Traded Adam Saad [traded to Carlton with #48 and #78 for #8 and #87]

[Skull Face]

Clever work chief.

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Lands his value at pick 13. Deal done, don't stuff it up Juddy.

27 + future 2nd lands his value at pick 11, better deal for the bombers and will be done. Everyone will be happy.

 

[Skull Face]

We'll give you 16 and 17 for Pick 7. Enjoy !

I'd do this just so Essendon can stop crying over pick 7,take 17 or we draft him using it either way we don't care we get Saad for pick 17.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

27 + future 2nd lands his value at pick 11, better deal for the bombers and will be done. Everyone will be happy.

Would rather do Saad and 3 third round picks for Pick 7, values Saad at a late second rounder so better deal for the Blues. Everyone will be happy with that too you'd think.

 

[BombersDave]

This reminds me of the Stringer trade really. Doggies wanted pick 11 (I think) because that's what the Bombers had. They kept refusing and Dodoro traded 11 to GWS for Smith with 25 coming back, Doggies end up with 25 and something else in the 20s. My opinion is we want 7 because that's what you have. If you trade the 7 for 2 later firsts we'll be after one of them instead. If you can't trade it for 2 later firsts I'd assume you would be giving 7 with something decent coming back from us. Can't see a trade not happening and it surely comes early given everything else the Bombers are trying to do.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

This reminds me of the Stringer trade really. Doggies wanted pick 11 (I think) because that's what the Bombers had. They kept refusing and Dodoro traded 11 to GWS for Smith with 25 coming back, Doggies end up with 25 and something else in the 20s. My opinion is we want 7 because that's what you have. If you trade the 7 for 2 later firsts we'll be after one of them instead. If you can't trade it for 2 later firsts I'd assume you would be giving 7 with something decent coming back from us. Can't see a trade not happening and it surely comes early given everything else the Bombers are trying to do.

GREAT post!!

ps welcome on board BF Dave

 

[TENACIOUS]

Only because Essendon supporter are so great and lovely forum members I will do it..
Essendon - Pick 7
Carlton - Saad and Pick 6

Plus I would wait until the last 5 minutes of trade period to do the deal Dodoro style

 

[Skull Face]

Would rather do Saad and 3 third round picks for Pick 7, values Saad at a late second rounder so better deal for the Blues. Everyone will be happy with that too you'd think.

There in lies the irrelevance of the point system. Adding an irrelevant pick like 45 that won't even be used is basically just asking for pick 7 in a straight swap.

Unfortunately for you guys you are shit out of luck, you need something for the players you are losing before you can trade in the likes of Caldwell and Dunkley.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Williams is a FA. We get him for free.
Nothing to do with pick 7 and not aligned with any pick at all.
It surely can’t be that hard to comprehend unless of course Essendon people believe Carlton people are STUPID and would fall for such idiotic comprehension. Dear or Dear...

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

There in lies the irrelevance of the point system. Adding an irrelevant pick like 45 that won't even be used is basically just asking for pick 7 in a straight swap.

Unfortunately for you guys you are sh*t out of luck, you need something for the players you are losing before you can trade in the likes of Caldwell and Dunkley.

We can trade in Caldwell without the Saad deal going ahead at all, so don't worry about us for that. The Dunkley deal will likely not get done unless we get something substantial from the Saad trade so trading him early for unders for the sake of trading him also doesn't help us.

It seems Carlton fans are obsessed with staying in the first round and Essendon will have an end first round pick coming back for Joe. Saad + that pick for 7 and a later pick may just be the best deal you get him for. Hopefully Carlton take the early trade offered to them before the JoeD pick goes to GWS for Caldwell.

 

[chelseacarlton]

Clearly said a 'net result'. If you guys said last year that the following season you could land Williams and Saad for pick 7, would you have taken it..?

No
Williams is a free agent, please point to where, how, why his name is raised in pick 7?

 

[chelseacarlton]

We can trade in Caldwell without the Saad deal going ahead at all, so don't worry about us for that. The Dunkley deal will likely not get done unless we get something substantial from the Saad trade so trading him early for unders for the sake of trading him also doesn't help us.

It seems Carlton fans are obsessed with staying in the first round and Essendon will have an end first round pick coming back for Joe. Saad + that pick for 7 and a later pick may just be the best deal you get him for. Hopefully Carlton take the early trade offered to them before the JoeD pick goes to GWS for Caldwell.

Stop pretending your club holds the balance of power on this trade.
He wants out, in fact, he’s gawwwwwn, you don’t hold all the cards, you’re not the dealer.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Stop pretending your club holds the balance of power on this trade.
He wants out, in fact, he’s gawwwwwn, you don’t hold all the cards, you’re not the dealer.

