Player Watch #34: Jack Graham - Weighing Up Free Agency Move To WCE

[T4P]

Because if you have a culture where the individuals put the club and team second, you can't have success. As a supporter, like most, putting the club first is my line in the sand.

Are you going to follow the player to another club? Or follow Richmond?

Both - there are plenty of circumstances that give rise to a good reason to leave, and I don't know the details of their experience, so I believe it is worth giving players benefit of the doubt, and wish success to them. Leaving isn't always putting the team second.

 

[Madtiger2006]

So we’re getting the next Reid, Daicos and Sheezel in the one draft. 3 ready made stars. Top 4 in 2025

 

[TigerImposter]

I am saying all contracts are two way agreements that are always subject to renegotiation over time.

You're clearly very set in your ways, but I will nonetheless elaborate by testing your boundaries

At what point is it appropriate for an employee to throw loyalty out of the window? An extreme example - if an employer treats an employee like s*** because they believe they have control over them because of the contract then is an employee entitled to not be loyal or try and change the situation?

This is irrelevant as it’s not what we did to Graham. I think Graham has been actually disrespectful to the RFC.

 

[beema limapep]

Both - there are plenty of circumstances that give rise to a good reason to leave, and I don't know the details of their experience, so I believe it is worth giving players benefit of the doubt, and wish success to them. Leaving isn't always putting the team second.

Often it is. Which supporters don't have to like. That's their choice.

 

[T4P]

Often it is. Which supporters don't have to like. That's their choice.

Sure, but not liking it doesn't mean you have to judge the bloke. You have no idea what being in his position is like.

If he has received in person the kind of criticism he gets on here, I would be fully supportive of him choosing to leave.

 

[T4P]

This is irrelevant as it’s not what we did to Graham. I think Graham has been actually disrespectful to the RFC.

You don't know for sure.

The bloke played through a significant shoulder injury to help get us to a grand final. It is fairly safe to assume that he has been far more respectful than disrespectful over the years.

He's done more to contribute to three flags than he has done to prevent other success

 

[voorhees]

Sure, but not liking it doesn't mean you have to judge the bloke. You have no idea what being in his position is like.

If he has received in person the kind of criticism he gets on here, I would be fully supportive of him choosing to leave.

'his position' is being a average footballer who is injured often and highly payed.
Most Australians would love to be in his position

 

[TigerImposter]

You don't know for sure.

The bloke played through a significant shoulder injury to help get us to a grand final. It is fairly safe to assume that he has been far more respectful than disrespectful over the years.

He's done more to contribute to three flags than he has done to prevent other success

He got that shoulder injury during the game and was never going to play the following week so he may have been instructed to leave it out there. We don’t know , but we do know that he tried to leave whilst contracted and then came crawling back. It’s looking like history could repeat itself.

 

[T4P]

'his position' is being a average footballer who is injured often and highly payed.
Most Australians would love to be in his position

Most Australians have no idea what being in his position is like.

Most Australians don't have strangers attacking and criticising them anonymously online.

 

[Danog]

Most Australians have no idea what being in his position is like.

Most Australians don't have strangers attacking and criticising them anonymously online.

What do you mean? I have to deal with the shit spouting out of Tigerbob tigs2010 Morro And richoatthedisco daily

 

[voorhees]

Most Australians have no idea what being in his position is like.

Most Australians don't have strangers attacking and criticising them anonymously online.

if one doesn't want the criticism
don't sigh a contract to be a professional sportsman.
until then, it's fair gain.

 

[Boston tiger]

if one doesn't want the criticism
don't sigh a contract to be a professional sportsman.
until then, it's fair gain.

In your wonderful world maybe.


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[richoatthedisco]

What do you mean? I have to deal with the shit spouting out of Tigerbob tigs2010 Morro And richoatthedisco daily

 

[Meteoric Rise]

If Jack Graham

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Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

is so bad, then why from 2021 onwards has the team won more often when he has played than when he has missed?

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

If Jack Graham is so bad, then why from 2021 onwards has the team won more often when he has played than when he has missed?

Has he made much difference when Tom Lynch is out lol

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Has he made much difference when Tom Lynch is out lol

Graham has one of the tidier with and without records in the team over the last 4 years, which includes periods with and without Lynch for all players.

 

[tigerfan1961]

Respect is 2 way. Graham needs to know where his place is, RFC don’t want him and he’ll hinder us if he stays from selfishness.

Yeah right, RFC don’t want him? Hasn’t the club offered him a 4 year deal?

 

[Grrr]

Graham has one of the tidier with and without records in the team over the last 4 years, which includes periods with and without Lynch for all players.

Played 13 games for 13 losses this year, sort of skews the stats somewhat.

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

Graham has one of the tidier with and without records in the team over the last 4 years, which includes periods with and without Lynch for all players.

If we won - it hasn't got much to do with JG

He's your role player, not your superstar that changes games. He will have a good game if everyone around him is having a great game.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

If we won - it hasn't got much to do with JG

He's your role player, not your superstar that changes games. He will have a good game if everyone around him is having a great game.

If we won it had to do with how all players execute their roles.

 

[captain blood 17]

What a load of crap as what's on that podcast is often more wrong than right. So some poster on a podcast says something and you sign off on it as being gospel? What absolute nonsense. It's not on the RFC website so in your own words it's not official. lol JGTI has BEEN OFFERED a deal dude so again you're talking shit. All you're doing is adding irrelevant information with no substance, let alone evidence of truth. All its doing is making you look stupid bc it's contradictory to what is unfolding. Again another bullshit story on that podcast as Tig71 told us all a month ago JGTI was GOING and he was 100% certain by the way he carried on. So how did the RFC FXXK UP as you were saying earlier ? You're just making shit up and bringing in crap to muddy the waters as it's all he said, she said flimsy bull shit.

Mate, seriously, no, we asked him to explore his options. We weren't banking on losing Baker, Bolton and Rioli. Club backtracked and then offered a greater offer to Graham. The club stuffed up. It's not that hard to understand. And it was Groc that discussed it. You're the one saying Graham is a mercenary. It couldn't be further from the truth. You're like a shot gun or a dude with diahrea. You just spray shit everywhere in every thread. It's honestly impressive how wrong you are in every thread.

 

[captain blood 17]

This is irrelevant as it’s not what we did to Graham. I think Graham has been actually disrespectful to the RFC.

Nah, we disrespected Graham telling him to look elsewhere earlier in the year. Guess what. He did.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Yeah right, RFC don’t want him? Hasn’t the club offered him a 4 year deal?

It’s a ploy to get good compo 100%

 

[beema limapep]

In your wonderful world maybe.


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Yeah the fans 'wonderful world'.

Average wages for fans whilst someone has the opportunity and priveledge of 1 in a 1,000,000 lifetimes to earn 5-10 x the living wage to play professional sport (no less for our club).

And the minute he wants to leave all the supporters are only allowed a positive opinion.

Nobody would try this on who doesn't know the player or isn't privileged.If you sign into probably the most scrutinised public industry in the country, it won't be all smooth sailing.

 

[partycorolla]

Mate, seriously, no, we asked him to explore his options. We weren't banking on losing Baker, Bolton and Rioli. Club backtracked and then offered a greater offer to Graham. The club stuffed up. It's not that hard to understand. And it was Groc that discussed it. You're the one saying Graham is a mercenary. It couldn't be further from the truth. You're like a shot gun or a dude with diahrea. You just spray shit everywhere in every thread. It's honestly impressive how wrong you are in every thread.

But we didn't offer him a deal after not offering him one at all. We originally offered one and then increased it.