Do they have only a soccer club, or an AFL club AND a soccer club? You know it is possible to like both?
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AFL seeks compensation for World Cup disruption
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Do they have only a soccer club, or an AFL club AND a soccer club? You know it is possible to like both?
I daresay the majority of AFL fans would rather the increased economic benefit the WC would bring as well as being involved in the biggest show on earth in comparison to a sport they see every year!
At all cost?? Who's cost? the almighty AFL, a sport that is big in half of the country in the middle of nowhere with a population of 20 million! The sport that pays its elite athletes in a year (the fittest, strongest and fastest of any sport in the world) what many of the worlds best soccer players, basketballers and baseballers make in a week?? Get your hand off it seriously.
So what if i like all sports including soccer (the Celtics is in refernece to the Boston Celtics by the way) i support my AFL team financially every year and footy is my number one preference, but if the AFL didn't conform to whatever standards the government sees fit to ensure the bid goes ahead i'd be pissed off, not only as a lover of sport but as a citizen of this country because i'm not an insular piss head bogan like half the ****wits on this site and i can see the major economic benefit that such an event would bring.
Please refer to the second point - half the ground was upgraded to a phenomenal standard.
That is the compensation. The demands were nowhere near what FFA is demanding. I'm surprised you can't see the difference.
Do you know why the Rugby World Cup was held in November? Why, because at least Rugby had the good grace to understand the Australian sporting calendar and work their World Cup around that.
As for FIFA, well clearly they like to ride roughshod over any competition.
Plus the season was shifted forward slightly ... plus the MCG was out of action for the first few weeks of the season.. they even had the nerve to temporarily rip out some seats to make space for an athletics track, damaging the AFL hallowed turf!
So how much compensation did the AFL get that year? I'd genuinely like to know. The calls for compensation from this forum are nothing to do with stadiums being unavailable and everything to do with a small percentage of people here being obsessive soccer haters.
I love both codes and follow both alot,but I see to much bitter people here and dont see the big picture with what the tournment brings for our nation as a whole .The AFL and the other codes will be compensated rightly so and there willbe no problem .Two codes can live with each other no problem. To many world footbal haters here with a agenda time to go smell the roses a it more often 
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mickctiger
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yet out of all the sports comps in these markets, the AFL is the biggest as far as revenue generated, and crowd attendance
no, but afl is begger in Australia then soccer is in brazil. The afl is a larger comp and generates more revenue than the brazillian equivalent
does the concept of proportion mean any thing to you, have you by any chance studied statistical analysis ?
no in most countries of the southern hemisphere, soccer is the minor sport, and either Australian football or Rugby Union is the biggest sport
according to wikipeadia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures#Top_10_in_Total_Attendance
afl is clearly the largest sporting comp in the southern hemisphere. The data doesn't lie
No they won't.
Just think of how hated AFL football will be if it is our fault that the World Cup is denied to Australia.
There is a bigger chance that people would turn away from AFL because of our stubborness to compromise than there would be by soccer taking the centre stage for 10 weeks.
I hate soccer, but I remember the last world cup (held in Germany mind you)....and I can't remember talkign to one person who wasn't living every moment.
YOu should've seen Lygon st and Fed Square during the games. Absolutely buzzing.
Imagine having it on our doorstep. Would be the biggest thing to happen to this country since the 1956 Olympics in terms of putting ourselves on a world stage.
Ok, lets take your viewpoint. I too am an AFL tragic who doesn't like soccer. Let's pretend the right thing to do is say "Screw soccer, we are an AFL country". What is that going to do to the AFL's image?
Instead of 1 line responses, give me a proper argument of why your view is the correct one.
So it's not worth 3 new oval stadiums then?
Because compared to soccer, rugby is a minnow sport on the world stage and they didn't have 80+ domestic leagues to work around?
Also because there are so few places able to host the RWC the IRB has to make concessions. Football is the other way around - there is so much competition (there are more nations vying for the 2018/2022 FWC's than have EVER hosted the RWC, and most RWC hosts have had more than one) that they don't need to make variations for each bidder.
Something funny I've noticed. Some people here complain that FIFA think they are so important, think they are above the law, etc etc. Yet this is the exact way in which the AFL behaves within Australia borders. Different rules hey?
I thought i'd heard it all before, but it gets better ladies and gentlemen IT GETS BETTER. The toothless tiger drunk has delivered the greatest moment in the history of bigfooty!!!
yer because Australia is the biggest and richest country in the Souther Hemisphere.
My point is that AFL is played in 1 country. Soccer in every country.
And I have studied statistical analysis, as well as law, commerce and IT.
