Gtowncrow
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Roo was FD when this disaster occured. I think this matter is serious enough to act upon this alone.
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Yes, but Balme is a head of football (employee) and not a football director (part time volunteer on board)
His is not the same role as Roo
Balme’s equivalent is Adam Kelly (before then Burton & Noble)
Gtowncrow
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Or they were enthusiastic that Tex is going around again.
I think the target here is CW not our indigenous boys.
I don’t agree. I think they failed to quell the disgruntled who didn’t want to be mollified.
The problem with the idea that certain players weren’t listened to, is that they almost certainly were heard, they just had demands the club wasn’t prepared to meet.
I think these were small complaints, made by big personalities, underestimated by the key senior leaders.
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Knew this would come back to bite the club when it refused to take full account at the time and once again tried to downplay, deflect and cover up. It's Tippett all over again, the same stink lingers from the Trigg days. There is zero accountability at the highest levels of the club and you're all agitators if you take issue to the way they do things.
The club is there to raise the profiles and access of a select few, nothing has changed, you are still nothing more than customers with money in their eyes. If you want to change things, stop giving them your support and your money, I did, but I'm just one person. Truth is the club will never change because they know they have enough of you wrapped around their little fingers, they are completely abusing your passion for an SA club being in the AFL. When a club has a constitution which avoids fan accountability, this sort of camp-like wrong doing is inevitable and these scandals never stop even when eventually old faces leave and new face arrive.
Strap on in for the next major scandal at the AFC, which will be downplayed, deflected and covered up by their expert PR tactics. It's coming, it's inevitable when a club is run with no proper accountability of the hierarchy. But ignore all that, focus on the football, guys. Gotta support the team or something like that, it's not the player's fault or something like that. Hey, whatever distracts from holding hierarchal figures to account. And the premiership-less cycle continues with periods of reprieve between scandals to restore your shaken faith, over and over again...
The club is there to raise the profiles and access of a select few, nothing has changed, you are still nothing more than customers with money in their eyes. If you want to change things, stop giving them your support and your money, I did, but I'm just one person. Truth is the club will never change because they know they have enough of you wrapped around their little fingers, they are completely abusing your passion for an SA club being in the AFL. When a club has a constitution which avoids fan accountability, this sort of camp-like wrong doing is inevitable and these scandals never stop even when eventually old faces leave and new face arrive.
Strap on in for the next major scandal at the AFC, which will be downplayed, deflected and covered up by their expert PR tactics. It's coming, it's inevitable when a club is run with no proper accountability of the hierarchy. But ignore all that, focus on the football, guys. Gotta support the team or something like that, it's not the player's fault or something like that. Hey, whatever distracts from holding hierarchal figures to account. And the premiership-less cycle continues with periods of reprieve between scandals to restore your shaken faith, over and over again...
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I’m not surprised Malcolm thinks this is how boards work as he sat on a board that had the same unaccountable structure as Adelaide’s. Gold Coast’s board doesn’t answer to its members either.
Nobody’s arguing the board should’ve known what flavour of ice cream the players were eating at the camp dessert bar.
Members are incensed because in 2018 the message from the club, from the chairman down to the boot studder, was that there was nothing to see here.
Then they had the infamous “this isn’t about the camp but we’ll take questions about the camp” press conference that admitted the camp failed but persisted with the nothing to see here narrative.
You can go back and look at threads from 2018 to see how mad so many of us were back then. We were mad because the club was in unison on this fraudulent response, from the board downwards, and we KNEW it was bullshit.
Now, as I’ve said before, if there is evidence that some of these board members were as mad as we were, and attempted to get the club to change course on this disgusting sequence of events, I’m more than happy to consider it.
I am almost certain it doesn’t exist, and members know deep down it doesn’t exist, because they know what happened in 2018 was vintage Adelaide Football Club. It was entirely consistent with the board and the club’s pedigree.
Nobody’s arguing the board should’ve known what flavour of ice cream the players were eating at the camp dessert bar.
Members are incensed because in 2018 the message from the club, from the chairman down to the boot studder, was that there was nothing to see here.
Then they had the infamous “this isn’t about the camp but we’ll take questions about the camp” press conference that admitted the camp failed but persisted with the nothing to see here narrative.
