21st century Mock Draft

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So this is my thinking. I am thinking this could be an all encompassing 21st century mock draft. This is we line up every player drafted in the 21st century as an 18 year old, knowing the players they became and we decide who goes where.

For the draft order I am thinking the current ladder

So

Pick 1 - North Melbourne
Pick 2 - Richmond
Pick 3 - West Coast
Pick 4 - Adelaide
Pick 5 - St Kilda
Pick 6 - Brisbane
Pick 7 - Hawthorn
Pick 8 - Western Bulldogs
Pick 9 - Melbourne
Pick 10 - Gold Coast
Pick 11 - GWS
Pick 12 - Fremantle
Pick 13 - Collingwood
Pick 14 - Geelong
Pick 15 - Port Adelaide
Pick 16 - Essendon
Pick 17 - Carlton
Pick 18 - Sydney

and so on for 3 rounds.

The rules are to treat this like an actual mock draft, so pick the player who is either best available or best suits your list.

So my general idea is people will nominate a club they want to pick for, and hopefully we get enough people who want to participate so we don't have any double ups. I hope to go for 3 rounds but we will see how it goes.

Now the rule here is that you are only able to pick players who were drafted in the 2000 draft or later, I know technically 2000 is not the 21st century but these players would have only started playing in 2001 which is the 21st century. I have also made some lists of players who have won the All Australian at least 3 times, but also included some other awards too, but by no means do you only need to select from the list.

You are also free to nominate someone who has been retired for 5 years, or if you feel really confident, happy to include a player who is only in their second year, if you believe they have enough talent to be ahead of more established players. For instance it would not surprise me if Nick Daicos or Harley Reid end up in the first or second rounds despite having very little experience compared to a lot of players on this list.

So here we go

Key Forwards
8 – Lance Franklin | 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018
5 - Tom Hawkins | 2012, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022
5 - Nick Riewoldt | 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2014
3 - Jeremy Cameron | 2013, 2019, 2022
3 - Josh Kennedy | 2015, 2016, 2017
3 - Jack Riewoldt | 2010, 2015, 2018

Key Defenders
5 - Alex Rance | 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018
4 - Jeremy McGovern | 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019

Ruckmen
6 - Dean Cox | 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012
6 - Max Gawn | 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022
4 - Aaron Sandilands | 2008, 2009, 2010, 2014
3 - Nick Naitanui | 2012, 2020, 2021

Midfielder
8 – Gary Ablett Jr. | 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
8 – Patrick Dangerfield | 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020
6 - Chris Judd | 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
6 - Joel Selwood | 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017
6 - Scott Pendlebury | 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2019
5 - Dane Swan | 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
5 - Marcus Bontempelli | 2016, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023
4 - Dustin Martin | 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020
4 - Christian Petracca | 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023
3 - Clayton Oliver | 2018, 2021, 2022
3 - Patrick Cripps | 2018, 2019, 2022
3 - Travis Boak | 2013, 2014, 2020
3 - Josh Kennedy | 2012, 2014, 2016
3 - Sam Mitchell | 2011, 2013, 2015

Other Defenders
5 - Tom Stewart | 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023
3 - Luke Hodge | 2005, 2008, 2010

Other Forwards
4 - Cyril Rioli | 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015
3 - Eddie Betts | 2015, 2016, 2017
3 - Tom Greene | 2016, 2021, 2023
3 - Robby Grey | 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018

Coleman Medal
4 - Lance Franklin | 2008, 2011, 2014, 2017
3 - Jack Riewoldt | 2010, 2012, 2018
2 - Josh Kennedy | 2015, 2016
2 - Charlie Curnow | 2022, 2023
1 - Tom Hawkins | 2021
1 - Jeremy Carmeron | 2019
1 - Jarryd Roughead | 2013

Norm Smith Medal
3 - Dustin Martin | 2017, 2019, 2020
2 - Luke Hodge | 2008, 2014

Brownlow Medal
2 - Gary Ablett Jnr | 2009, 2013
2 - Nate Fyfe | 2015, 2019
2 - Lachie Neale | 2020, 2023
2 - Chris Judd | 2004, 2010

If I have missed anyone who has 3 All Australians or more feel very free to tell me.