I posted a fair trade and didn't say anything about holding the power so there's no need to be salty about what I've written

 

[chelseacarlton]

I posted a fair trade and didn't say anything about holding the power so there's no need to be salty about what I've written

No friend, it’s the obnoxious tone of the “the best deal you can get for him...” I take umbrage with.
I hope we walk him to the draft, just to wipe the smirks off of all of your faces.
Bomber supporters have very short memories, poncing around as though the league gives a toss about you or other supporters.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

No friend, it’s the obnoxious tone of the “the best deal you can get for him...” I take umbrage with.
I hope we walk him to the draft, just to wipe the smirks off of all of your faces.
Bomber supporters have very short memories, poncing around as though the league gives a toss about you or other supporters.

There's no need to be upset dude

 

[bmaurizio]

Adam has walked and given a thump on the way out , an OOC player next week too.
Someone please enlighten me way how Saad‘s value is at p7 a former p35 in 2018 now 3 years older and with a few issues apparently , not a very strong position for the EFC.

 

[BomberARMY]

Adam has walked and given a thump on the way out , an OOC player next week too.
Someone please enlighten me way how Saad‘s value is at p7 a former p35 in 2018 now 3 years older and with a few issues apparently , not a very strong position for the EFC.

Think Saad and Co. gave the first 'thump' by automatically referring to going to the draft before any discussions between the clubs was had.. just for the record

 

[Skull Face]

We can trade in Caldwell without the Saad deal going ahead at all, so don't worry about us for that. The Dunkley deal will likely not get done unless we get something substantial from the Saad trade so trading him early for unders for the sake of trading him also doesn't help us.

It seems Carlton fans are obsessed with staying in the first round and Essendon will have an end first round pick coming back for Joe. Saad + that pick for 7 and a later pick may just be the best deal you get him for. Hopefully Carlton take the early trade offered to them before the JoeD pick goes to GWS for Caldwell.

Pretty sure Essendon can't trade their 1st round pick without getting another 1st round pick first, you need at least 1 of Saad or daniher to net you that or no you actually can't get Caldwell.

 

[chelseacarlton]

There's no need to be upset dude

Prepare to be..... da da daaaaaa

 

[Fridge16]

Adam has walked and given a thump on the way out , an OOC player next week too.
Someone please enlighten me way how Saad‘s value is at p7 a former p35 in 2018 now 3 years older and with a few issues apparently , not a very strong position for the EFC.

So when Dodoro gets pick 7 for Saad can we all celebrate just how amazing he is? Or will we just revert to "Hard to deal with"?

 

[Laphroaig]

Clever work chief.

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Lands his value at pick 13. Deal done, don't stuff it up Juddy.

Like stats, draft points can be manipulated to say fairly much anything.

Tell me that you don't really believe that makes sense in the real world.

 

[TheKITC]

We should have a bet that we will end up with a pick closer to 7 than Carlton come draft night?

So when Dodoro gets pick 7 for Saad can we all celebrate just how amazing he is? Or will we just revert to "Hard to deal with"?

I have said twice already in this thread that I will take any bet, from anyone that Saad does not get traded for Pick 7 outright.

Nobody has taken me up on it...

 

[bmaurizio]

So when Dodoro gets pick 7 for Saad can we all celebrate just how amazing he is? Or will we just revert to "Hard to deal with"?

If p7 is eventually involved there will be Saad and more , coming back to the Baggers without doubt.
Dodoro is no big deal, just as much a marionette to circumstance as any, will succumb as any other recruiter would, when there’s little other choice, alla Jack Martin

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[tipstar]

I can't really see all the uproar about pick 7?

Seems like its only being discussed due to its only live pick we have in the 1st....

It goes without saying that pick 7 will not be used by the Blues at this years draft, where it ends up should be more the matter for discussion.

More than likely this trade and pick 7 gets done with some extra moving parts in other deals for other players and picks, can everyone not see that??

 

[Fridge16]

I have said twice already in this thread that I will take any bet, from anyone that Saad does not get traded for Pick 7 outright.

Nobody has taken me up on it...

Nah you are right, not a chance we get pick 7 outright. I agree with you there.

 

[Fridge16]

If p7 is eventually involved there will be Saad and more , coming back to the Baggers without doubt.
Dodoro is no big deal, just as much a marionette to circumstance as any, will succumb as any other recruiter would, when there’s little other choice, alla Jack Martin

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Yeah it will definitely be Saad plus something else for pick 7.

Agree RE Dodoro, it's amazing how worked up people get over him but also the media feed it. I think he will aim for the best deal but i also think Carlton will pay fair value or a bit over considering they chased him as we will do with Dunkley. I don't think the PSD will come into it even though he is OOC, all that does is keep Dodoro honest / realistic, it doesn't mean Carlton will just be dogs about it.