AFL Media is a cesspool of vic bias

[Handyandy]

Spot on.

Its why I stopped watching AFL 360 and On the Coach.

95% of the time its about Vic clubs. 4% ofthe time is bad news stories about interstate teams and the final 1% is positive news on interstate teams. Normally rushed at the end of the show after spending 10 minutes laughing at each others jokes about some coaches dog or something not worth mentioning.

So I voted with my tv remote. I suggest you do the same.

Yep, I stopped watching all the vic footy show years ago when cry baby, mummy’s boy Walsh engaged in draft tampering & the vic media & afl gave him a free pass. I am a ****y vic mummy’s boy & I won’t play for any interstate clubs if they dare draft me. What a little cry baby. I liked wines ‘not a real man’ swipe at him after he won the brownlow, he expressed some shock to be drafted by ports but added it was the best thing to ever happen to him & made him the man he is today. Hear that Walsh, wines said you are not a real man yet it went right over the heads of insular, bias vic media imbeciles

 

[FourthTimeAround]

To be fair, you are reaching a bit with Karl Amon.

To be fair, you've missed the point.

 

[Free Agent]

Prelim week with Sydney, Brisbane, Geelong and Collingwood.

Sydney and Collingwood meeting as two of the largest followed clubs in Australia.

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If Swans have such a large following how come you can't draw much of a crowd. Shouldn't Swans be selling out the SCG every single week.

Collingwood I agree with. They have a huge supporter base but Swans. Get off it. Eagles supporter base sh*ts all over the Swans and even in a year where we are second last still dominate.

 

[iameviljez]

To be fair, you've missed the point.

No, I get your point completely and I don’t think it’s unreasonable, particularly given the lack of love for Lachie Neale as the best in the game relative to the attention given to Richmond and Melbourne’s stars.

But I also don’t think you look at Karl Amon’s 11 votes and think wow, he must be stealing a lot of 3s off Wines.

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

oh FFS

Opinion piece on the Swans in SMH - with Bombers content jumping in for a featured video. Obviously.

 

[Demons09]

How long have you been following this league now?

Maybe it's just you're a bit slow, it's a Victorian league, a few clubs invited to join in.
Soon you will get it, but will you do anything about it is the question?

I bet not, you will keep following it and keep crying about it.

And it still hasn’t progressed from the amateur comp that the VFL was, change the rules every year , inconsistent MRO findings, amateur umps, uneven fixtures the list goes on a truly amateurish two bit comp thats your Victorian league lol.

 

[Rusty Brookes]

It's a survey to the everyday person who probably doesn't know a thing about footy, or sport in general, and frankly has other interests.

NSW has the highest population in Australia, so if you survey enough everyday people, of course they're going to say "Yeah I barrack for Sydney" even when they've never watched a game and probably think Adam Goodes is still running around the SCG.

Up here you see plenty of it, particularly at this time of year. Bloke's who's NRL teams have been eliminated are suddenly AFL experts, and are now die-hard 'Swannies' supporters riding the wave to a flag.

The point is I wouldn't get too caught up in it. As you say, stick to membership if you really want to determine club size....even though at end of the day....who really gives a ****?

That's about it. The purpose of the survey is to sell the information to advertisers - so while the Swans might have the highest response rate, they would know it doesn't correlate with bums on seats (whether in front of TV or at games). What I find hilarious is how unreliable the data is. One year, Hawthorn supporters were wine drinking, slightly right of Genghis Khan - the next year we were beer drinking, socialists. The problem is with the premise that a football supporter base has particular characteristics. There will be tendencies - so we know for instance, Hawthorn and Melbourne has a higher proportion of Coalition voters but when you are dealing with thousands of numbers and the percentage differences are small, it doesn't take much for the sample to be skewed simply by chance.

 

[Daniel_Rich]

Brisbane are heading into a preliminary final after knocking out the reigning premiers and the recent 3-time premiers the week prior, and Barrett's "Sliding Doors" article is harping on about how the ARC cost the Tigers a spot in the preliminary final. It would be pretty disrespectful even if it was true, but y'know, it isn't.

Matthew Lloyd also claimed that 3 clubs can win the flag from here, though that's technically not Vic bias as he's including Sydney...but you could easily argue that saying the Pies can win but the Lions can't is Vic bias, given they're 0-4 against the remaining sides and we're 2-1.

The day after we won against the Demons, the AFL website had 4 main stories: one about Fremantle and one about Collingwood...fair enough, they were playing that night. The other two? Both about Essendon.

It's the little things.

 

[HPKS]

Brisbane are heading into a preliminary final after knocking out the reigning premiers and the recent 3-time premiers the week prior, and Barrett's sliding doors for us is harping on about how the ARC cost the Tigers a spot in the preliminary final. It would be pretty disrespectful even if it was true, but y'know, it isn't.

Matthew Lloyd also claimed that 3 clubs can win the flag from here, though that's technically not Vic bias as he's including Sydney...but you could easily argue that saying the Pies can win but the Lions can't is Vic bias, given they're 0-4 against the remaining sides and we're 2-1.

The day after we won against the Demons, the AFL website had 4 main stories: one about Fremantle and one about Collingwood...fair enough, they were playing that night. The other two? Both about Essendon.

It's the little things.

Let’s not forget the fairytale of Collingwood. The hard done by club that hasn’t played a grand final since all the way back in 2018

 

[Shaq attack]

The problem is there are too many ex players in the media and a vast majority of them are totally shit.

 

[Demons09]

And you are here crying about it, why?

There is are still other leagues to follow you know.

So you do agree then.

 

[Milanista28]

2 Collingwood players were in an accident, that's the pre game sorted.

 

[deanc]

The problem is there are too many ex players in the media and a vast majority of them are totally s**t.