For anyone who wants to refresh their memories

en.wikipedia.org

All-Australian team - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

List of Brownlow Medal winners - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Norm Smith Medal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org


North Melbourne Sphynx
Richmond reggie
West Coast ArdentEagle
Adelaide eth-dog
St Kilda Mr Meow
Brisbane eth-dog
Hawthorn Guardian Hawk
Western Bulldogs PhoenixBonez
Melbourne MarcMaverick
Gold Coast WilloTree
GWS boncer34
Fremantle Purple7x08_24
Collingwood Fadge
Geelong Lingsface
Port Adelaide whatwhatsaywhat
Essendon RedmanWasHere
Carlton MC Bad Genius
Sydney theasian

If anyone wants to be assigned a specific team please say so. Lets see if this works :p

and so far

Pick 1 - North Melbourne - Lance Franklin
Pick 2 - Richmond - Gary Ablett Jnr
Pick 3 - West Coast - Max Gawn
Pick 4 - Adelaide - Chris Judd
Pick 5 - St Kilda - Patrick Dangerfield
Pick 6 - Brisbane - Dean Cox
Pick 7 - Hawthorn - Nick Riewoldt
Pick 8 - Western Bulldogs - Marcus Bontempelli
Pick 9 - Melbourne - Dustin Martin
Pick 10 - Gold Coast - Josh Kennedy (KPF)
Pick 11 - GWS - Alex Rance
Pick 12 - Fremantle - Charlie Curnow
Pick 13 - Collingwood - Joel Selwood
Pick 14 - Geelong - Nate Fyfe
Pick 15 - Port Adelaide - Tom Stewart
Pick 16 - Essendon - Mark Coughlan
Pick 17 - Carlton - Aaron Sandilands
Pick 18 - Sydney - Brian Lake

Round 2
Pick 19 - North Melbourne - Scott Pendlebury
Pick 20 - Richmond - Jeremy Cameron
Pick 21 - West Coast - Luke Hodge
Pick 22 - Adelaide - Brodie Grundy
Pick 23 - St Kilda - Dane Swan
Pick 24 - Brisbane - Harry Taylor
Pick 25 - Hawthorn - Christian Petracca
Pick 26 - Western Bulldogs - Jeremy McGovern
Pick 27 - Melbourne - Jack Riewoldt
Pick 28 - Gold Coast - Shannon Hurn
Pick 29 - GWS - Jaryd Roughead
Pick 30 - Fremantle - Brendon Goddard
Pick 31 - Collingwood - Tom Hawkins
Pick 32 - Geelong- Zach Merrett
Pick 33 - Port Adelaide - Tom Lynch
Pick 34 - Essendon - Ben McEvoy
Pick 35 - Carlton - Stephen Milne
Pick 36 - Sydney - Taylor Walker

Round 3
Pick 37 - North Melboune - Steve Johnson
Pick 38 - Richmond - Nic Naitanui
Pick 39 - West Coast - Cyril Rioli
Pick 40 - Adelaide - Michael Hurley
Pick 41 - St Kilda - Toby Greene
Pick 42 - Brisbane - Andrew Mackie
Pick 43 - Hawthorn - Harris Andrews
Pick 44 - Western Bulldogs - Eddie Betts
Pick 45 - Melbourne - Lachie Neale
Pick 46 - Gold Coast - Harley Reid
Pick 47 - GWS - Nick Daicos
Pick 48 - Fremantle - Leigh Montagna
Pick 49 - Collingwood - Jacob Weitering
Pick 50 - Geelong - Daniel Kerr
Pick 51 - Port Adelaide - Kysaiah Pickett
Pick 52 - Essendon - Drew Petrie
Pick 53 - Carlton - Nick Blakey
Pick 54 - Sydney - Sam Mitchell

Round 4
Pick 55 - North Melbourne - Darcy Moore
Pick 56 - Richmond - Jimmy Bartel
Pick 57 - West Coast - Patrick Cripps
Pick 58 - Adelaide - Luke Breust
Pick 59 - St Kilda - Shaun Burgoyne
Pick 60 - Brisbane - Steele Sidebottom
Pick 61 - Hawthorn - Steven May
Pick 62 - Western Bulldogs - Josh Gibson
Pick 63 - Melbourne - Mark Blitcavs
Pick 64 - Gold Coast - Michael Walters
Pick 65 - GWS - Bradley Hill
Pick 66 - Fremantle - Izak Rankine
Pick 67 - Collingwood - Josh Kennedy (mid)
Pick 68 - Geelong - Joe Daniher
Pick 69 - Port Adelaide - Clayton Oliver
Pick 70 - Essendon - Daniel Talia
Pick 71 - Carlton - Sam Taylor
Pick 72 - Sydney - Robbie Gray
 
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Sphynx said:
Because there's some absolute greats already picked and we are barely 35 picks in?

