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[Soapy V]

Durdin has been in the system a long time with form & durability issues, surely we can find a younger & better option, as others have mentioned time to move on from him at his age.

Name one that can step up now when we are in the window.

I hope we can get someone. I think Durdin has ability but as I have said many times I don't care how good you are if you can't get on the park you are wasting a valuable spot

The fact is Durdin has been delisted. He now doesn't have a spot. If we were convinced he was the answer we would have given him another year straight away. They are giving him the pre season to prove himself. It's still a long shot to happen.

We need someone to step in for Weitering if needed. The role is vital. IMO Young is not an genuine option and we are trialling Jack back there. Who else do we have as a genuine taller big bodied defender?

The club will be looking at every option possible. We have spoken with Phillips & DGB and others. It's about covering every base before finalising spots. It's smart and what should happen. IMO it's something we should have done last pre season and didn't

 

[Arr0w]

If the club/coaches rate Durdin, they would not have delisted him

 

[Lukey Skywalker]

We should seriously move on from Sam Durdin, there’s plenty of evidence his body is clearly not up to it unfortunately, and that’s just off the back of only VFL game level…

I agree & personally I don't think he's afl quality. Don't know why we persist with him

 

[JJBagger]

If the club/coaches rate Durdin, they would not have delisted him

By “rate”, I don’t mean “think he’s the second coming of Stephen Silvagni”. I mean rate him as a clubman, and as a break in case of emergency backup. Again, no guarantee a DGB gives you that

 

[Soapy V]

If the club/coaches rate Durdin, they would not have delisted him

If the coaches didn't rate him they wouldn't have invited him back for a trial

This is about fitness & injury. Nothing more, nothing less

 

[Soapy V]

I agree & personally I don't think he's afl quality. Don't know why we persist with him

Happy to move on but give me another option?

Issue is it's such a vital role. We need someone to back up Weitering if he gets injured or needs a rest. Happy to move on from Durdin but we need "someone"

As I said before we should be looking at everyone and giving Durdin a pre season to prve himself in case we can't find anyone is smart. If he breaks down again in pre season or we find someone else what have we lost?

 

[Gethelred]

What about James Van Es as that defensive piece. Been held back by an ankle injury, but the screws have been removed and he’s had a season of rehab. Good size, only 20 and was rated in his draft year.

James Van Es Draft Profile

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The slight on him is his athleticism, which - to me at least - is a problem because he's be backup for Weitering rather than seeking to fill the second KPD role. The only way it'd work - for me - is if you took Weits out of a defending role and instead plonked him in Gov's role, which - frankly - could absolutely work but still leaves us needing a second KPD.

 

[Arr0w]

By “rate”, I don’t mean “think he’s the second coming of Stephen Silvagni”. I mean rate him as a clubman, and as a break in case of emergency backup. Again, no guarantee a DGB gives you that

Club and coaches loved Marchbank, but you can't persist with injury prone players for so long

I rate Durdin as a break glass option, but his body has been made of glass

If the coaches didn't rate him they wouldn't have invited him back for a trial

This is about fitness & injury. Nothing more, nothing less

Plenty of players get the opportunity as train on players, and while they rate him as a decent back up, they aren't comfortable with his ongoing injuries, hence the delisting

They also have an eye on a couple of other mature age players and a couple of tall kids late in the draft

 

[Soapy V]

Plenty of players get the opportunity as train on players, and while they rate him as a decent back up, they aren't comfortable with his ongoing injuries, hence the delisting

They also have an eye on a couple of other mature age players and a couple of tall kids late in the draft

So they do rate him?

 

[The Bighouse]

Name one that can step up now when we are in the window.

I hope we can get someone. I think Durdin has ability but as I have said many times I don't care how good you are if you can't get on the park you are wasting a valuable spot

The fact is Durdin has been delisted. He now doesn't have a spot. If we were convinced he was the answer we would have given him another year straight away. They are giving him the pre season to prove himself. It's still a long shot to happen.

We need someone to step in for Weitering if needed. The role is vital. IMO Young is not an genuine option and we are trialling Jack back there. Who else do we have as a genuine taller big bodied defender?

The club will be looking at every option possible. We have spoken with Phillips & DGB and others. It's about covering every base before finalising spots. It's smart and what should happen. IMO it's something we should have done last pre season and didn't

Your best ability is your availability…
Like that one, very apt for the CFC

 

[teagueyubeauty]

2.91 in the 20m sprint in his draft year isn’t Weiters slow


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[The Bighouse]

If the club/coaches rate Durdin, they would not have delisted him

Not necessarily so, seeing plenty being delisted across the league this year.
Tight list spots
Draft centric
# of years up as a rookie
Been asked to trial (vs ta-ta)

 

[The Bighouse]

Club and coaches loved Marchbank, but you can't persist with injury prone players for so long

I rate Durdin as a break glass option, but his body has been made of glass



Plenty of players get the opportunity as train on players, and while they rate him as a decent back up, they aren't comfortable with his ongoing injuries, hence the delisting

They also have an eye on a couple of other mature age players and a couple of tall kids late in the draft

Marchy seems cooked, and concussion/s were the latest to the injury history pile-on.
Be interested to see if he puts his hand up to play again, or his AFL retirement beckons (someone alluded to this late in the year).

