Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[jatz14]

What does 'woke shit' mean?

It's a bit unclear.

Stuff I don't like. Things I want my children to be ignorant about, because I'm raising fragile little flowers.

My kids went to a 'woke' school, it even had trans kids in it.

Strangely, they didn't question their identity because of this, or turn gay, or even be mildly bothered. I must have raised them wrong.

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[faible]

Stuff I don't like. Things I want my children to be ignorant about, because I'm raising fragile little flowers.

My kids went to a 'woke' school, it even had trans kids in it.

Strangely, they didn't question their identity because of this, or turn gay, or even be mildly bothered. I must have raised them wrong.

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I had gay kids at my school. I don't recall it being a woke school - if anything it was more the opposite - or a swathe of other kids becoming gay by association. Most of them just waited until they left school to come out since the school wasn't supportive of it even if the individual students were pretty OK with it.

 

[jatz14]

Not really.

However they do talk about the economy, business incetives low taxes, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the importance of the nuclear family and traditional family values, respect for law and order, protecting people and their propery, border protections





No they don't. They just reject the narrative that men who undergo medical procedures are really women, they wish to protect women's sports and rights to privacy, they wish to reduce illegl immigration and provide legal pathways for citizenship



Yes all of what I said above is what Trump is doing.



He's the Pres. He gets to pick who works for him.

Is their a Republican party I don't know about.

One that still pretends it cares about the economy?

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[jatz14]

haha. You think Kamala Harris was a merit based appointment as VP?

VP is a purely a political appointment, they are always appointed based on politics.

Secretary of Defence, not so much.

Even for you, this is an obvious stretch.

Better to have left it alone than show how much your struggling.

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[Gough]

Stuff I don't like. Things I want my children to be ignorant about, because I'm raising fragile little flowers.

My kids went to a 'woke' school, it even had trans kids in it.

Strangely, they didn't question their identity because of this, or turn gay, or even be mildly bothered. I must have raised them wrong.

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I was bombarded by heterosexual propaganda at school and it was the 80s too so you never heard the word gay without AIDS being used in the same sentence yet somehow I was never tempted to experiment with my sexuality. Teachers must be a shit load better than they were in my day if this is what modern kids are doing because of their lessons.

 

[jatz14]

I hate to disappoint you, but Mr, Miss and Mrs are all pronouns.

You've been using the whole time.

They think the left invented them within the last 10 years.

On the ball as always.

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[Saint]

They think the left invented them within the last 10 years.

On the ball as always.

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How about God insisting you capitalsie His pronouns?

Here's what will actually get passed by the Republicans, same as they always do.

They'll propose a massive tax cut for the rich (including corporate tax cuts), with assumed cuts to Govt spending. When it goes through Congress and the Senate, the GOP Congresspeople and Senators will reinstate half of the spending cuts and the deficit will sky rocket. It always does under Republicans. They'll blame it on the "deep state" as if they're not in charge of all three branches of Govt.

DOGE will be a failure, but again, they'll blame the deep state.

They'll impose tariffs which will spark a round of inflation. But it'll hit at the same time as corporate tax cuts boost the share market through share buybacks, so the economic indicators will be mixed. They'll talk about how great the Dow Jones and Nasdaq is doing, but not mention the impacts on cost of living. Tariffs (and retaliatory tariffs) will probably suppress actual economic growth and wage growth.

They'll make a big song and dance about deporting immigrants, but the numbers will barely change.

They will spend far more of their time doing tokenistic "anti-woke" stuff than the Dems ever did on "woke" stuff. Banning Trans people from all sorts of places (because banning gays doesn't fly any more).

I'm not sure they'll get anything else done before they lose the House in the mid-terms. Same as the first Trump Presidency. Congress blocked all the stupidest stuff and just made sure the tax cuts got through.

The only thing I'm not sure what will happen is who Trump will try to get annointed as the next GOP nominee for 2028. Will it be Ivanka or Don Junior? To keep the grift going, they announced the new Presidential campaign very soon after the previous two campaigns. That way they can take money through the campaign fund, washing corporate money into campaign salaries to the Trump kids. So I expect that to become quite clear in the first two years. It won't be Vance.

 

[faible]

DOGE will be a failure, but again, they'll blame the deep state.