None of that matters. Common sense is all that matters. Common sense says that the World Cup would be a brilliant and prosperous event for Australia to hold and that the AFL should not stand its it way for a one off event, especially when we can still host our season...just have to make some sacrifices.
Wow really? Thanks for telling me that
Yes, that is a classic comment. Soccer in Brazil is unbelievably huge. I don't care about the revenue arguments...but soccer is religion over there. That's why they are the best country in the world and have the best players of all time.
More BS scaremongering, more people in Australia follow Aussie Rules than soccer, fact.
More people play soccer than AFL - FACT
AFL doesnt rate a mention in Queensland and NSW - Fact
The AFL will alienate many sports lovers even further in these two northern states if it blocks the bid by not making huge sacrifices - FACT FACT FACT!
Get over yourselves you insular morons! The AFL will not be blocking this bid, if FIFA awards us the tournament the world cup will take over for a few months in 2022...then you can go back to the footy, eat your meat pies and watch your boys run around in improved stadia...simple as that.
yer and your point??? Doesn't mean the 2 codes can't co-exist. Especially considering the AFL would onyl have to step aside for 10 weeks.
Like I said I am a footy fan. I hate the soccer.
But if we had the world cup, I'd be right into it. I loved the last world cup with Australia in it...
It's like all the critics about Tiger Woods and how we shouldn't have paid him to come out. Then we he came out he brought 30M to the Vic economy.
You clearly haven't since you are comparing apples and oranges.
AFL (Aussie rules) in Australia is the AFL (league) and that is all.*
Soccer in Brazil is way more than the local domestic league. There are Brazilian players in overseas leagues, there is the national team which is involved in confederation and international competitions. Brazil is the only nation in the world to have appeared at every World Cup. It's a way of life for 186 million people.
Look at the top 3. AFL and NFL are included. What a surprise, two competitions that don't have an international component. These two competitions are like the World Cup in their respective sports, but the World Cup is bigger than both of them.
Try comparing AFL with the Socceroos, the compare VFL with the A-League. No, it's not an equal comparison, but you can't really compare the two accurately.
* Not counting state leagues etc, the same as a I don't count Brazilian lower leagues, etc.
mickctiger
Club Legend
so why dont you address the data that was referred to by following the link.
going by the figures put forward at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures#Top_10_in_Total_Attendance
the AFL is clearly the Biggest sporting league in the southern hemisphere
mickctiger
Club Legend
so why dont you address the data that was referred to by following the link.
going by the figures put forward at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures#Top_10_in_Total_Attendance
the AFL is clearly the Biggest sporting league in the southern hemisphere
No worries. Any other difficult concepts you need assistance with, I'm here to help.
One more point.
If the AFL was to cost Australia's world cup bid, where would that leave it with the Federal Government???
Would the governments of all the states and the federal government be willing to assist with stadium upgrades and expansion if the AFL denies them the biggest sporting even in the world?
AFL are too smart for this.
This is why they are seeking compensation and not saying "we will not budge".
At the end of the day, if Australia wins the World Cup, AFL will compromise.
If the AFL was to cost Australia's world cup bid, where would that leave it with the Federal Government???
Would the governments of all the states and the federal government be willing to assist with stadium upgrades and expansion if the AFL denies them the biggest sporting even in the world?
AFL are too smart for this.
This is why they are seeking compensation and not saying "we will not budge".
At the end of the day, if Australia wins the World Cup, AFL will compromise.
Have never BEEN half empty. I don't want us to be the first.
Melbourne will go see any games in force. Australia or big name countries will go okay in Sydney. It is when the tin pot soccer nations play eachother in the dead rubber first round matches outside of Melbourne which I don't have much confidence in us filling out and some third world african country isn't going to come in force to watch them play.
The AFL will have to compromise before Australia is to get the world cup.
AFL doesn't rate a mention? Well, I've certainly heard and seen a lot of negativity and scaremongering in the Sydney press in recent times about a certain new AFL team to be based in West Sydney.
And it certainly seems you're prone to hyperbole mate.
The AFL will alienate "sports lovers" in QLD and NSW? HELLO!! Have you not heard of the NRL's implacable opposition to the World Cup plans as currently laid out - an even more sever disruption than even the AFL faces.
What has the NRL opposing the World Cup bid as presently laid out got to do with the AFL?? Answer - Nothing.
As for being insular, I hardly think living overseas for over 2 years and visiting 40-50 countries all around the world counts as being insular buddy. Where have you been to make such an ignorant statement?
Are you, in effect, saying that anyone who respects their own local culture is insular? What a bloody moronic line to take.
either way, AFL will not deny Australia getting the Cup. They open themselves up to too much criticism.
