Traded Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[VogonProsthetnic]

I can't wait for your salty tears when Mackie bends the Bulldogs over at the trade table

Mackie is the new Dodoro.

 

[MisterMarcus]

GWS would immediately accept our future first and future second for pick 15 or 16 in the current draft, which we could use to to draft Smith, which we could threaten to do on draft day itself, the pick immediately before Geelong's. The threat of us doing that trade is not distinct from the threat of drafting Smith in any case.

So....instead of the Doggies accepting a 1st and 2nd for Smith.......they'd instead GIVE UP a first and second to re-draft a guy who doesn't want to be there??

 

[beerbandit]

I can really see Bulldogs letting Smith go to preseason or the national draft and Smith ends up somewhere else simply because Geelong have nothing to give


Am I jumping for joy because RFC has pick one in preseason?? well we probably pick him up there if he went there but we are in a build/development phase so we could play him in the twos and think nothing of it so he could go through the national draft and other clubs pick him up before Geelong,

draftees for RFC are obviously more important for RFC

Geelong have nothing to give but a certain someone has plenty to give. You cottoning on to what I’m saying ?

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

So....instead of the Doggies accepting a 1st and 2nd for Smith.......they'd instead GIVE UP a first and second to re-draft a guy who doesn't want to be there??

It's close to a 2nd and a 3rd for Smith. I can see them not dealing for that.

 

[STPer18]

Geelong have nothing to give but a certain someone has plenty to give. You cottoning on to what I’m saying ?

900k for the Perry Man and you have the gall to question other club's salary cap? Isn't your mob still paying Grundy and Treloar to kick goals against you like a happy little cuckold?

 

[Pencil case]

Geelong get: B. Smith

Giants get: Geelong’s first, Geelong’s second, Dogs f3

Dogs get: Giants (earliest) first, Xavier O’Halloran

Who says no?

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Woah, no one could suggest you are not invested!!!

I just asked my Bulldog loving mate that never misses a game what he would think if the Dogs gave up a f1 & f2 to pick up Bailey Smith in this years draft…I can’t post his response

Insomnia is not fun

 

[year of the cat]

Geelong get: B. Smith

Giants get: Geelong’s first, Geelong’s second, Dogs f3

Dogs get: Giants (earliest) first, Xavier O’Halloran

Who says no?

That’s actually not bad. Swap our second for a F2 and that’s what we’ve (punters on BF) been saying all along we’d be prepared to give up.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Luke Ball made his way to Collingwood at close to the worst pick in the first round literally just like this scenario you’re referring to.
Not a single club took him because he made it clear. “I will ONLY play for Collingwood, do not draft me”

You think a list manager is going to waste a 1st round pick in a deep Draft on a guy as outspoken as Bailey who says, “I only want to play for Geelong” ???

Surely people understand that List managers aren’t petty and actually have a job to maintain?
Deal will get done and this posturing on here will be for nothing.

It was actually a second round pick as Collingwood had traded their r1 (p14) for Darren jolly.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Geelong get: B. Smith

Giants get: Geelong’s first, Geelong’s second, Dogs f3

Dogs get: Giants (earliest) first, Xavier O’Halloran

Who says no?

It's fair but I think the giants are going to dig their heels in and keep XOH.
For I would trade our current r1 and r2 (not the future 1st that would be off the table) and a fr3 if the dogs send back an fr5 or something.
That way they can trade the future 3rd for a player of a similar level to xoh if they want.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Insomnia is not fun

Look after yourself mate, it's not good

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Geelong get: B. Smith

Giants get: Geelong’s first, Geelong’s second, Dogs f3

Dogs get: Giants (earliest) first, Xavier O’Halloran

Who says no?

Not the cats

 

[Golden_6]

Geelong get: B. Smith

Giants get: Geelong’s first, Geelong’s second, Dogs f3

Dogs get: Giants (earliest) first, Xavier O’Halloran

Who says no?

Easily the Dogs.

The GWS first will pick 18 once the bids come in. O’Halloran isn’t worth more than a F3 so we’re essentially trading Smith for pick 18.

Any offer for Smith should start at the Cats F1 with the haggling on either side beginning at that point.

 

[FootyLad0]

Easily the Dogs.

The GWS first will pick 18 once the bids come in. O’Halloran isn’t worth more than a F3 so we’re essentially trading Smith for pick 18.

Any offer for Smith should start at the Cats F1 with the haggling on either side beginning at that point.

Why oh why would you be soo interested in a future first and not this year’s first?

Surely you know next year’s first will also be compromised with compo, Father Sons and Academy bids…

Unless? There’s some other reason

 

[foxdog50]

Our for **** sake... A deal will bloody get done... the % of deals get done are about 99%. If you think Smith will just go to the National Draft your delusional

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Why oh why would you be soo interested in a future first and not this year’s first?

Surely you know next year’s first will also be compromised with compo, Father Sons and Academy bids…

Unless? There’s some other reason

Just because you're probably going to not finish top 4 next season, doesn't mean that you're suddenly going to "collapse in a heap" and not finish top 10 or whatever.

 

[FootyLad0]

Our for **** sake... A deal will bloody get done... the % of deals get done are about 99%. If you think Smith will just go to the National Draft your delusional

Sorry I’m gonna need you to re-try that comment attempt…

Please present at least a 1000 word essay as the standard already has been set here by threenewpadlocks, in E-Book formatting as well please.
This is 2024 after all, we expect better.

 

[triple treat]

So we take him with our R1 in the draft, sweet.

He'd be gone by your pick!

 

[CatToTheFuture]

He'd be gone by your pick!

Where?

 

[triple treat]

At the end of the day we're talking about a 6-7 pick drift in a flat quality curve. Respect your opinion but I don't think you're getting shafted to the degree dogs fans are insinuating.

So, if i got this right, you are saying that a 6-pick slide doesn't really matter cause the quality of draftees are similar?
If this is correct, then it shouldn't be hard for Geelong to just trade up 6 spots in the draft and give that pick to the Dogs!

 

[triple treat]

Where?

To a team with a pick before Geelongs that wants him!

 

[supahoops]

To a team with a pick before Geelongs that wants him!

Give us an example..?

 

[triple treat]

Give us an example..?

Ok, The Saints could trade there pick 8 for say, GWS pick 15 and 16 (they may have to throw in a future 2nd) then take him with pick 16 and still leaving them with 2 first round picks.

 

[supahoops]

Ok, The Saints could trade there pick 8 for say, GWS pick 15 and 16 (they may have to throw in a future 2nd) then take him with pick 16 and still leaving them with 2 first round picks.

For a player that doesn’t want to be there and give up that pick for 2/3 seasons of value, highly doubt it but it is St.Kilda

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Sorry I’m gonna need you to re-try that comment attempt…

Please present at least a 1000 word essay as the standard already has been set here by threenewpadlocks, in E-Book formatting as well please.
This is 2024 after all, we expect better.

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