But they are cost effective with the broadcasters banking on audiences fawning over former popular/successful players while ignoring their competency as media performers. The fact that J.Brown still struggles to read from a teleprompter is not important, you know because he is a former footy hero...

 

[Papa G]

The problem is there are too many ex players in the media and a vast majority of them are totally s**t.

The League was actually heading in the right direction, looking at jettisoning the likes of North Melbourne and maybe another in the early 2000s but then Vlad, the Royal Commission and the huge amounts of Victorian Government money suring up their control of the league came in. The dumb **** VFL era commentators realised that they didn't have to change, because the "Heartland" was taking back what was rightfully theirs through corruption and manipulation. If the league stayed on the same trajectory it was heading in the early 2000's we'd have a fair, professional and non corrupt league. Unfortunately Victorian Government money has stymied this and you have the same "Lou's Handball" types running around, not having the grey matter, proffessionalism, desire or ability to look outside their cosy back yard. And that's the way the Victorian Government, the slobs in the Vic media and the Malbun "Footy Industry" want it.

 

[sherb]

The problem is there are too many ex players in the media and a vast majority of them are totally s**t.

Yep, many of the better commentators/journos over the years have been those who didn't play the game (at least at a high level).

Eg Bruce, Tim Lane, Clinton Grybas, Drew Morphett, Glenn Mitchell, Anthony Hudson, Wally Foreman, Mike Williamson, Gerard Whateley, and heaps more

 

[FourthTimeAround]

No, I get your point completely and I don’t think it’s unreasonable, particularly given the lack of love for Lachie Neale as the best in the game relative to the attention given to Richmond and Melbourne’s stars.

But I also don’t think you look at Karl Amon’s 11 votes and think wow, he must be stealing a lot of 3s off Wines.

But again, Barrett is complaining that the three Melbourne players had to share 70 votes and implies that cost one of them a Brownlow. yet The three Port Adelaide players polled 72. So they on base value, one of them stood a better chance of winning because they got more votes as a collective.

Wines and Boak polled 61 as a duo. Reversing Barrett‘s Victorian biased logic, could also argue that it was unlucky that Wines didn’t poll 45 votes.

 

[sherb]

And that’s what those on the right side of history always say.

In your case “My state has taken on the name of Australian Football at the expense of other states history, purely because of financial reasons, and as such, if you don’t like it, leave, because we now own Australian Football and have every right to be biased. Fairness be damned”.

I hope you don’t get upset when you end up on the “wrong side” in other parts of society.

Yep, that's very much the case.

Australian Football has deep historical roots in all parts of the country, yet somehow there is a prevailing attitude among many Victorians that they own the game.

Geez, even here in Sydney the main Sydney comp dates back to 1903 (pre-dating Rugby League) and has been played continuously every year since.

 

[King Tenz]

Is it Vic Bias that people aren't talking much about finals or the fact that 14 teams are out of finals and have already moved on to the trade period?

I couldn't give a shit about finals right now personally.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Yep, that's very much the case.

Australian Football has deep historical roots in all parts of the country, yet somehow there is a prevailing attitude among many Victorians that they own the game.

Geez, even here in Sydney the main Sydney comp dates back to 1903 (pre-dating Rugby League) and has been played continuously every year since.

Who says we own the game?

What we are saying is this league is the same league we have always followed, the VFL it started in 1897 and has continued until this day, no other state tried to expand.

There is no obligation to jump from another league to this league, none, if you do and then cry about it, then we will laugh at the sooks.

 

[Demons09]

Who says we own the game?

What we are saying is this league is the same league we have always followed, the VFL it started in 1897 and has continued until this day, no other state tried to expand.

There is no obligation to jump from another league to this league, none, if you do and then cry about it, then we will laugh at the sooks.

Lol I’m a member of my WAFL club and AFL club I haven’t jumped ship anywhere the reason the AFL is amateurish is because it’s supposed to cater for all of Australian not some Vic bush league, not really surprised by your attitude from the team you support still has the same culture from the eighties lol.

 

[FourthTimeAround]

Is it Vic Bias that people aren't talking much about finals or the fact that 14 teams are out of finals and have already moved on to the trade period?

I couldn't give a s**t about finals right now personally.

A decade and a half ago, apparently Victorians not winning flags meant the following
Interstate AFL dominance leads to investigation

13 Victorian flags of the next 15 seasons means the part-perception / part-reality of Vic Bias will be raised.

 

[Nebular]

You only had to listen to the initial media reaction to the Jarod Berry incident, instinctive reaction , suspend him.Spent the rest of the week walking it back quite a bit.Replay the incident over and over.Ignore H Petty gouging Zorko, ignore Oliver trying to smash Berry's wind pipe, it was all about Berry and the trouble he was in.
Instinctive bias.

I thought the general consensus was Berry should get off.

 

[sherb]

A decade and a half ago, apparently Victorians not winning flags meant the following
Interstate AFL dominance leads to investigation

13 Victorian flags of the next 15 seasons means the part-perception / part-reality of Vic Bias will be raised.

Yep, that says a lot, doesn't it?

 

[VinnieB]

Plenty of supports aren't members and/or live out of town. How else you going to measure those?

So what it’s saying is that Sydney can only capture approx 20% of its population who, when asked to choose an AFL team, choose them. That’s very poor considering you’re basically the only AFL team in the city.

 

[Nebular]

Yeah it's like that that all interstate sides. Vic media will do everything to get a player suspended but the exact opposite when its a Vic player.

Trades also.

Utterly pathetic.

This is just not true. I'm guessing what the media focus on would be different in each state. Which would warp that states readers interpretation of bias?

Does location depend on what you see in your news feed?