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Really?The committee wanted a full ban, the Government and opposition are publicly only talking about limited bans. The Greens and teals want full bans.
The commitee's recommendation was to ban advertising online gambling. It leaves Lottos able to advertise as well as local TABs and PubTABs.
If you've seen an ad for an online casino, you've seen an illegal ad, by the way.
Except it didn't. Old news but you clearly didn't understand or read what it was about.warn people that there would be unintended consequences for giving an indigenous voice body the power to intervene in government decision-making.
It includes online poker. Online Poker is illegal in Australia (or it's illegal to provide it).Really?
Would that include online pokie machines? I've even seen an add for Crown casino online (a while ago so maybe stopped due to legality?)
The Crown Casino ones were fakes.Really?
Would that include online pokie machines? I've even seen an add for Crown casino online (a while ago so maybe stopped due to legality?)
Their ads could only advertise the "world of entertainment", but never the gambling.The Crown Casino ones were fakes.
Just someone else using thier brand
The other issue with gambling advertising is the blurring of the line between advertising and content, a lot of the social media adverting makes it hard to tell the difference.
It includes online poker. Online Poker is illegal in Australia (or it's illegal to provide it).
This is the problem with local bans. Theoretically they will have to take poker off the sports channels, they're covered in gambling ads. I don't know how it's legal to show it now.
So the gambling moves off-shore, kids don't see the ads, but the problem remains and is even less regulated.
And yet more than 22% of Australian males have accessed this form of gambling, compared to 47% on sports.With online poker it is technically legal to access it (though you would want to be careful as there are no safeguards from being scammed from crooked games and other means). It is illegal to host and provide it from Australian sovereignty.
It will move the needle on problem gambling... Maybe not as much as you'd like, but it will do something.And yet more than 22% of Australian males have accessed this form of gambling, compared to 47% on sports.
Problem gambling needs to be addressed, urgently, by this Government. But putting advertising out of sight and out of mind with a snap ban is not the solution. It's barely even a sniff of the solution.
I worry that the fight for a ban wins, problem gambling doesn't move, but politically and socially everyone is patting themselves on the back because nobody notices it any more.
Not if all problem gambling goes online and subsequently increases (because it's easier than gambling online than on local sports betting apps).It will move the needle on problem gambling... Maybe not as much as you'd like, but it will do something.
Surely that's a good thing?
You'll still be able to gamble in exactly the same way you do now you just won't see ads for the product, how is that sending anything underground?Not if all problem gambling goes online and subsequently increases (because it's easier than gambling online than on local sports betting apps).
Banning gambling ads from mainstream might just push it underground/overseas where it's easier to get out of control.
The evidence says that won't happen; it's a disingenuous argument and the kind of muddying the waters gambling companies are engaging in to stall change and extend the amount of time they can profit from the misery of ordinary folk.Not if all problem gambling goes online and subsequently increases (because it's easier than gambling online than on local sports betting apps).
Banning gambling ads from mainstream might just push it underground/overseas where it's easier to get out of control.
Oh ffs... This sounds like the LNP climate argument "we shouldn't do anything, because it will make people use coal that is even worse for the environment than ours".Not if all problem gambling goes online and subsequently increases (because it's easier than gambling online than on local sports betting apps).
Banning gambling ads from mainstream might just push it underground/overseas where it's easier to get out of control.
No arguments from me. The underlying issues that cause problem gambling must be addressed as part of any solution, same with any other vice such as alcohol. Problem gamblers are going to gamble ads or no ads.And yet more than 22% of Australian males have accessed this form of gambling, compared to 47% on sports.
Problem gambling needs to be addressed, urgently, by this Government. But putting advertising out of sight and out of mind with a snap ban is not the solution. It's barely even a sniff of the solution.
I worry that the fight for a ban wins, problem gambling doesn't move, but politically and socially everyone is patting themselves on the back because nobody notices it any more.
Are you new to politics and new age slacktivism? That's all they want to do on any topic. Make themselves feel better, addressing actual problems are secondary to how the slacktivist feels...And yet more than 22% of Australian males have accessed this form of gambling, compared to 47% on sports.
Problem gambling needs to be addressed, urgently, by this Government. But putting advertising out of sight and out of mind with a snap ban is not the solution. It's barely even a sniff of the solution.
I worry that the fight for a ban wins, problem gambling doesn't move, but politically and socially everyone is patting themselves on the back because nobody notices it any more.
My point is that if the footy disappears behind a paywall and my parents don't renew the foxtel Go app subsciption of theirs that I use, then it's just wall to wall bachelor and cooking shows.....Are you new to politics and new age slacktivism? That's all they want to do on any topic. Make themselves feel better, addressing actual problems are secondary to how the slacktivist feels...
That said, I agree with banning gambling ads, shows, odds etc until after 10pm. Including shows on tv/radio where they cross to Browny for the latest odds on a same game multi
if FTA cant survive without that then they should try and improve their service so people watch it which helps advertising. Season 80 of the Bachelor or the latest cooking show isn't cutting it, sportsbet needn't prop them up
There are laws around footy needing to be on FTA I believe & if the AFL are dumb enough to go exclusively behind a paywall they'll soon realise how tech savvy their viewers are when we all watch it for free...My point is that if the footy disappears behind a paywall and my parents don't renew the foxtel Go app subsciption of theirs that I use, then it's just wall to wall bachelor and cooking shows.....
Nearly every sport overseas is behind a paywall except a small percentage. EPL is nearly all pay-walled. It's the way things are heading and it isn't good for grass-roots participation. Half the AFL is already paywalled. The price will go up too.There are laws around footy needing to be on FTA I believe & if the AFL are dumb enough to go exclusively behind a paywall they'll soon realise how tech savvy their viewers are when we all watch it for free...
People pay for Kayo for the convenience as much as anything. I can watch any footy game for free online still. Sports execs would be wise to factor this in and not pi55 off their viewers too much. After decades the bigwigs still can't end piracy
You're wildly overthinking itNearly every sport overseas is behind a paywall except a small percentage. EPL is nearly all pay-walled. It's the way things are heading and it isn't good for grass-roots participation. Half the AFL is already paywalled. The price will go up too.
I wonder if it will be better for the nation if people have to go to the PubTab to watch the footy in the future instead of watching it from home. Sure, many people and families can afford subscriptions or figure out a work-around. But problem drinkers and gamblers?
Let's get gambling regulation right to reduce problem gambling as much as possible, but also while thinking about unintended consequences.
Kidding yourself. Vaping has never been advertised, but look at it all around you.You're wildly overthinking it
Children shouldn't be bombarded with gambling ads. Problem gambling largely solved in a generation
Sportsbet will survive, dont fall for their bs claims
I welcome all sports behind pay walls. Its easy to watch for free, **** the greedy executives who try that when everyone pirates.
Gambling ads will have zero affect on grass roots
A wildly failed experiment by the governmentKidding yourself. Vaping has never been advertised, but look at it all around you.