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Disagree.
Starting midfield is Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, Hewett.
Kids need to prove themselves and dislodge the senior boys in pre-season.
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Starting midfield is Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, Hewett.
Kids need to prove themselves and dislodge the senior boys in pre-season.
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Particularly as we only had 2-3 players not in the seniors at the end of the year.
Would like to see Voss trust the 1 to 2 year players a little more - they’re much more likely to benefit from playing a few senior AFL games in a competitive unit as we have been over the past three years rather than having been thrown to the wolves in the Bolton years and the likes of Dow, OBrien and Fisher, Petreski-Seton getting smashed week after week in the midfield.
Agree. Apart from Jagga most of the new draftees will need development in the VFL before stepping up.
Would like to see guys like Moir, Jagga and Binns get games in the AFL next year.
Yup agree with another year, but naturally we expect signs of natural progress, more tenacity and attack at the ball, would be great. Harry can be a little laconic, a trait that has been a demise of many a tall forward.
Agree good development of our youngsters is vital ,indispensable, however easier said than done , especially when our VFL team is flogged often.
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But is it though?
Apparently we need McMahon (despite him having been on another clubs list and failing) on the list because he is in the sweet spot at 22 because we apparently don't have confidence in Lemmey despite him being only 19 when he last played.
Not sure that we need a back up to the back up to two of the best key forwards in the comp, unless we don't believe that Lemmey has any improvement in him at all. I thought that Lemmey was starting to show a bit towards the end of last season. I'd be happy to back him in rather than carry a 4th tall forward, particularly if Kemp is going to play forward and Moir has a break out season.
Agree. I still think they have to earn their spot but if its a marginal call we should always go with the young player.
We are getting to the stage of having alot of older players in our 22. Given where the club is at all those guys will want to hold on for as long as possible.
Need to think carefully how we navigate that over the next 3-4 years. Dont want to get to a situation where those guys are retiring / falling off a cliff and the next crop have left for more opportunitty or not had enough experience to take over. Its a situation we could easily find ourselves in.
I think Lemmey needs to be ready for 1s by end of preseason to not select McMahon. Clearly the club didnt think so at the end of last season as there were multiple spots and we restructured our forwardline instead.
If they would not be comfortable selecting Lemmey to cover an injury then they need to rookie McMahon.
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But wouldn't Kemp be in a position to cover an injury to Charlie or Harry or alternatively JSOS?
It seems a waste to add a 4th tall, who was deemed surplus to requirements at another club, to our list when we have three tall forwards and another two who could pinch hit there if required.
Particularly when some want to write off the next cab off the rank (Lemmey) because the club didn't want to risk him as a 19 year old and therefore the assumption seems to be that a big tall can't improve in his third year.
Only problem is we aren’t winning enough games, too many injuries and we have to resort to not resting any players and playing only Best 23 and not blooding youngsters
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Yep.
I like Lord as much as anyone and he has great potential.
But he’s behind Hewett right now, and it’s not really close.
It’s a small sample size, but Lord averaged 17 touches at 76% with 10 tackles in his 2 games.
In those 2 games, Hewett averaged 33.5 touches at 70% with 16 tackles. He also kicked a goal in 1 of those and followed those performances up with 33 and a goal in a final against the soon to be premiers.
If Lord can get past Hewett then that’s fantastic for us, but it’s not even a conversation right now
The Blue Weirdo
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It would be an interesting 'battle' between Lord and George if Lord's gametime and fitness improved markedly next season.
Lord's hands were dynamic in the few games he was given, might give him the edge over George in releasing more outside run and creating scoring opportunities?
The overall possession stats are less important than the results of those possessions.
Lord's hands were dynamic in the few games he was given, might give him the edge over George in releasing more outside run and creating scoring opportunities?
The overall possession stats are less important than the results of those possessions.
Would have preferred to have played 2 of either Binns, Lord and Moir in the final versus Brisbane than underdone Cerra, Cottrell and Docherty.
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And that lolParticularly as we only had 2-3 players not in the seniors at the end of the year.
Bit of talk about George maybe being pushed out. I don't buy that opinion personally. He finished the season strong and was clearly our second best mid. When his back is fine he is a very good mid. He had a patch where his form dipped when you could clearly see he couldn't bend to pick up the ball. When he was fine physically, he was, and is very good.
I can see the main mids being Crippa, Walsh, Hewett, Cerra and Jagga.
Everyone will have opinions, but the 3 for mine who might find it hard are Williams, Doc and Kemp. Williams hit the ground running in his first 3 or 4 games as a small forward, but he looked to really struggle after that. I think he's running on fumes. Doc also. He's just missed so much footy and is in his 30's now. He's a long way behind and playing catchup. I know he's Superman...but.
