AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
So you are accusing me of lying because I'm taking the word of someone far closer to the club than yourself?
When Rocca went down against your mob in one of the early rounds we were in strife. When we went to Subi and got smashed by Freo and put up an insipid performance it was all over as far as finals were concerned and that was a very long way from home. We had a very long injury list from early days. The only player I thought would have not gone for his operation had we been playing for a finals spot was Tarrant and the reality is he was giving little to nothing by then anyway. He has been injured ever since. The only game I though was potentially questionable was the North game where North kick 4 goals late to win. The reality they were quick centre clearances and quality players kicked goals. That’s always been an issue for us. We have no ruck and unless one or two in guts get it we start play from half back if we can win it off the opposition. Frustrates the hell out of me and it ahs cost us a lot more than that North game.
Thrawn..are you on Visy's payroll ?
I wonder whether AFL HQ will consider the ramblings of an ex assistant Carlton coach in the box!..... as significant as a interchange steward at a NAB cup game... probably not!
then you can get the problem of finishing fourth last of fifth last......with the chance of maybe being lucky enough to draw out the number one pick.......there will always be some problem!
yep your right they did what clubs have been doing for years....only thing is kruezer and judd at the end of it highlighted it more than ever.
But you are happy to accept trust me from a club you know is dishonest and run by someone you know bends rules to achieve aims.
How do you honestly think this would work? Do you think the President and CEO would sit down with all the coaching panel, with the secretary taking the minutes and they would lay out clear tanking guidelines? You have all the speculation about events of last year and then you get an assistant coach say he thought Carlton tanked – and yes he DID say that – and you are still happy to rely on the criminal burden of proof not have been discharged in a case you know could never really be mounted.
I wouldn’t doubt that. Would he then go and make tanking claims he knows he can’t ever prove just out of spite? Seems a game that would be played at significant personal cost to me. Either way his integrity is less questionable that Carlton’s. They and their president’s issues are public record.
“Liberatore, who was part of the Blues coaching staff during that time, told the Nine Network's AFL Footy Show that winning "wasn't the be all and end all" for the club during the final matches of the year.
Yes. Greg Swan knew. He said on SEN some months ago that he knew after a meeting at the 2006 spring carnival. Obviously at that stage he was working on getting him to Collingwood.
Lucky ? Perhaps. But it was the fact that Carlton finished down towards the bottem (second last was it ?)) AND got the priority pick for winning so few games over the last few years that enabled them to both offer a reasonable trade for Judd AND draft Kruezer with pick 1. Had they won a few more games they would not have had the number 1 pick (or perhaps the number 3 pick) and would either have had to offer their top pick for Judd (and not been able to draft Kruezer) OR draft Kruezer and not been able to make a reasonable bid for Judd. This would have , most probably, resulted in them missing out on one player or the other.
Well.. maybe not always will. Only if there was concrete evidence... no, speculation doesn't make it so.
If you break down what he actually said... what difference did his interview make? Did he having anything damning enough?
No one is suggesting Carlton were a great side that laid down. I am not sure if they could have won many more games anyway but that is not the point. FWIW though 1 game is all that it would take to make a very big difference and even the worst of clubs snare wins over the course of half a season. The whole point, and in fact the whole problem with the draft rules, is that one win in half a year makes a huge difference. Prior to these rules how many clubs finished on 4 wins?
He'll be back
PS He was pointing out that Libba came across as very vague to the goings on at the club which in itself points to how badly the rabble are being run but Libba was still saying what we already knew.