Is Taylor in the best 35 players of the last 25 years? No way imo.

Great young player but the likes of Rance, Taylor, McGovern, Stewart are well ahead of him before even getting to forwards, mids etc.


I'm not sure what others opinions are, but I'm happy to do 20+ rounds tbh if people are willing.
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40 odd would do me fine.
 
Pick 45

Lachie Neale.

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Pick 47 - Nick Daicos

After adding to our KPD stocks at both ends it's time to add some outside run. Daicos uncontested style will add a real point of difference to our midfield.
 
Sphynx said:
Because there's some absolute greats already picked and we are barely 35 picks in?

Is Taylor in the best 35 players of the last 25 years? No way imo.

Great young player but the likes of Rance, Taylor, McGovern, Stewart are well ahead of him before even getting to forwards, mids etc.


I'm not sure what others opinions are, but I'm happy to do 20+ rounds tbh if people are willing.
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I think there has been some talk of doing this but as a seperate thread after this is done.
Not much point drafting to club needs if you’re picking a team from scratch anyway, would have changed some picks I think.
 
PIck 48

Hard gut running midfielder with goal sense

Leigh Montagna

Fadge
 
With Pick 49 in the 21st Century Mock Draft, the Collingwood Football Club select Jacob Weitering.

A former number 1 draft pick, Weitering is already a multiple club best and fairest winner, and whilst never been selected in the final team, he has been selected in the All Australian squad on four occasions. The Carlton faithful will assure you he should already have at least two AA guernseys to hid name already.

Weitering is the perfect fit for Collingwood, who unfortunately lost Nathan Murphy prematurely and will complement Darcy Moore and the likes of Quaynor, Maynard and Noble for years to come.

Premierships are built on defence and leadership, and will be a fantastic addition to the club with our other recruits Joel Selwood and Tom Hawkins.

Weitering in a Collingwood guernsey? Glorious.
 
Guardian Hawk said:
3 rounds are nearly up. Have we decided if we're doing 3, 4 or 5 rounds? (before we do the 'from scratch" version)
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I think we can either go to the end of the 3rd round and possibly do a 4th if people are keen, but after that the new "starting from scratch" team which likely will be quite different.

I also nominate Sydney for my team in your thread, I am already thinking of strategies for drafting :p
 

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RUNVS said:
I think we can either go to the end of the 3rd round and possibly do a 4th if people are keen, but after that the new "starting from scratch" team which likely will be quite different.

I also nominate Sydney for my team in your thread, I am already thinking of strategies for drafting :p
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I was hoping 4 rounds - gives us sufficient opportunity to plug through holes and there are still plenty of superstars still available.
 
Fadge said:
I was hoping 4 rounds - gives us sufficient opportunity to plug through holes and there are still plenty of superstars still available.
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Yes I think 4 rounds is good too.

I really do like the idea of imagining real world drafts rather than "who are the best players of the 21st century" as I think framing it around a real world draft helps focus things better, helps people realise what players are actually more important.

For instance I am not sure how many people would have Brian Lake in their best 20 players of the 21st Century, but here it is very reasonable that he has gone in there.
 
RUNVS said:
Yes I think 4 rounds is good too.

I really do like the idea of imagining real world drafts rather than "who are the best players of the 21st century" as I think framing it around a real world draft helps focus things better, helps people realise what players are actually more important.

For instance I am not sure how many people would have Brian Lake in their best 20 players of the 21st Century, but here it is very reasonable that he has gone in there.
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Franklin is #1 in every scenario. KPFs will be hot in demand early
 
RUNVS said:
Agreed. A lot of people have Ablett Jnr as the better player (a fair argument can be made) but in the real world Buddy would get picked over Ablett every day of the week.
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Im assuming its a simulation and all players in their prime
 
Guardian Hawk said:
3 rounds are nearly up. Have we decided if we're doing 3, 4 or 5 rounds? (before we do the 'from scratch" version)
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Also for your version are we assuming all players are drafted at 18 and develop, or all players are drafted in their prime?

I am personally hoping for the former as it rewards players who had long careers at a high level rather than players that only saw their peak for a couple of seasons.
 
RUNVS said:
Also for your version are we assuming all players are drafted at 18 and develop, or all players are drafted in their prime?

