling away as they continually lost players to injury
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I think Carlton's pick is likely to be higher but Hawthorn's pick has a higher ceiling. Given both picks should be around the same mark, I don't mind that we've gone for the higher potential ceiling. I did think it was strange that we didn't hedge our bets by taking one of each.
Possibly banking on them getting ahead of themselves and thinking that it will just happen for them.
A bit like adelaide this year after that umpiring **** up cost them finals.
Speaking of adelaide, surely the pressure is on them and nicks to make finals this year.
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I definitely reckon one of Carlton or Hawthorn shit the bed and finish 12th next season. imo Carlton are more likely and really wish we took their picks instead. There's a chance we'll use the future first to move up or into the top 20 on draft night so it could all be speculation for nothing.
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Did Hawthorn really give us a choice of either their or Carlton's picks.
Would have thought it was a no brainer for us to select Carlton's picks.
Carlton have very little chance of making the top 4 and is a decent chance of not making the top 8 at all.
Better chance of that happening compared to Hawthorn.
Would have thought it was a no brainer for us to select Carlton's picks.
Carlton have very little chance of making the top 4 and is a decent chance of not making the top 8 at all.
Better chance of that happening compared to Hawthorn.
I'm more optimistic with Carlton than Hawthorn. It's easy to overlook how many injuries they had this year. Cripps, Curnow, McKay, Western and Walsh is a good spread of high end talent over the field.
Hawks are essentially a bunch of spare parts cobbled together by a mad man (Mitchell). Hinkley broke their gameplan in the finals and I expected other teams to take note. Their young punks also seem to be drinking their bathwater heavily. I could see them doing a Freo 2023 and finishing bottom 4.
Hawks are essentially a bunch of spare parts cobbled together by a mad man (Mitchell). Hinkley broke their gameplan in the finals and I expected other teams to take note. Their young punks also seem to be drinking their bathwater heavily. I could see them doing a Freo 2023 and finishing bottom 4.
The most punchable list in the comp so even if we didn't have all their picks I'd pray for this. Also for it to all fall apart off-field like Melbourne too.
Hopefully the trophy mums of those kids from the cancelled footy clinic put together a class action and bankrupt the family club
I think this is right so why wouldn't we give Hawthorn a subtle middle finger by saying we rate their picks much higher than Carlton's. Well played I say, brilliantly petty.
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Also Carltons picks were traded for pick 14, so we effectively said no to 14 and a future 3rd for Barrass and a future 4th which sounds much worse than what we ended up with.
Don't mention that on the main board.
There are some serious one eyed Hawks posters frothing at any suggestion they won't improve You are an idiot if you think they won't automatically get better.
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