You can go back and look at threads from 2018 to see how mad so many of us were back then. We were mad because the club was in unison on this fraudulent response, from the board downwards, and we KNEW it was bullshit.
Now, as I’ve said before, if there is evidence that some of these board members were as mad as we were, and attempted to get the club to change course on this disgusting sequence of events, I’m more than happy to consider it.
I am almost certain it doesn’t exist, and members know deep down it doesn’t exist, because they know what happened in 2018 was vintage Adelaide Football Club. It was entirely consistent with the board and the club’s pedigree.
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I think that's 100% true.
The club management (right or wrong) felt that some players were mentally weak and wanted the camp to challenge them. Some players then complained about the what they want through at the camp.
The club's error was hearing that and thinking "well, OF COURSE you would feel that way - this is why we DID the camp."
They weren't ever covering up something they felt was bad - they just genuinely didn't believe the disgruntled players had a right to feel that way. They had a "suck it up, princess" style response to the complaints.
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I can’t believe people think it wasn’t covered up. It doesn’t have to be the Watergate scandal. Nobody’s saying Rob Chapman was behind the scenes twisting his moustache trying to figure out how to lie to members.
But in the quest for damage control he did lie to members and his board led a club that produced a public narrative that was such a colossal failure the club is still dealing with the fallout four and a half years later.
The camp was nothing you wouldn’t do at a workplace seminar. We have a happy playing group. There are no lingering issues!
These were abject, provable lies told to members from the top down — a nice glob of mayo on top of the incompetent staff who ran the football department into the ground.
I’m just not sure on what planet people believe those board members shouldn’t be accountable for these outcomes.
But in the quest for damage control he did lie to members and his board led a club that produced a public narrative that was such a colossal failure the club is still dealing with the fallout four and a half years later.
The camp was nothing you wouldn’t do at a workplace seminar. We have a happy playing group. There are no lingering issues!
These were abject, provable lies told to members from the top down — a nice glob of mayo on top of the incompetent staff who ran the football department into the ground.
I’m just not sure on what planet people believe those board members shouldn’t be accountable for these outcomes.
Could be a good role for Balme if he wants to come back home to Adelaide in his retirement.
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It still baffles me after all this time all this controversy, it boils down to two players who had their personal information mis used.
Don't get me wrong, that is woeful and should never have happened.
But how it's still going on after all this time is astounding. The cover up is always worse than the crime
Don't get me wrong, that is woeful and should never have happened.
But how it's still going on after all this time is astounding. The cover up is always worse than the crime
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When you put it like that, Fellows needs to be the first one gone from the board. Integrity my arse.
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Were they connected ?
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Is this fact or just rumour?
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Both the clubs are controlled by the AFL.
Until the AFL releases its hold in 2028 as per the Constitution, the board will continue to remain unaccountable to the members other than the two voices on the board who we are able to vote for. The problem with this, is the sheep that is our members will always vote for one of our ex-players, currently Rod Jameson.
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You do understand the irony with Linda Fellows - Linda being the Assistant Commissioner (Operations Support) SA Police and Board Member Crimestoppers!
Previously held
- Officer in Charge - Ethical & Professional Standards Branch
- Officer in Charge - Drug Investigation Branch
Linda is certainly qualified as Deputy Chairman.
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The club correctly identified that mental weakness was an issue. They just went about remedying that in the worst way possible. There seems to have been absolutely no introspection done by the coaching group either. They put it all on the players.
And yet a key part of the Pavlich/Dunstall review was Governance issues.
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That we know about
I notice I've moved on Jenkins has now lodged a FOI to get the worksafe report.
Be interesting if he gets it.
Is every grand finalist that loses mentally weak or just the crows? That game was lost at selection and in the coaches box. Pyke sat their in a daze doing nothing making no changes. The players then took all the blame. A decent coach would have got the players in the right frame of mind for the game.
He then has the gall to apologise 4 years later for the camp and the media including that so called journalist Damian Barrett let him off the hook. Pyke shouldn't ever be considered for a head coaching job.
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jenny61_99
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JFC. James Hird ring a bell????
