Are Geelong the Melbourne Storm of the AFL?

[Roobs321]

Storm and Cats do have a bit of that NE Pats or Man City vibe.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

Whilst I get your drift, I’d suggest any equivalency with the Storm’s 2007-9 salary cap breaches might raise the ire of Cats fans around here.

It does.

The suggestion we’d ever get caught is incredibly insulting.

 

[Taper]

Swans deserve to be in that convo too.

The Storm are a good match though in HOW they do it given that they are famous for taking players from other teams who are often under utilised or very much just role players and become crucial components to what they do. The Storm recycle players better than any sporting organisation I’ve ever seen and it is absolutely freakish. I’m sick to death of them as a Roosters fan who’s side simply can’t seem to beat them in the last 4 years, and as someone who’s ’second team’ is the Panthers and as such the Storm perpetually represent their biggest obstacle (my partner is a panthers tragic so if the chooks can’t win I’m on their bandwagon) but geez it’s hard not to respect what they do

Tigers have beaten more top 4 teams this year than the Roosters, just saying.

Geelong are irrelevant and a dead end. A successful Geelong hurts the growth of the AFL.

This is a key factor in making our era of dominance look so great, especially in comparison to Brisbane who had retention allowance, cost of living allowance and merger concessions.
Imagine if AFL HQ were invested in us succeeding so they could grow the game in Geelong.

 

[bloodsbigot]

This is a key factor in making our era of dominance look so great, especially in comparison to Brisbane who had retention allowance, cost of living allowance and merger concessions.
Imagine if AFL HQ were invested in us succeeding so they could grow the game in Geelong.

Geelong basically trade in players for free because cost of living is so low, so I wouldn't call your era of dominance that impressive.

 

[mikey127]

Side note to this. I think it was 2010 the two clubs trained together and played some touch footy.


Apparently everyone just stood back and watched Gaz jnr and Billy Slater go one on one just to watch the 3 best footy players in the country at the time ho at it.

 

[Taper]

Geelong basically trade in players for free because cost of living is so low, so I wouldn't call your era of dominance that impressive.

How come Newcastle haven't dominated the NRL then?
Cost of living is a fair bit cheaper there than it is in Sydney.

 

[Cleansweep17]

It does.

The suggestion we’d ever get caught is incredibly insulting.

Did the guy that helped with the bombers doping scandal work at Geelong previously during those flag years? I could be mistaken. If true it’s shady af.

 

[Sttew]

Side note to this. I think it was 2010 the two clubs trained together and played some touch footy.


Apparently everyone just stood back and watched Gaz jnr and Billy Slater go one on one just to watch the 3 best footy players in the country at the time ho at it.

Who was the 3rd player?

 

[Sttew]

Geelong basically trade in players for free because cost of living is so low, so I wouldn't call your era of dominance that impressive.

That is absolute garbage! Geelong's dominance is because we have the best coach, the best recruitment team (Mackie & Wells), the best club management and the best culture. It hasn't always been like that; Geelong has been dominant since about 2007. Before then we couldn't attract players.

 

[PhatBoy]

Tigers have beaten more top 4 teams this year than the Roosters, just saying.

This is a key factor in making our era of dominance look so great, especially in comparison to Brisbane who had retention allowance, cost of living allowance and merger concessions.
Imagine if AFL HQ were invested in us succeeding so they could grow the game in Geelong.

Don’t have to point it out to me mate. I’ve told anyone who’ll listen all season long that we are no chance of winning the comp and that our roster is vastly overrated.

Young is as much a liability as he is an asset.
So is Crichton who everyone seems determined to ignore misses a tackle or makes an error for everyone he breaks. Brandon smith plays great for 20 minutes… then has to have a breather. None of our props eat big metres and Radley gets penalised every second tackle he makes.

If we could just play games where it’s 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 against the rest we’d be a chance but beyond that we are nowhere near good enough

 

[Cleansweep17]

That is absolute garbage! Geelong's dominance is because we have the best coach, the best recruitment team (Mackie & Wells), the best club management and the best culture. It hasn't always been like that; Geelong has been dominant since about 2007. Before then we couldn't attract players.

Hmm? Scott was not better than Clarkson and Hardwick during their dynasty periods or even now.

 

[PhatBoy]

Geelong basically trade in players for free because cost of living is so low, so I wouldn't call your era of dominance that impressive.

Of course we do mate. Rent and food are so free that estate agents actually PAY the players to live in the houses there and the shops give them food and clothing

 

[Robroy22]

Is Geelong the Melbourne Storm equivalent?
Nup
Most of us actually like the Storm.

 

[PhatBoy]

Is Geelong the Melbourne Storm equivalent?
Nup
Most of us actually like the Storm.

Most rusted on nrl fans hate them

 

[bloodsbigot]

Didn't realize Geelong fans were so touchy about pointing out that it's a cheaper place to live therefore they can buy established players for less. It's just the truth of the matter.

 

[Proper Gander]

Geelong players are thinner than Storm players

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Yes. Storm and geelong are always near the top, but regular season form doesn't tend to translate as often as it should

 

[PhatBoy]

Didn't realize Geelong fans were so touchy about pointing out that it's a cheaper place to live therefore they can buy established players for less. It's just the truth of the matter.

Based on a quick google search the median house price in Geelong over the last 12 months is higher than the median house price in Melbourne. There’s a thing called the beach that tends to impact that. So for starters, moving there is in theory more expensive.

Now, offset that may be by other factors: less commuting, less traffic, I’m not sure what the other costs of living stack up like compared to Melbourne, but that initial one puts Geelong behind the eight ball to begin with so maybe that’s a small reason why people point it out.

Secondly, when basically every small piece of success a club has over a period so long that it becomes beyond the point of being a fluke, is picked apart by people looking for an excuse to write it off year after year? People tend to get a bit sick of it. We get told we make the finals because of our home ground each year: our winning percentage at the MCG over the last 10 years is identical to Richmond, who won 3 grand finals in that time and won a million straight games there.

it’s especially a pain hearing the whinges when we sign these guys and the first thing everyone does is tell us how shit they all are.

Honestly, with the exception of Cameron and Dangerfield, when was the last time the Cats traded in anyone, and people said the player was good?

 

[STPer18]

Do the Storm cause as much online seething as Geelong do?

 

[PhatBoy]

Do the Storm cause as much online seething as Geelong do?

I don’t frequent any online league fora as the general IQ level is lower; AFL covers the entire spectrum, league sadly as a broad rule has a lower general demographic I’m sorry to say as a lifelong devotee so it’s almost impossible to find a forum that’s worth having a decent discussion in. League Unlimited is ok but I haven’t read it for a long time.

I do know that in the social media world the storm can’t sneeze without it being allegedly on behalf of the NRL and its conspiracy to help them win. Which ignores that the nrl stripped them of premierships so pretty clearly nailed its colours to the mast when it comes to how much it wants to favour them

 

[Sttew]

Geelong players are thinner than Storm players

And they have necks

 

[PhatBoy]

And they have necks

You don’t watch any rugby league do you.

 

[Cyber_punk]

I don't know much about NRL but the Storm have always felt closer to the Swans for mine.

 

[Sttew]

You don’t watch any rugby league do you.

No

 

[PhatBoy]

No

Rugby union are the no necks.

Periodically you will see a no neck playing league: maybe one per team, but they are mostly pretty athletic albeit still obviously stockier than afl players when it comes to the front rowers and the odd second rower