Discussion 2025 Pre-Season Planning Discussion

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I'm not sure about Sicily now that Hawthorn brought in KPD players. Suspect he goes forward a bit.

Mitch Lewis coming back into the forward line with Chol and Dear. Is there a need for him there?

Could a couple of late clutch goals boost his score to the point it is still worth it picking him?

 

[Caztheconquerer]

Tigers going to be a goldmine for rookies next year

 

[toxic]

Tigers going to be a goldmine for rookies next year

Tambling?
Lounder?

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Looking at the Top 50 Draft projections it looks like it will be Midfield dominated with mainly Key Position Forwards & Defenders not really many running Half Backs and Small Forwards. I'm sure there will be quite a few that will be Mid/Fwd but it could be pretty lean down back again next year for quality rookies. Maybe starting with 5 Premo Defenders and only 3-4 Midfielders with a few cheap Forwards available it could be the way to go.


1. Levi Ashcroft (179cm mid, Brisbane)
2. Finn O'Sullivan (182cm mid, Vic Country)
3. Harvey Langford (191cm mid, Vic Country)
4. Xavier Lindsay (183cm mid, Vic Country)
5. Alix Tauru (193cm def, Vic Country)
6. Jagga Smith (182cm mid, Vic Metro)
7. Murphy Reid (181cm mid, Vic Metro)
8. Sid Draper (182cm mid, South Australia)
9. Joe Berry (181cm fwd, Vic Country)
10. Sam Lalor (188cm mid, Vic Country)

11. Leonardo Lombard (179cm mid, Gold Coast)
12. Josh Smillie (195cm mid, Vic Metro)
13. Tobie Travaglia (187cm def, Vic Country)
14. Harry Armstrong (195cm fwd, Vic Metro)
15. Hamish Davis (190cm fwd, Western Australia)
16. Harrison Oliver (181cm def, Vic Metro)
17. Luke Trainor (194cm def, Vic Metro)
18. Bo Allan (191cm def/mid, Western Australia)
19. Isaac Kako (176cm fwd, Vic Metro)
20. Taj Hotton (182cm mid/fwd, Vic Metro)

21. Jobe Shanahan (195cm fwd, Allies)
22. Angus Clarke (189cm def, South Australia)
23. Cooper Hynes (190cm fwd, Vic Country)
24. Tom Gross (181cm mid, Vic Metro)
25. Jesse Dattoli (179cm mid/fwd, Vic Metro)
26. Sam Marshall (185cm mid, Brisbane)
27. James Barrat (194cm def, Vic Country)
28. Christian Moraes (183cm mid, Vic Metro)
29. Jack Whitlock (200cm fwd, Vic Country)
30. Oliver Hannaford (180cm fwd, Vic Country)

31. Alex Dodson (201cm ruck, South Australia)
32. Noah Mraz (198cm def, Vic Country)
33. Jonty Faull (195cm fwd, Vic Country)
34. Kayle Gerreyn (199cm ruck/fwd, Western Australia)
35. Luke Urquhart (188cm mid, Western Australia)
36. Lachie Jacques (184cm def, Vic Country)
37. Matt Whitlock (198cm fwd/def, Vic Country)
38. Archer Day-Wicks (186cm, mid/fwd, Vic Country)
39. Ben Camporeale (186cm mid, South Australia)
40. Jaxon Artemis (187cm def/mid, Western Australia)

41. Lucas Camporeale (184cm mid, South Australia)
42. Ned Bowman (187cm fwd, South Australia)
43. Tom Sims (199cm fwd, Vic Country)
44. Logan Smith (204cm ruck, Allies)
45. Charlie Nicholls (197cm fwd, South Australia)
46. Hugh Boxshall (187cm mid, Western Australia)
47. Jasper Alger (183cm mid/fwd, Vic Country)
48. Zak Johnson (185cm mid, Vic Metro)
49. Rhys Unwin (178cm fwd, Vic Country)
50. Tyler Welsh (191cm fwd, South Australia)

 

[buttox]

Looking at the Top 50 Draft projections it looks like it will be Midfield dominated with mainly Key Position Forwards & Defenders not really many running Half Backs and Small Forwards. I'm sure there will be quite a few that will be Mid/Fwd but it could be pretty lean down back again next year for quality rookies. Maybe starting with 5 Premo Defenders and only 3-4 Midfielders with a few cheap Forwards available it could be the way to go.