I am personally hoping for the former as it rewards players who had long careers at a high level rather than players that only saw their peak for a couple of seasons.
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I feel like going for more of a simulation of which team wins in their prime
 
Purple7x08_24 said:
I feel like going for more of a simulation of which team wins in their prime
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I think Dustin Martin is heavily affected by this. His best was easily top 5 in the 21st Century but he took years and years to get there, only peaked for 4 or 5 seasons and then dipped again. If you take his entire career into consideration he isn't in the top 5, but if you only take his peak then he is.
 
Update of each team's picks so far (makes it a bit easier to visualising where the picks are plugging into each team):

North Melbourne - Lance Franklin, Scott Pendlebury, Steve Johnson
Richmond - Gary Ablett Jnr, Jeremy Cameron, Nic Naitanui
West Coast - Max Gawn, Luke Hodge, Cyril Rioli
Adelaide - Chris Judd, Brodie Grundy, Michael Hurley
St Kilda - Patrick Dangerfield, Dane Swan, Toby Greene
Brisbane - Dean Cox, Harry Taylor, Andrew Mackie
Hawthorn - Nick Riewoldt, Christian Petracca, Harris Andrews
Western Bulldogs - Marcus Bontempelli, Jeremy McGovern, Eddie Betts
Melbourne - Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Lachie Neale
Gold Coast - Josh Kennedy (KPF), Shannon Hurn, Harley Reid
GWS - Alex Rance, Jaryd Roughead, Nick Daicos
Fremantle - Charlie Curnow, Brendon Goddard, Leigh Montagna
Collingwood - Joel Selwood, Tom Hawkins, Jacob Weitering
Geelong - Nate Fyfe, Zach Merrett, Daniel Kerr
Port Adelaide - Tom Stewart, Tom Lynch
Essendon - Mark Coughlan, Ben McEvoy
Carlton - Aaron Sandilands, Stephen Milne
Sydney - Brian Lake, Taylor Walker
 
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RUNVS said:
Also for your version are we assuming all players are drafted at 18 and develop, or all players are drafted in their prime?

I am personally hoping for the former as it rewards players who had long careers at a high level rather than players that only saw their peak for a couple of seasons.
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I think the assumption is you are drafting them when they were drafted (which is why when the Tony Lockett of 2001 was selected - you'd get the 36 year old, 2001 version of Tony Lockett whereas if you draft Franklin, you are getting the 18 year old, 2004 version). Thus, you are judging them on their whole career and their total output.

In answer to Purple though, when you look at a team sheet of named players to form an assessment, you are not doing so by looking at them as 18 year olds in isolation. You are assessing the totality of who they are as a player (their prime and everything else they did or didn't produce) - just as you do when you are assessing a team of the century, team of the decade, etc.

(Otherwise, you'll end up rating someone like John Anthony highly based on that single season he kicked 50 goals (higher than Cyril Rioli's best season for example) rather than look at them as total players where obviously Anthony was no good (and Cyril a significant contributor)).
 
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Mr Meow said:
Update of each team's picks so far (makes it a bit easier to visualising where the picks are plugging into each team):

North Melbourne - Lance Franklin, Scott Pendlebury, Steve Johnson
Richmond - Gary Ablett Jnr, Jeremy Cameron, Nic Naitanui
West Coast - Max Gawn, Luke Hodge, Cyril Rioli
Adelaide - Chris Judd, Brodie Grundy, Michael Hurley
St Kilda - Patrick Dangerfield, Dane Swan, Toby Greene
Brisbane - Dean Cox, Harry Taylor, Andrew Mackie
Hawthorn - Nick Riewoldt, Christian Petracca, Harris Andrews
Western Bulldogs - Marcus Bontempelli, Jeremy McGovern, Eddie Betts
Melbourne - Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Lachie Neale
Gold Coast - Josh Kennedy (KPF), Shannon Hurn, Harley Reid
GWS - Alex Rance, Jaryd Roughead, Nick Daicos
Fremantle - Charlie Curnow, Brendon Goddard, Leigh Montagna
Collingwood - Joel Selwood, Tom Hawkins, Jacob Weitering
Geelong - Nate Fyfe, Zach Merrett
Port Adelaide - Tom Stewart, Tom Lynch
Essendon - Mark Coughlan, Ben McEvoy
Carlton - Aaron Sandilands, Stephen Milne
Sydney - Brian Lake, Taylor Walker
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Based on list needs I think Collingwood is doing super well there. I mean everyone is doing well, well mostly as there is one questionable team there, but I think Collingwood is winning. Their selections just fill such obvious needs.
 

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