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Right now, I'd take Laverde over Kemp as a 3rd tall defender, but hopefully he continues to develop, preferably as a forward
Laverde’s not a key defender, and I don’t want him as a third tall either.
But my eye test was right, loses the 1v1 more than 1 every 3 times, doubt he wins more 1v1’s than Weitering loses either
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C.Cameron was a rookie pick in 2013.
Played 7 games for 9 goals in 2014
Played 22 games for 20 goals in 2015.
He played 73 games and kicked 87 goals for Crows before being traded to Brisbane at end of 2017.
He has played 153 games and kicked 317 goals for Brisbane since joining them.
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Small forward Charlie Cameron is over six feet tall
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Re: Cripps and Weitering - JUST record breaking Brownlow and AA form? Oh, ye of little faith.
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And Jamie Elliot is an aerial threat. Size don't matter.
It's the motion... Sorry, wrong idiom.
It's the way they play.
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St Kilda has put a BIG deal in front of GWS defender Leek Aleer.
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St Kilda has put a BIG deal in front of GWS defender Leek Aleer.
Declined for next season as he’ll stick around at GWS for 2025.
However 2026 onwards could be a big $ offer / 6yr type of deal outlaid.
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He would have left for those dollars then realised it was the Saints putting forward that deal. He knew it was best for his career not to join them because that’s where players go to die
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If it gave Kemp more time to develop I'd agree, Laverde is the better option at the moment.
However I'm not sure if I see Kemp as a forward. He seems to struggle with forward craft /leading patterns. He tends to lead his defender directly towards contests he should be drawing them away from in order to allow the other forward a 1 on 1 opportunity. He showed this with Harry during the finals, which resulted in his direct opponent coming in and affecting the marking contest.
Question is whether he can learn that craft. I'm not sure either way since it was a small sample size at AFL level.
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St Kilda….
Is there anyone St Kilda isn’t putting a big contract in front of? Problem is very few want to play in that cesspool.
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He would have spent limited time training there & when he did it was without one or both of the primary targets. If he does transition forward permanently, coaching & reps will help him make the adjustment.
I still like him as a more traditional hbf though.
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If Laverde is the better option, then we're asking the wrong questions
I don't think third tall defender is Kemp's best position. In fact I think that is playing him as much out of position as playing him as a key position player. McGovern is good at it. Kemp's best footy in defence is half back, anywhere he has the freedom to get up the field. I still think he would be a really good wing or third tall forward. He is a very offensive player that we have locked into week after week in defensive roles. It's up to the coaches.
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I see it as a stop gap solution. Laverde is 28 turning 29 and he will fill a role while Kemp continues to grow out of his bad habits as a defender and learn his craft.
He's 23 so has time on his side as a kpp to learn.
However I do have concerns he may become a "what if" player. He has some really lovely traits and skills but at the moment he still hasn't cemented a position you can play him in (VFL or AFL)
I'd love for him to succeed and I've been an advocate of him playing in lieu of other players this year, but he really does need to cement a position down for his future career.
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Limited time with Harry & Charlie I'd agree, but he did originally played as a forward in the VFL until the coaches put him in the backline to learn.
It will interesting to see how he come on next year
Interesting post to revisit. How are we tracking?
The Blue Weirdo
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Kemp would have only played a couple of games(maybe less) as a VFL forward in my memory, forced to compensate for our constantly injured KPD's.
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IMO Kemp is not a defender unless it’s playing the Jason Cloke role, which I reckon pretty much any decent footballer his height could do. I’d like to see him re purposed as a forward as that seems to match his skill set better and comes with less risk to the team overall. Big year for Kemp in 2025 because if he fails as a forward I’m not sure what’s next for him. I don’t see any midfield traits in him at all.
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I'd love to see Kemp off a wing.
He is and always will be limited as a KPP.
His best moments have been in transition. Naturally attacking, good speed, good peg, great option down the line.
He is and always will be limited as a KPP.
His best moments have been in transition. Naturally attacking, good speed, good peg, great option down the line.
Agreed. Can take the intercepting defensive marks by dropping back as an extra defender.
He’s not a KPP
Alternatives;
HFF > mobile FF rotation with CC.
HFF > wing rotation with Acres (rate as a handy forward as well).
