Play Nice 46th President of the United States: Joe Biden 2: Incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim

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Lets be quite clear and this has been a consistent position of mine - if anyone has committed a crime - be they Republican or Democrat - then they should be brought before the courts and not hidden by pardons

I dont consider telling Trump no to be a crime

If as spinynorman was posting Fauci is involved with an incident then it should be investigated and if it meets the level of criminality then he should be prosecuted

But again telling a man baby no isnt a crime

Yet
 
Did Fauci commit a crime?
Thats what I'm asking you but you cant answer it

You know why he got the pre-emptive pardon - because Donny is a baby and will hound all those who said no to him for the rest of their lives
 
If he hasn't comitted any offence, why does he need a preemptive pardon?
I do not share your confidence in Trump’s commitment to due process. With all his utterances on the matter of vengeance and settling scores, where does your confidence come from?
 

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Lets be quite clear and this has been a consistent position of mine - if anyone has committed a crime - be they Republican or Democrat - then they should be brought before the courts and not hidden by pardons

I dont consider telling Trump no to be a crime

If as spinynorman was posting Fauci is involved with an incident then it should be investigated and if it meets the level of criminality then he should be prosecuted

But again telling a man baby no isnt a crime

Yet

I think you’ve misunderstood the tweet, it’s a joke. I get there’s nutters and it mightn’t always be apparent!
 
If he hasn't comitted any offence, why does he need a preemptive pardon?
It's the investigations that can bankrupt and ruin someone. Trump was going to hail Fauci in for congressional hearing after hearing to look for a crime to prosecute.

Even if they didn't find one, Fauci would still be ruined - financially and emotionally.

The pardon should make any investigation pointless.
 
The same place you get your confidence for due process when a republican is/was brought before court.
You want me to list the literally hundreds of instances of Trump attempting to subvert due process in every arena from local councils to the highest courts and then ask you to furnish equivalent evidence of any other US president in the last hundred years who has attempted the same even a hundredth as many times?

Or do we just agree that you’re either being disingenuous or completely ignorant of Trump’s record?
 
You want me to list the literally hundreds of instances of Trump attempting to subvert due process in every arena from local councils to the highest courts and then ask you to furnish equivalent evidence of any other US president in the last hundred years who has attempted the same even a hundredth as many times?

Or do we just agree that you’re either being disingenuous or completely ignorant of Trump’s record?

I'm not denying any of that, however do you honestly think due process wasn't followed in the trump case? My point is, you can't point at one side, when your preferred side also misuse legal proceedings.
 
Thats what I'm asking you but you cant answer it

You know why he got the pre-emptive pardon - because Donny is a baby and will hound all those who said no to him for the rest of their lives
Thats what the courts are for - to figure out if soneone commited a crime.

Can you not see that in pardoning Fauci, people are going to believe he is guilty of something?

Pretty sure the judges wont convict someone "because Donny is a baby"
 
I'm not denying any of that, however do you honestly think due process wasn't followed in the trump case? My point is, you can't point at one side, when your preferred side also misuse legal proceedings.
Which of the many hundreds of Trump legal cases are you referring to?

Of course I can point at one side, when no-one else abuses due process anywhere near so egregiously and relentlessly.

Trump supporters can't claim he's one of a kind, and then go all "both sides" the moment anyone agrees by pointing out how uniquely malignant he is.
 
Thats what the courts are for - to figure out if soneone commited a crime.

Can you not see that in pardoning Fauci, people are going to believe he is guilty of something?

Pretty sure the judges wont convict someone "because Donny is a baby"

I suspect Biden simply doesn't give a shit anymore.

A sad ending for someone who genuinely seemed to believe in democratic institutions, but the last 6 or so months seems to have really undermined that view to the point where he's just saying 'what does it even matter'?

Trump and his cronies have dozens if not hundreds of genuine criminal acts amongst them, and the voting public simply ignored it all. Being 'better' is worthless now, this is what Trump supporters voted for. They're just unhappy when people on the other side do the same dirty things Donald does.

The US political system is deeply broken.
 
4 years time maga will forget about their own complaints from the end of biden's term

i'm not sure why they have pardons anyway, it's like a final dick swing. good time for donnie to do away with it given current public opinion, but he does have his family to look after...
 

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