As an ex-Trinity boy, it is good to see one make good. Just not against Carlton.
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Beyond Blue
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Iām happy with our all pick ups as IMO they address needs, provided we round things out by getting another key position player by taking one of McMahon or DGB as an SSP.
However it still feels like we lack genuine small forwards who can impact the scoreboard unless Motlop makes a massive step forward in 2025.
However it still feels like we lack genuine small forwards who can impact the scoreboard unless Motlop makes a massive step forward in 2025.
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Can't solve all the list problems in one off season...
Lachie Fogarty, Corey Durdin and Jesse Motlop need to have a big 2025... they were all selected relatively early in their respective drafts (all 2nd round picks), so they were seen as talented small forwards... time to step up.
I know I'm a broken record, but signing McMahon is a no brainer imo.
He's still only 22yo, so now approaching the age where key forwards start to mature. Proven goal kicker (2nd overall in the VFL) and won our B&F....not sure what more he needs to do to earn a spot.
Anyway, I digress. If H or Charles go down for an extended period during the season, we're in all sorts. You can start plugging holes or trying to manufacture a makeshift forward half week after week. Or throw TDK up there at the expense of our ruck, and bring Pitto in as our 1st ruck. Or throw JSOS or Kemp there as a key marking option week after week, and pray for the best.
Of course we've got Lemmey - but at the end of last year when we our arses were hanging out the seat of our pants with a huge injury toll, no key forwards, and only 27 odd players to choose from, big Lem was still kcking the dew off the grass in the VFL....which just demonstrates the MC don't have the confidence right now to give him a crack at senior level. That may change over summer, but if it doesn't, we're back to bare bones.
For mine, we desperately need another forward who can take a big grab and kick goals. Who knows, McMahon may become our Logan Morris as that 3rd tall mobile marking forward.
Out of our other train ons, I'm not convinced in the slightest with DGB, Carroll now appears to be surplus especially after today, and big Nigel can't be trusted to get onto the park. I'd be taking McMahon and leave the other spot for the mid season draft....unless the next Eddie Betts/Jeff Garlett small forward happens to fall on our laps.
He's still only 22yo, so now approaching the age where key forwards start to mature. Proven goal kicker (2nd overall in the VFL) and won our B&F....not sure what more he needs to do to earn a spot.
Anyway, I digress. If H or Charles go down for an extended period during the season, we're in all sorts. You can start plugging holes or trying to manufacture a makeshift forward half week after week. Or throw TDK up there at the expense of our ruck, and bring Pitto in as our 1st ruck. Or throw JSOS or Kemp there as a key marking option week after week, and pray for the best.
Of course we've got Lemmey - but at the end of last year when we our arses were hanging out the seat of our pants with a huge injury toll, no key forwards, and only 27 odd players to choose from, big Lem was still kcking the dew off the grass in the VFL....which just demonstrates the MC don't have the confidence right now to give him a crack at senior level. That may change over summer, but if it doesn't, we're back to bare bones.
For mine, we desperately need another forward who can take a big grab and kick goals. Who knows, McMahon may become our Logan Morris as that 3rd tall mobile marking forward.
Out of our other train ons, I'm not convinced in the slightest with DGB, Carroll now appears to be surplus especially after today, and big Nigel can't be trusted to get onto the park. I'd be taking McMahon and leave the other spot for the mid season draft....unless the next Eddie Betts/Jeff Garlett small forward happens to fall on our laps.
Beyond Blue
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But it has been a problem for a very long time. IMO 2020-21 Eddie Betts is the best small forward weāve had in a decade.
Durdin and Fogarty arenāt small forwards, rather midfielders who are ok pressure players. Iām not expecting much from them.
Williams has very little history as a small forward outside of the second half of last year, albeit he looked good when he did.
Fantasia is just an honest trier now, all the spark and flair of earlier years is long gone and isnāt coming back.
Motlop is a proper small forward with real goal sense so we need him to hit the scoreboard regularly next year.
I wouldnāt mind us trying Doc there as he has good goal sense but it just highlights what slim pickings we have.
Dunna Heartknee
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His combine sprint time would have put him comfortably in the top ten this year.
The knock on him was consistency and lack of development but after the season he just had, you wouldn't say that' s an issue anymore.
It's good we are putting him through the paces of preseason training, he has that special movement that translates to a very good AFL player.
