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Australia vs New Zealand 3rd Test Adelaide
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His job was obviously to try and nail quick runs and take the potential wobble out of any chase and to a degree he did that. Still looked like he could have gone out any ball and we were lucky we only needed 60 or 70 runs when he came in. I'd keep playing him because the upside is huge and to be fair he's a wicket taking bowler which is great. However, right now he is a bowling all rounder and our middle order is a real issue if he stays at 6 and doesn't start producing soon. He's neither making big runs when he has had the chance to swing freely after a good start or helping bail us out of tough spots right now.
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Nine will be spewing it only went 3 days
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Ha ha well played TAB.
I was particularly impressed by the way NZ conducted themselves, considering Australia probably had the rub of the green through the whole series.
McCullum had some tactical brain-fades this series. But in terms of keeping the team upbeat and in good humour even when things are going badly, his leadership has been excellent.
I did a number on myself Friday and Saturday, didn't get home until after 5am, both days, so I wasn't up to it yesterday.
Best weekend of the year though!
Holy shit, I just saw the Lyon controversy for the 1st time, umm what the hell was Nigel Llong thinking? Back to grade cricket for Nigel I think....
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Hot spot was too low on the bat for where the ball went past the bat.
lol, hotspot is exactly where the ball passed the bat whilst appearing at the exact moment the ball passes the bat and the front on shot showed a clear deflection, that was an absolute howler
Bat flare...
I haven't got a problem with the decision.
If you are going to use 3 different technologies to check for snicks - Replay, Snicko and Hot-Spot - what do you do when they disagree? Are we sure that Hot Spot is more reliable than snicko? Do we know the rates of false positives and false negatives for each?
If they disagree - umpire's call. Which it was. Are you saying that both Snicko and the umpire are wrong - in which case, why use Snicko at all? If we don't always trust Hot Spot (as in this case) - why use it?
The DRS is designed to eliminate howlers. There are 3 different technologies that can be used. Replay (showed nothing). Snicko (showed nothing). Hot Spot (showed something). If the DRS can't give a clear picture that it WAS a howler, umpires call.
Put it another way. The umpire gave him not out, the replay showed no deviation, there was nothing on snicko - but we found one other technology that showed something. Do we give him out?
It has to go back to umpire's call.
If you are going to use 3 different technologies to check for snicks - Replay, Snicko and Hot-Spot - what do you do when they disagree? Are we sure that Hot Spot is more reliable than snicko? Do we know the rates of false positives and false negatives for each?
If they disagree - umpire's call. Which it was. Are you saying that both Snicko and the umpire are wrong - in which case, why use Snicko at all? If we don't always trust Hot Spot (as in this case) - why use it?
The DRS is designed to eliminate howlers. There are 3 different technologies that can be used. Replay (showed nothing). Snicko (showed nothing). Hot Spot (showed something). If the DRS can't give a clear picture that it WAS a howler, umpires call.
Put it another way. The umpire gave him not out, the replay showed no deviation, there was nothing on snicko - but we found one other technology that showed something. Do we give him out?
It has to go back to umpire's call.
I think this is the solution, should never have been changed IMO
We have had a fair few where snicko picks up the nick and hotspot misses it and the umps seem to trust that enough to give it out but this is the first time i can remember hotspot showing something huge and nothing showing on snicko, very very odd.
Hotspot seems a very dodgy technology to me and it misses so many feather edges you have to wonder why they bother with it.
All snicko does it tell you if there was a noise, well of course there was, that's why everyone appealed!
Hot spot is a lot more reliable, although I do like the part now where a couple of years ago players were adding stuff to their bats so edges didn't get picked up, now when an edge gets picked up its something else...
Well yeah other than the massive amount of nicks it misses it is great, umps clearly think snicko is the key technology as well as they give them only on snicko evidence all the time.
Replay showed a deflection, hot spot showed an edge. Not sure what else you want? Be the first time I have ever seen hotspot show such a clear and obvious edge and it not be overturned...
I agree with you. Yes, we saw a strange mark on the bat, but couldn't really tell where it came from, as the umpire said in his assessment. Even though it turned out to be an incorrect decision, I had no problem with the decision the umpire made. He simply couldn't have been 100% certain it was out, based on the evidence he was shown.
Yet if that same decision was made against Australia 6 months ago there would have cries and howls of disgust, anger and calls of biased disgraceful umpiring designed to favour the opposition...
Its funny how howlers that favour Australia are acceptable however...
You must have been outraged on our behalf when we got screwed by the umps in the 13 ashes in england?
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Oh yeah, haven't seen anything of that nature on this board in the past fews days.
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Surely that Khawaja DRS decision was one of the worst ever?
Sometimes I disagree with the decision but I can accpet how it was arrived at.
But there have been a few times (including Khawaja) where I seriously think the umpire accidentally pressed the wrong button by mistake.
I'll say it again - I thought Khawaja was out. There's a visible deflection, there's a noise.
Check this video
Ignore Warne and Botham talking over things (they made up their mind straight away before they even studied it) - watch the replay closely.
There's a deflection at 0.44-0.45. Hard to see, because the ball is almost out of shot, but it changes direction. (Check Prior - his gloves move to take the deflection).
RE noise - Warne rabbits on about hitting the pad.
Watch at 2.20 - yep, bat hits pad. But let the film run on for a couple more seconds and tell me what the click is at 2.25. (Also shows up at 2.45). If that;s not ball hitting bat - what is it?
It's not conclusive. If anything I thought technology (except Hot Spot) confirmed the original decision. Umpire's call.
Check this video
Ignore Warne and Botham talking over things (they made up their mind straight away before they even studied it) - watch the replay closely.
There's a deflection at 0.44-0.45. Hard to see, because the ball is almost out of shot, but it changes direction. (Check Prior - his gloves move to take the deflection).
RE noise - Warne rabbits on about hitting the pad.
Watch at 2.20 - yep, bat hits pad. But let the film run on for a couple more seconds and tell me what the click is at 2.25. (Also shows up at 2.45). If that;s not ball hitting bat - what is it?
It's not conclusive. If anything I thought technology (except Hot Spot) confirmed the original decision. Umpire's call.
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