It all depends on Nigel’s input from the Inness arrival and a bit of personal luck. He is the most viable option for us down back, if he can remain out on the park.

See what the ND can reign in for a quality KPD (late pick however) but they will be in for VFL development first & foremost.

 

[Coona Blues]

What about James Van Es as that defensive piece. Been held back by an ankle injury, but the screws have been removed and he’s had a season of rehab. Good size, only 20 and was rated in his draft year.

Watch this space. Sounds like a VFL signing to see how he comes on.

 

[macky99]

Name one that can step up now when we are in the window.

I hope we can get someone. I think Durdin has ability but as I have said many times I don't care how good you are if you can't get on the park you are wasting a valuable spot

The fact is Durdin has been delisted. He now doesn't have a spot. If we were convinced he was the answer we would have given him another year straight away. They are giving him the pre season to prove himself. It's still a long shot to happen.

We need someone to step in for Weitering if needed. The role is vital. IMO Young is not an genuine option and we are trialling Jack back there. Who else do we have as a genuine taller big bodied defender?

The club will be looking at every option possible. We have spoken with Phillips & DGB and others. It's about covering every base before finalising spots. It's smart and what should happen. IMO it's something we should have done last pre season and didn't

Durdin is 29 next year, based on his injury history and the number of games he has played, there are younger better options, you have even mentioned them yourself, it would be a backward step to redraft him at his phrase of his career.

 

[Soapy V]

Durdin is 29 next year, based on his injury history and the number of games he has played, there are younger better options, you have even mentioned them yourself, it would be a backward step to redraft him at his phrase of his career.

Fine. Who and what happens if we don’t get them?

 

[koutashoulda1_1]

Club and coaches loved Marchbank, but you can't persist with injury prone players for so long

I rate Durdin as a break glass option, but his body has been made of glass



Plenty of players get the opportunity as train on players, and while they rate him as a decent back up, they aren't comfortable with his ongoing injuries, hence the delisting

They also have an eye on a couple of other mature age players and a couple of tall kids late in the draft

Seems to me that Voss at least really likes the guy. Remember him chuckling when Nigel came in this year, was immediately injured, then effectively toughed it out on one leg.

I imagine he's been delisted to make room for young KPD in draft and, if our target goes before our pick 38 (or Ben is bid on earlier), we'd be targeting a Phillips or possibly a DGB. Sts are also looking at Phillips apparently, so give Nige a chance to train on as a plan c or d.

Can see him being given a spot on the VFL list to maybe line coach a bit if all else falls through for him. Seems to be well liked and respected despite being made of chewies and toothpicks.

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[Bamboo Harvester]

Durdin is 29 next year, based on his injury history and the number of games he has played, there are younger better options, you have even mentioned them yourself, it would be a backward step to redraft him at his phrase of his career.

Yeah, I agree.....love the big fella and I reckon he'd be pretty popular around the group when you hear him speak.

But at some stage you gotta cut your losses like we did with Martin, Cunners etc. If they can't be trusted to get out on the park then there's not much point. He's had 2 years and unfortunately hasn't been able to deliver. We've got our 'back up' KPD in Young, who can actually get out on the park when called on.

I'd be fine offering DGB or Phillips a 1 year contract to see how they go. But I also reckon that sometimes we see the grass always greener on the other side, and we have some talent already under our noses like McMahon and White that we should be looking closely at.

We once had a bloke named Kane Lambert right under our noses - winning the B&F in our magoos before the Tiggs took a chance on him - and ended up playing 135 games with 3 premierships under his belt.

 

[The Bighouse]

Yeah, I agree.....love the big fella and I reckon he'd be pretty popular around the group when you hear him speak.

But at some stage you gotta cut your losses like we did with Martin, Cunners etc. If they can't be trusted to get out on the park then there's not much point. He's had 2 years and unfortunately hasn't been able to deliver. We've got our 'back up' KPD in Young, who can actually get out on the park when called on.

I'd be fine offering DGB or Phillips a 1 year contract to see how they go. But I also reckon that sometimes we see the grass always greener on the other side, and we have some talent already under our noses like McMahon and White that we should be looking closely at.