Kemp will be interesting. I think to all of us, there's a lot to like about Kemp...but he still makes you nervous. It seems to me he may have reached the Paddy Dow stage where i don't think he has everyone's trust on the field and in the box. My read is he was probably very available at trade time. From there, do they put trust in others they might want to put trust into. There are plenty of candidates.
I can see the main mids being Crippa, Walsh, Hewett, Cerra and Jagga.
Everyone will have opinions, but the 3 for mine who might find it hard are Williams, Doc and Kemp. Williams hit the ground running in his first 3 or 4 games as a small forward, but he looked to really struggle after that. I think he's running on fumes. Doc also. He's just missed so much footy and is in his 30's now. He's a long way behind and playing catchup. I know he's Superman...but.
Kemp will be interesting. I think to all of us, there's a lot to like about Kemp...but he still makes you nervous. It seems to me he may have reached the Paddy Dow stage where i don't think he has everyone's trust on the field and in the box. My read is he was probably very available at trade time. From there, do they put trust in others they might want to put trust into. There are plenty of candidates.
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On Kemp - if he is potential trade bait for next off season, then we absolutely need to be playing him every week he's available. Better to have a "best 22 tall, first round pick from a few years ago" to shop around than a "fringe player who just wants to get some opportunity somewhere".
If he comes good and wants to stick around, great. If he doesn't, then we should be angling for a top 20 pick next year given how happy everyone seemed to be to trade out of it this year.
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Isn't he out of contract next year..
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I could not agree more about Hewett. He is our defensive mid. He is in the top 5-6 defensive mids in the comp. What would Sydney be without Rowbottom this year? Brisbane without Dunkley? Port have 3 jets in the midfield... Butters, Rozee and JHF. But you never see all 3 in there. Why? Because you always need a defensive mid for team balance, which is the role Drew played so well for them this year. The strike and engine mids typically always get all the accolades, but someone needs to play the more sacrificial role at every stoppage of the defensive mid. I am of the firm view that if we are going deep in 25, it is with Hewett in our best 22... helping make Walsh, Cerra, Cripps, Jagga etc. shine
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Dynamic hands? I'm all for pumping up a bloke but wtf does that even mean lol?
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Agree with most except Kemp & Cerra. I think Kemp is fine and will play every week unless injured.
Cerra, I dont have any faith in. To me, I think Lord will be on his hammer, and pushing him out first sign of body issues.
I think we're better off sticking to the Contested game, we aren't a bunch of speedsters, and we aren't going to change that overnight. A few tweaks, and the addition of some silk, and we should be right back in contention.
We don't want to be another cookie cutter side with the exact same run and gun template.
Having sides fear getting physically smashed by us will do a lot more to hurt confidence than trying to beat them at a running game.
George is rock solid. Very Good towards the end of last year when he got his body right.
We are at a totally different stage as a club and certainly as a list, list spots in the days of lob and sps were plentiful and not as highly competitive, since the reduction of list sizes plus the fact our list is now ultra competitive all the way down to the last spot, and we are now at a stage that we are actually looking to upgrade the players at the lower parts of our list with higher ceiling higher draft pick range players.
This is a great thing and testament to our overall list build that now has a very even distribution across the age ranges, when we have had misses in drafts like sps, Dow and lob we have gone back and replaced them with players like Cerra, Acres, Fogarty, Elijah etc, this has been done all the way back to 2013 hence we have that even spread across ages and draft classes.
The steady cohesive way we have progressed, only interrupted by the interference of Liddle, has been remarkable and is testament to our list managers but also the leadership from the President and most importantly our best in comp CEO in Brian Cook, all of course started by SOS whose 2015 draft exploits set us on this road to redemption with his key position selection knowledge to guide us through that top 15 mine field of key position talent that could have easily gone so wrong, yet he nailed his picks and got the 3 best key position prospects in that draft, picking mids was not so much his bag as evidenced above with SPS, Dow and LOB.
We as supporters need to recognise this list build more as it has been exceptional and is continuing to trend that way, this draft has now cemented our next Gen players on our list and we now already have our next midfield already in place learning from the current midfield, as well as adding a great developing key defender for the future, our list is now in the best place I have seen it since the late 70s early 80s and that needs to be praised.
We have a list that if well maintained using the same philosophy that got us here can contend for flags for years to come, as Sydney and Geelong have done, what we did by not buying into the Houston hype and overpaying for him, but rather using the same draft capital to move up the draft order to number 3 and select a player that will play 250+ games for us and probably captain at some stage, as well as our other draft selections, which worked out perfectly for us and gave us exactly what we wanted, this was exactly the correct decision for our future and our present, whether we kept 12 & 14 or did what we did and moved up it doesn’t matter we invested correctly either way, and again stays true to our list philosophy of building a sustainable list that will contend for years to come. Go Blues.
PS: Adding Liam McMahon in the SSP window would be great and further cement our future by building out our future key position stock, ditto for DGB although technically not key position size he would be a great selection to learn from Nick Haynes the intercept role at AFL level.
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