1. Levi Ashcroft (179cm mid, Brisbane)
2. Finn O'Sullivan (182cm mid, Vic Country)
3. Harvey Langford (191cm mid, Vic Country)
4. Xavier Lindsay (183cm mid, Vic Country)
5. Alix Tauru (193cm def, Vic Country)
6. Jagga Smith (182cm mid, Vic Metro)
7. Murphy Reid (181cm mid, Vic Metro)
8. Sid Draper (182cm mid, South Australia)
9. Joe Berry (181cm fwd, Vic Country)
10. Sam Lalor (188cm mid, Vic Country)

11. Leonardo Lombard (179cm mid, Gold Coast)
12. Josh Smillie (195cm mid, Vic Metro)
13. Tobie Travaglia (187cm def, Vic Country)
14. Harry Armstrong (195cm fwd, Vic Metro)
15. Hamish Davis (190cm fwd, Western Australia)
16. Harrison Oliver (181cm def, Vic Metro)
17. Luke Trainor (194cm def, Vic Metro)
18. Bo Allan (191cm def/mid, Western Australia)
19. Isaac Kako (176cm fwd, Vic Metro)
20. Taj Hotton (182cm mid/fwd, Vic Metro)

21. Jobe Shanahan (195cm fwd, Allies)
22. Angus Clarke (189cm def, South Australia)
23. Cooper Hynes (190cm fwd, Vic Country)
24. Tom Gross (181cm mid, Vic Metro)
25. Jesse Dattoli (179cm mid/fwd, Vic Metro)
26. Sam Marshall (185cm mid, Brisbane)
27. James Barrat (194cm def, Vic Country)
28. Christian Moraes (183cm mid, Vic Metro)
29. Jack Whitlock (200cm fwd, Vic Country)
30. Oliver Hannaford (180cm fwd, Vic Country)

31. Alex Dodson (201cm ruck, South Australia)
32. Noah Mraz (198cm def, Vic Country)
33. Jonty Faull (195cm fwd, Vic Country)
34. Kayle Gerreyn (199cm ruck/fwd, Western Australia)
35. Luke Urquhart (188cm mid, Western Australia)
36. Lachie Jacques (184cm def, Vic Country)
37. Matt Whitlock (198cm fwd/def, Vic Country)
38. Archer Day-Wicks (186cm, mid/fwd, Vic Country)
39. Ben Camporeale (186cm mid, South Australia)
40. Jaxon Artemis (187cm def/mid, Western Australia)

41. Lucas Camporeale (184cm mid, South Australia)
42. Ned Bowman (187cm fwd, South Australia)
43. Tom Sims (199cm fwd, Vic Country)
44. Logan Smith (204cm ruck, Allies)
45. Charlie Nicholls (197cm fwd, South Australia)
46. Hugh Boxshall (187cm mid, Western Australia)
47. Jasper Alger (183cm mid/fwd, Vic Country)
48. Zak Johnson (185cm mid, Vic Metro)
49. Rhys Unwin (178cm fwd, Vic Country)
50. Tyler Welsh (191cm fwd, South Australia)

The top 3 is not the quality of the previous few years. Maybe ashcroft might be worth it.
It might be an idea to revert to the old no high priced rookies rule.
Bit of a watch for pre season.
The depth of the draft should give us decent cheap options

 

[A Bit Dusty]

The top 3 is not the quality of the previous few years. Maybe ashcroft might be worth it.
It might be an idea to revert to the old no high priced rookies rule.
Bit of a watch for pre season.
The depth of the draft should give us decent cheap options

Not sure where you're getting your info from mate but there are some guns in this draft. Why do you think all the clubs are trying to get the top picks.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Not sure where you're getting your info from mate but there are some guns in this draft. Why do you think all the clubs are trying to get the top picks.

Consensus on draft board seems to be the top end is not equal to the last few years, but the draft is deeper than usual.

Possible that pick 10 ends up being a better player than pick 1 this year.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Consensus on draft board seems to be the top end is not equal to the last few years, but the draft is deeper than usual.

Possible that pick 10 ends up being a better player than pick 1 this year.