We once had a bloke named Kane Lambert right under our noses - winning the B&F in our magoos before the Tiggs took a chance on him - and ended up playing 135 games with 3 premierships under his belt.

Enter Rob Inness & hopefully some new eyes & practices on the injury riddled.

Train-on period allows all suspects to audition with the new HP team at the wheel, we’ll see how both sides of the fence perform in the pre-season.

Hopefully we bolster our VFL team with those that don’t make the rookie list, and they can continue to show their wares out on the park (MSD candidates, or DFA in ‘25).

 

[DirkDiggler]

He is, but I believe in time he will push further up the ground

Midfield rotation?

 

[Soapy V]

Yeah, I agree.....love the big fella and I reckon he'd be pretty popular around the group when you hear him speak.

But at some stage you gotta cut your losses like we did with Martin, Cunners etc. If they can't be trusted to get out on the park then there's not much point. He's had 2 years and unfortunately hasn't been able to deliver. We've got our 'back up' KPD in Young, who can actually get out on the park when called on.

I'd be fine offering DGB or Phillips a 1 year contract to see how they go. But I also reckon that sometimes we see the grass always greener on the other side, and we have some talent already under our noses like McMahon and White that we should be looking closely at.

We once had a bloke named Kane Lambert right under our noses - winning the B&F in our magoos before the Tiggs took a chance on him - and ended up playing 135 games with 3 premierships under his belt.

I think people are misisng the point or getting ahead of ourselves

Durdin has been delisted. He doesn't have a spot and will have to get through a full pre season to give himself any chance.

Most would agree we need another mature big bodied KPD on our list. There aren't many around and the ones discussed aren't locks to be any good or even play for us

I have no doubt that Austin & Co are looking everywhere for the right player and if we can get someone then that is great. Issue is they are rare and everyone wants them. Hawks paid a heap to get Barrass & Battle

Ethan Phillips is being chased by a few clubs and DGB is thinking about going back to Perth. Even if we want them they aren't assured to come to us

Durdin is simply a back up option. IF he can get through a pre season, and IF we can't get anyone else he is THEN worth considering as depth going into a year we feel are a flag.

IMO that is smart and logical. It is very unlikely we re sign him BUT what is the harm of having him train to see? If Innes thinks he can fix him or if Durdin has treatment Cerra had or even something else what is the downside?

Even if we sign him as last option in SSP and he injuries himself we can delist and get another player in mid season draft

I just don't see downside in letting him try?

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Enter Rob Inness & hopefully some new eyes & practices on the injury riddled.

Which is why I would have kept Martin on for another year if he agreed. We've now got a new high performnace manager, and we've seen how much of an impact Martin has to our forward half when he's in - especially when we're pushing for a premiership tilt. Marchy and Cunners I was fine with, but Martin I was disappointed.

I'd have offered another year to him under Inness to see whether a fresh set of eyes may have seen some positive results - but I suspect he's had a gutful of the club, and we may have had a gutful of him if his rehab standards weren't up to scratch as some have mentioned.

He'll make an impact at the Cats IF they can get him to a certain level of fitness. For mine it may be one that could come back to bite us on the bum, but only time will tell.

 

[The Bighouse]

Which is why I would have kept Martin on for another year if he agreed. We've now got a new high performnace manager, and we've seen how much of an impact Martin has to our forward half when he's in - especially when we're pushing for a premiership tilt. Marchy and Cunners I was fine with, but Martin I was disappointed.

I'd have offered another year to him under Inness to see whether a fresh set of eyes may have seen some positive results - but I suspect he's had a gutful of the club, and we may have had a gutful of him if his rehab standards weren't up to scratch as some have mentioned.

He'll make an impact at the Cats IF they can get him to a certain level of fitness. For mine it may be one that could come back to bite us on the bum, but only time will tell.

Ha, I was going to put a similar line in about Jack Martin, disappointed we couldn’t get him onboard with the new fitness team for a fresh start.
See how he pans out at The Cattery.

 

[BlueJet]

James Van Es Draft Profile

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The slight on him is his athleticism, which - to me at least - is a problem because he's be backup for Weitering rather than seeking to fill the second KPD role. The only way it'd work - for me - is if you took Weits out of a defending role and instead plonked him in Gov's role, which - frankly - could absolutely work but still leaves us needing a second KPD.

He's pretty athletic but he needs coaching so that he can better use his athleticism on field.
With that in mind, he's more of a developmental player than a plug & play solution.
I suspect he'll play state league & build some confidence in his body.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

What about James Van Es as that defensive piece. Been held back by an ankle injury, but the screws have been removed and he’s had a season of rehab. Good size, only 20 and was rated in his draft year.

Hard to see him being picked up.

Following his injuries he has very limited feeling in his ankle/foot which makes it hard for him to kick or jump.