On this, DOGE will be a failure at what it says it's going to do. But probably a raging success at funnelling public money in to private companies, it won't at all be for the benefit of the taxpayer.

 

[DickieKnee]

Wow ok, didn't realise the bar was that low

As vice president Harris oversaw the first-ever White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention and her work on maternal and infant health care was a key component of the Build Back Better Act, passed in 2022 expanding access to maternal care and makes new investments to drive down mortality and morbidity rates.

Imagine trying to pretend Pence did stuff but Harris didn't

They both did **** all mate, like every VP.

Best thing Pence did was ratify the 2020 election results in Congress while Trump was pressuring him to reject the result.

 

[NSWCROW]

Another one for the " it's ok when conservatives do it " file -

'dat outrage over Hunter Biden when Mayor McCheese pardoned these 3 worms

bannon - stone - flynn




THA' **** OUTTA HERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE * mafioso hand flick *

 

[Satan]

Another one for the " it's ok when conservatives do it " file -

'dat outrage over Hunter Biden when Mayor McCheese pardoned these 3 worms

bannon - stone - flynn




THA' **** OUTTA HERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE * mafioso hand flick *

and kushs dad

 

[Saint]

On this, DOGE will be a failure at what it says it's going to do. But probably a raging success at funnelling public money in to private companies, it won't at all be for the benefit of the taxpayer.

It will be so similar to all the other GOP attempts at privatising Government, but this time it will have loud idiots fronting it, rather than effective Government administrators.

If you told me Mitch McConnell was going to gut the public service, I would believe you. There'd be nary a word, but jobs would be cut everywhere.

These two buffoons who have no idea how Govt work will spend at least a year trying to figure stuff out (while they have other jobs, btw), they'll make outlandish statements like they already have, but achieve 3/5ths of bugger all except for sacking a bunch of entry-level ceremonial roles (equity advisors) and maybe privatising NASA for Musk's benefit and gutting/privatising/outsourcing the FDA for Ramaswamy. They will swiftly lose interest when they find that instead of ruling by dictators like they do in their own business that they'll need Congressional approval to do most of what they want and they will have no idea how to get it.

 

[Spearman]

As with most aspects of Trumpism, the assault on government has not come out of nowhere. For Republicans, this has been the direction of travel for decades. Ronald Reagan first made his political name in the mid-1960s with a rhetorical attack on government, which he kept on regurgitating until he won the presidency. “Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem,” became the most ringing line of his 1981 inaugural address.

After the Reagan Revolution came the 1994 Republican Revolution. It was led by Newt Gingrich, the party’s first House speaker in 40 years, whose anti-government bombast was even shriller. This history partly explains why Trump survived his role in the January 6 insurrection. Many Republicans viewed it not as an attack on democracy but as an attack on government: a Trump revolution.


Nick Bryant, a former BBC Washington correspondent, is author of The Forever War: America’s Unending Conflict with Itself.

Excellent article, snipped for those who's attention span for facts is short.

 

[Spearman]

It will be so similar to all the other GOP attempts at privatising Government, but this time it will have loud idiots fronting it, rather than effective Government administrators.

If you told me Mitch McConnell was going to gut the public service, I would believe you. There'd be nary a word, but jobs would be cut everywhere.

These two buffoons who have no idea how Govt work will spend at least a year trying to figure stuff out (while they have other jobs, btw), they'll make outlandish statements like they already have, but achieve 3/5ths of bugger all except for sacking a bunch of entry-level ceremonial roles (equity advisors) and maybe privatising NASA for Musk's benefit and gutting/privatising/outsourcing the FDA for Ramaswamy. They will swiftly lose interest when they find that instead of ruling by dictators like they do in their own business that they'll need Congressional approval to do most of what they want and they will have no idea how to get it.

optimistic maybe, except when they use tactics like 'acting' appointments to get around what little effectual Congress opposition there might be.

Let's see how hard Trump and MAGA go after any GOP voices of dissent in Congress. Most of them have already shown they don't have the courage or leadership to put themselves or their families under threat.