The talent is there, comes down to is he driven enough.
sweethoney
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McMahon was delisted because Collingwood were in a position to win the premiership and McRae wanted experienced players and was delisted because of Frampton
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I know next to nothing about McMahon. So out of interest, if neither Harry or Charlie are injured, is there a spot for him in our team? Or is he purely a break glass in emergency type of player?
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I think we'd be too tall(not enough mobility and pressure) if we went with Harry, Charlie, TDK and Liam in the one side.
He'd need to be the 3rd tall lead up type due to his slim build. The question would be "are Kemp, Moir and JSOS and HOK better options.'
I'm all in on selecting though.
The Return of the Paf
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Wouldn't it depend a bit on form and 'the next man up'? I can at least see him starting on the bench and it might be good for rotations. I think too much pressure and focus are placed on our current two key forwards and it would be good to see how they respond to having more options around them.
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We should be taking McMahon over other options. Perfect back up for Harry and Charlie.
So if we take McMahon, does that leave one spot open for the mid season draft for another smoky like Lord ?
Not interested in Durdin or DGB and Carroll can sign with the VFL team to prove his worth ā¦
Not interested in Durdin or DGB and Carroll can sign with the VFL team to prove his worth ā¦
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The more interviews I see of Jagga, the more excited I get. What a young man, an absolute future Captainā¦
Still annoys me having Durdin as a train on player. We could have added a combination of Stumpf, Burmeister, Dennis, Selwood or Voss.
Would rather Clancy Dennis over Durdin or DGBā¦
Still annoys me having Durdin as a train on player. We could have added a combination of Stumpf, Burmeister, Dennis, Selwood or Voss.
Would rather Clancy Dennis over Durdin or DGBā¦
4flagsin5yrs
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should have kept Martin imo.
He's miles ahead of Lemmey as a tall forward right now.
Can go back as well....when our defence were getting hammered in some games, he was the one they would always throw down back as the loose intercept defender a la Charlie.
If Mcmahon was on the list he would have played last year. Perfect for depth. Can play both ends.
Not sure why we wouldnt sign him.
Right now our plan A if one of Harry or Charlie get injured is TDK forward, Pitto to the ruck. Plan B if 2 of those 3 are unavailable is undersized forward line. Dont love that plan.
Not sure why we wouldnt sign him.
Right now our plan A if one of Harry or Charlie get injured is TDK forward, Pitto to the ruck. Plan B if 2 of those 3 are unavailable is undersized forward line. Dont love that plan.
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I personally think if McMahon gets put on the list he needs to add some size if he's that body type as big step from vfl to afl with athletic 200cm key defenders now.
He could be more you're gunston type. He definitely has some solid traits.. great kick & hands + some acceleration of the mark which you need these days.
Would love to see Harry & Tdk play some practise matches at CHB just to see how they would go & have that option up our sleeve.
He could be more you're gunston type. He definitely has some solid traits.. great kick & hands + some acceleration of the mark which you need these days.
Would love to see Harry & Tdk play some practise matches at CHB just to see how they would go & have that option up our sleeve.
- Nov 27, 2016
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Fog was pick 8
Edit: pick 22. My memory is playing tricks on me.
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I think if the club decides to commit to Lemmey being a forward, then we need a defender which makes DGB the likely signing (assuming he impresses at training and remains injury free).
If they believe Lemmey might be more viable as a defender then that opens up a spot for McMahon.
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If they believe Lemmey might be more viable as a defender then that opens up a spot for McMahon.
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- Mar 25, 2019
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If we had have landed Hayward or Stengle as free agents this off season would have been an all timer.
Our last major hole on the list, our current crop are simply putrid ATM.
Our last major hole on the list, our current crop are simply putrid ATM.
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Weāre definitely putting a lot of faith in a substantially improved output from Motlop, Durdin, Moir and Fantasia (maybe heāll be like Daisy Thomas and actually get better with a bit more confidence in his body?). The good thing is, they could hardly contribute less than they did this year so the only way is up.
If we had kept picks 12 and 14, I wouldāve been happy to trade Motlop and Durdin instead of Kennedy and Carroll, leaving us in a position to draft Berry and Hannaford.
I suspect our performance wouldāve improved more next year with this approach but getting Jagga will benefit us more for the next 15 years so Iām not complaining.
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All I hope is Austin and co have some names lined up for next year to fill that void if the form issues persist amongst our lot.
We won't have a heap of trade capital but small forwards play a massive part in the modern game, going another season without any established threats is a risk we've almost been forced to take given we had other list holes to fill too.
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Lemmey needs to find aggression really quickly or he's going to find himself off the list (imo). He's got the tools.
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