Analysis Adam Kelly is a fraud

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Strategic negotiations ? He surely did not pass it? He's just failed miserably. What a campaigner...
Do you remember David Noble's attendance at the Harvard Business School for the Dangerfield trade?
 
Ah.... there's the problem:

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It's not even a real qualification. It's a 5 day short course where Harvard milks people for money so they can put harvard on their resume

 
IIRC we were screwed by the rules on that one

this time, we did it to ourselves

Not really, we knew Geelong couldn't make an offer to Dangerfield that we weren't able to match because they were relying on under the table side deals to make it profitable for danger.

We had every tool we needed to extract maximum value and instead we accepted 'no you can't have our first round pick, we've promised to spend it on another trade'
 
Duh we were adamant about not giving him a long term deal, so deeeer I guess his manager told st Kilda and deeeerp that’s why they didn’t offer a band 1 contract, they knew we wouldn’t deeeeeeeeeer match the years.

Guess I need to watch more poker haw haw haw.

I'm sure Brad and his manager promised not to tell anyone this though. ;)
 

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My email to the club:

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Dear Fascist Bullyboys,

We went from
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to
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pretty quick!

Please tell whoever did this congratulations on making us a laughing stock, there's nothing funnier than watching someone talk tough and not back it up. I look forward to having all the other clubs remember our ability to fold under the slightest pressure.

Why do I stay a member? The administration of this club is a joke. And to think I thought, "yay, Nigel's gone!" just yesterday.

regards
Deaneus the Magnificent
Member 000002

p.s. please have the work experience kid explain to everyone how trading and the PSD works, before we give away pick 8 for Jackson Hately.
"dont worry deaneus. we plan to give up a 2nd rounder instead even though we know we can get him for nothing in the psd."

"we also dont just wanna be known as a family club but also a friendly club."
 
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I mean at the same time whats a better move?

1. Ok saints if you offer him 600k per year over 5 years we are not gonna match and he's yours.

2. We are gonna match unless it's a band 1 compo and try force the saints to up their offer (a total bluff)

Alot of EV in the 2nd one and 0 EV in the first one. I know which one I rather the club do. Sometimes you bluff and get caught.... it happens...
 
We got pick 23 for a player that only one other club made an offer too, has averaged 11 games a season, finished in our top 10 B&F once only, lacks leadership, doesnt prepare at an elite level and has a drug strike against him....

We really nees to stop over-rating Brad Crouch's worth

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I think you miss the point. I dont think that Brad was worth pick2. In fact I dont really give a shit about what he was worth. For me this is about Adam Kelly making a statement to everyone including us members saying that we will match if the compo isnt band 1 or pick 2. Because he dint back that up he has lost ALL credibility and from now on what ever he says will be treated by all of us as total bullshit.

This action only confirms that the club's management still hasn't learnt how to change the culture of the club and how to respect its members.

Again Iam not so pissed at the pick we got but I am so pissed at how the club has managed this process. Just unbelievable the saga continues.
 
I think you miss the point. I dont think that Brad was worth pick2. In fact I dont really give a sh*t about what he was worth. For me this is about Adam Kelly making a statement to everyone including us members saying that we will match if the compo isnt band 1 or pick 2. Because he dint back that up he has lost ALL credibility and from now on what ever he says will be treated by all of us as total bullshit.

This action only confirms that the club's management still hasn't learnt how to change the culture of the club and how to respect its members.

Again Iam not so pissed at the pick we got but I am so pissed at how the club has managed this process. Just unbelievable the saga continues.

What are they meant to do? We not gonna match so you can Lowball him and no chance of pick 2? Or try bluff our way to pick 2
 
What are they meant to do? We not gonna match so you can Lowball him and no chance of pick 2? Or try bluff our way to pick 2
What I would have expected from him is a different delivery on what they would do rather than making a definitive statement and then not back it up. Given what the club has gone through over the past 6 years (I am including Dangerfield trade) the last thing we needed was this type of performance.

Tell me what you would do if Kelly came up to you say during the trade period and started making bold statements. Would you listen to him. I would have if he had backed up his statement about pick 2 but right now any form of intimation from him is worth stuff all.

His action has made the club look stupid. Its embarrassing. If the Port supporters are laughing at us right now its what we deserve.

Anyway thats how I feel.
 
I’m sorry guys but this is worse than anything Trigg or Smart or Burton ever did. I had a fear this boy had L plates. Some of his comments were naive in the extreme.

Expecting Brads manager to show him all offers

I bet he didn’t even understand compo calculations.

What a fu** up.

this

being sneaky and trying to underhandly gain an advantage is one thing

being the work experience kid who doesn’t know how shit works Is way worse
 
We got pick 23 for a player that only one other club made an offer too, has averaged 11 games a season, finished in our top 10 B&F once only, lacks leadership, doesnt prepare at an elite level and has a drug strike against him....

We really nees to stop over-rating Brad Crouch's worth

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like you have any ****ing idea who he got offers from or interest off
 
We were never going to give a 5 year deal so why match a 5 year deal and cause another problem further down the track

The market set Brad's band 3 compo not AFC

AFC tried to create some tention prior to seeing the deal to increase StKilda offer, all clubs do this to try and improve a players worth

I know people rate Brad in here and I respect that however thw market didnt rate Brad as highly which reduces competitve tension, the compensation and your optiins

If Brad was Patrick Cripps and we got pick 23 for him ill be up in arms but then again Patrick Cripps wouldnt be getting a $600k contract offer from an opposition club next year

After parading himself as a $1m man the market has finally spoken and Brad finally found his true price point and his compensation pick reflects that worth determined by the market and the lack of genuine interest

Thank you AFC for not bowing to 5 years when no other club other than St Kilda were prepared to offer Brad a long term deal....

Now lets invest in more talented youth

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I'm really curious to see:

1) If the club responds in a meaningful way to any of the emails you guys have sent regarding this whole process,
2) How they word their responses, and
3) Who actually responds.

This Brad Crouch jazz has been a fiasco since the get-go.
 

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