 

[bourbons]

Another one for the " it's ok when conservatives do it " file -

'dat outrage over Hunter Biden when Mayor McCheese pardoned these 3 worms

bannon - stone - flynn




THA' **** OUTTA HERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE * mafioso hand flick *

Yeah, pretty hilarious the smooth brains banging on about 'precedent' (hi Stokey! )

Precedent, **** me. Trump pardoned a family member 4 years ago and just installed him as ambassador to France

Nearly as funny as the "please tone down the extreme rhetoric" nonsense from Trumpers earlier this year.

 

[Satan]

Yeah, pretty hilarious the smooth brains banging on about 'precedent' (hi Stokey! )

Precedent, **** me. Trump pardoned a family member 4 years ago and just installed him as ambassador to France

Nearly as funny as the "please tone down the extreme rhetoric" nonsense from Trumpers earlier this year.

Was that before Trumps flesh wound?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

In what way has the Republican Party "radically transformed" over the last couple of decades?

Sorry, are you just playing dumb?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Looking on from a (thankfully large) distance it will be fascinating to see how this plays out and if they follow through what economic impacts it will have. It's like a science experiment in economics that we don't really see that much

Well the Septics have a long history of using other countries as their test tube for radical economics (Chile 1973 anyone?) but it's certainly novel for them to subject their own citizens to quite this degree.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

How about God insisting you capitalsie His pronouns?

Here's what will actually get passed by the Republicans, same as they always do.

They'll propose a massive tax cut for the rich (including corporate tax cuts), with assumed cuts to Govt spending. When it goes through Congress and the Senate, the GOP Congresspeople and Senators will reinstate half of the spending cuts and the deficit will sky rocket. It always does under Republicans. They'll blame it on the "deep state" as if they're not in charge of all three branches of Govt.

DOGE will be a failure, but again, they'll blame the deep state.

They'll impose tariffs which will spark a round of inflation. But it'll hit at the same time as corporate tax cuts boost the share market through share buybacks, so the economic indicators will be mixed. They'll talk about how great the Dow Jones and Nasdaq is doing, but not mention the impacts on cost of living. Tariffs (and retaliatory tariffs) will probably suppress actual economic growth and wage growth.

They'll make a big song and dance about deporting immigrants, but the numbers will barely change.

They will spend far more of their time doing tokenistic "anti-woke" stuff than the Dems ever did on "woke" stuff. Banning Trans people from all sorts of places (because banning gays doesn't fly any more).

I'm not sure they'll get anything else done before they lose the House in the mid-terms. Same as the first Trump Presidency. Congress blocked all the stupidest stuff and just made sure the tax cuts got through.

The only thing I'm not sure what will happen is who Trump will try to get annointed as the next GOP nominee for 2028. Will it be Ivanka or Don Junior? To keep the grift going, they announced the new Presidential campaign very soon after the previous two campaigns. That way they can take money through the campaign fund, washing corporate money into campaign salaries to the Trump kids. So I expect that to become quite clear in the first two years. It won't be Vance.

Brilliant stuff and sadly all rings very true.

 

[Blue1980]

The trick is to be in that 1%-its a growing number of people.

 

[Blue1980]

Brilliant stuff and sadly all rings very true.

It’s all worth it, to own the libs, apparently.

 

[Romeoh1]

What does 'woke shit' mean?

It's a bit unclear.

Meaningless-just a conservative dismissal of reasonable ideas so they don’t have to accept anything that is fair and decent as far as I can see.
They are essentially mean people.

 

[Spearman]

Sorry, are you just playing dumb?

Yeah he's quite the informed political enthusiast ain't he.
I guess good ol' Bob Dole and Dickhead Cheney were OG-MAGA.

 

[magpie_marty]

DonOld is off to France,
Such a church going man.

President-elect Donald J. Trump will travel to France on Saturday for the reopening of the historic Notre-Dame Cathedral five years after it was ravaged by a fire, his first foreign trip since last month’s election and a symbol of how quickly global leaders are turning the page on the Biden presidency.

Mr. Trump announced the trip on his online platform, Truth Social, calling it “an honor” to make public his plans to visit the “Magnificent and Historic” building. He credited President Emmanuel Macron of France with doing “a wonderful job ensuring that Notre Dame has been restored to its full level of glory, and even more so.”

Wonder if he will pay for traveling and accommodation?

 

[faible]

Wonder if he will pay for traveling and accommodation?

Surely you jest.