Lucky the Tigers have both picks 1 & 10 then

 

[marcmurphy3]

I think Jagga, Ashcroft, Draper will be the best picks in that order of preference. Obviously where they end up will impact too but all are ready to go. Lalor and FOS I'm less confident on. Will be expensive and probably play mainly forward. Not as ready. Langford, Reid and Smillie will depend on where they end up and role. I could see Lindsay playing 22 games as an outside mid and cheaper given he will go in the teens. They're the ones that stick out to me.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

I think Jagga, Ashcroft, Draper will be the best picks in that order of preference. Obviously where they end up will impact too but all are ready to go. Lalor and FOS I'm less confident on. Will be expensive and probably play mainly forward. Not as ready. Langford, Reid and Smillie will depend on where they end up and role. I could see Lindsay playing 22 games as an outside mid and cheaper given he will go in the teens. They're the ones that stick out to me.

Jagga Smith is a ball magnet and whichever club he goes to he will score well in Supercoach. Ashcroft is the same but might not get a game early for the Lions. Murphy Reid is another high possession midfielder and Travaglia will 100% be the best Supercoach defender similar to McKercher.

 

[buttox]

Not sure where you're getting your info from mate but there are some guns in this draft. Why do you think all the clubs are trying to get the top picks.

The draft gurus I've spoken to have said it has 9 picks 6s then about 50 late first rounders.
It's deep but there is no sheezal daicos, jhf reed types. The top end is not great hence North and wc trying to trade down.

 

[buttox]

Jagga Smith is a ball magnet and whichever club he goes to he will score well in Supercoach. Ashcroft is the same but might not get a game early for the Lions. Murphy Reid is another high possession midfielder and Travaglia will 100% be the best Supercoach defender similar to McKercher.

Jagga will be good eventually but he's not big enough for round 1.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

The draft gurus I've spoken to have said it has 9 picks 6s then about 50 late first rounders.
It's deep but there is no sheezal daicos, jhf reed types. The top end is not great hence North and wc trying to trade down.

I do agree about there being No standout Pick 1 this year and the first 7-8 players you could almost throw a blanket over them. I thought North wanted to trade down because they need a couple of Key position players and with pick 2 it's wasted when you have to pick the best player available which will be a Midfielder and you have plenty of them.

It looks like it will be very similar to the 2019 draft where there is No Champion but plenty of A-B graders in the Top 20.

 

[buttox]

I do agree about there being No standout Pick 1 this year and the first 7-8 players you could almost throw a blanket over them. I thought North wanted to trade down because they need a couple of Key position players and with pick 2 it's wasted when you have to pick the best player available which will be a Midfielder and you have plenty of them.

It looks like it will be very similar to the 2019 draft where there is No Champion but plenty of A-B graders in the Top 20.

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Rowell or Anderson would be pick 1 in this draft. I would not be expecting rowell's rookie year from anyone this year.
We will have heaps of 123k quality I doubt it's worth paying 200k +
If North get the same quality at 9ish why not trade 2 and get more assets.

 

[Deadly6]

I do agree about there being No standout Pick 1 this year and the first 7-8 players you could almost throw a blanket over them. I thought North wanted to trade down because they need a couple of Key position players and with pick 2 it's wasted when you have to pick the best player available which will be a Midfielder and you have plenty of them.

It looks like it will be very similar to the 2019 draft where there is No Champion but plenty of A-B graders in the Top 20.

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Hayden Young or Caleb Serong would have been handy for Adelaide

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Rowell or Anderson would be pick 1 in this draft. I would not be expecting rowell's rookie year from anyone this year.
We will have heaps of 123k quality I doubt it's worth paying 200k +
If North get the same quality at 9ish why not trade 2 and get more assets.

I think realistically the only team that North will be able trade pick 2 with is the Tigers.
Blues have pick 3
Crows have pick 4
Dees 5&9
Saints 7&8

If the Tigers were to do a pick swap they hold all the cards and I doubt they will trade out 6. So probably the best you could do would be maybe 18 & 20 for pick 2.

 

[buttox]

I think realistically the only team that North will be able trade pick 2 with is the Tigers.
Blues have pick 3
Crows have pick 4
Dees 5&9
Saints 7&8

If the Tigers were to do a pick swap they hold all the cards and I doubt they will trade out 6. So probably the best you could do would be maybe 18 & 20 for pick 2.

Yeah I'd just keep it then.
We could grab fos for a wing.
Kerch and fos on the wings would be posh.
I'm not super fazed about the draft we have most of our kids already the experience was what we needed.
Happy to just see how we go as is.
Our list guys seemed to think we could land a top 6 pick and a f1 for 2 a few weeks ago. That would be interesting

 

[TryAnHit]

Hayden Young or Caleb Serong would have been handy for Adelaide

Flanders. Pickett. Day also