Traded Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[Art Vandelay_]

Unless your West Coast Eagles

Then according to Jay Clark you gotta give Richmond Pick 3 for Liam Baker in order to satisfy Richmond (a literal comment he made)

He wouldn't be worth pick 3 even if he was contracted.
Rioli isn't worth pick 6 either.

Tigers making out like bandits

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Both lose not just the club withe the OoC player. Actually the manager loses most of all because he's the one with his job on the line to get him to the club of choice. Also what stops the dogs from giving the info their manager wont.

How so?

My club a month ago was playing finals without Smith. If he went to the draft and someone else picked him we go into 2025 still without him.

That's no worse off than we were.
WB are worse off though.

 

[Foxman98]

How so?

My club a month ago was playing finals without Smith. If he went to the draft and someone else picked him we go into 2025 still without him.

That's no worse off than we were.
WB are worse off though.

By that logic we are no worse off either because he did nothing for us all year

 

[Libbaaaa]

Just saw him getting a Slurpee at the 7-11 near Cotton On.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

By that logic we are no worse off either because he did nothing for us all year

For 2024 sure.
For the top 10 pick you invested with no recoupment of value you would be.

It won't come to that, a trade will be agreed on, and dictated by the AFL to be one of the ones held back for the finale to reach a climactic end to trade period.

 

[Superstar swan]

Why is every trade Geelong in end up being an absolute shit fight

 

[MisterMarcus]

Dogs aren't going to redraft smith. The Dunkley trade dogs were in talks with other clubs to pick him up if a deal failed.

My response was to a post talking about the Dogs re-drafting him.

 

[Wojcinski]

Why is every trade Geelong in end up being an absolute shit fight

because everyone is jealous of us, it's not like the Dogs have a smooth trading history

 

[Pencil case]

Why is every trade Geelong in end up being an absolute shit fight

Because they don’t believe in fair trading. It’s exhausting.

 

[Wojcinski]

Because they don’t believe in fair trading. It’s exhausting.

the only team that has traded for free agents doesn't believe in fair trading. right.

 

[Iago]

Geelong fans still haven't answered the question

"Why is it agreed that a player is a free agent after eight years after being drafted, and not being six"

I don't know, wasn't it agreed upon when Free Agency was brought in? I presume the AFLPA negotiated it with the AFL. Geelong like all clubs would have offered their perspective.
All 18 teams opinions were collated then the AFL and AFLPA agreed to whatever suited the players best.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I don't know, wasn't it agreed upon when Free Agency was brought in? I presume the AFLPA negotiated it with the AFL. Geelong like all clubs would have offered their perspective.
All 18 teams opinions were collated then the AFL and AFLPA agreed to whatever suited the players best.

But naturally complete freedom of movement with complete free agency when a player is out of contract, including when a player enters the league (ie no national draft) is what the AFLPA would ideally want, and what would suit the the players best.

Why do you think that the AFL would have been against free agency being this expansive, though?

 

[Foxman98]

because everyone is jealous of us, it's not like the Dogs have a smooth trading history

How do we not have a smooth trading history?

 

[bobs head soup]

How so?

My club a month ago was playing finals without Smith. If he went to the draft and someone else picked him we go into 2025 still without him.

That's no worse off than we were.
WB are worse off though.

If Smith falls over your list is certainly no weaker, that's obvious.

But it's pretty clear that you are targetting burst mids with game impacting abilities.

Identifying 2 highly capable and high profile targets with motivated sellers to nominate you as a preferred home (Smith and Oliver) is good business.

Having both fall over in the same trade period because you were too cheap to pay a reasonable price is horrible business.

There is a reputational price for Geelong and Mackie if this falls over, bad business long term.

Both parties want a deal done, they are both worse off otherwise.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Why is every trade Geelong in end up being an absolute shit fight

Because Geelong is super greedy. It's a big reason they haven't gone down the ladder. Bulldogs should send Smith to PSD if he won't go anywhere else then I hope he's selected by a team outside Victoria

 

[STPer18]

Geelong are #hardtodealwith

Cornes staggered by Bulldogs commentary on Smith, Macrae and Daniel

He has hit out at the comments.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Art Vandelay_]

If Smith falls over your list is certainly no weaker, that's obvious.

But it's pretty clear that you are targetting burst mids with game impacting abilities.

Identifying 2 highly capable and high profile targets with motivated sellers to nominate you as a preferred home (Smith and Oliver) is good business.

Having both fall over in the same trade period because you were too cheap to pay a reasonable price is horrible business.

There is a reputational price for Geelong and Mackie if this falls over, bad business long term.

Both parties want a deal done, they are both worse off otherwise.

It's all moot as a trade will eventuate.
As for reputational damage. I think we'd be fine.

Because Geelong is super greedy. It's a big reason they haven't gone down the ladder. Bulldogs should send Smith to PSD if he won't go anywhere else then I hope he's selected by a team outside Victoria

There it is!

#VICBIAS

 

[Foxman98]

Geelong are #hardtodealwith

Cornes staggered by Bulldogs commentary on Smith, Macrae and Daniel

He has hit out at the comments.

www.sen.com.au

Melbourne criticised for trading Grundy to Sydney for a “bag of chips”

The ruckman had a massive impact in his Swans debut.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Basil brush]

Why is every trade Geelong in end up being an absolute shit fight

Because Andrew Mackie is a campaigner and out of his depth.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Geelong are #hardtodealwith

Cornes staggered by Bulldogs commentary on Smith, Macrae and Daniel

He has hit out at the comments.

www.sen.com.au

Our club lives rent free in Kane’s head loves giving us a whack any chance he gets.

 

[SSSSSS]

Still unsure of the appeal Geelong has for someone like Sniff. He’s a rockstar wannabe who thrives on social media likes.

How does he stroke the ego in a country town type setting??

 

[Wojcinski]

Geelong are #hardtodealwith

Cornes staggered by Bulldogs commentary on Smith, Macrae and Daniel

He has hit out at the comments.

www.sen.com.au

Nice to see we're also the ones making the Dogs ask for ridiculous compensation for a couple of 30 year olds they've got running around in the VFL

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Why is every trade Geelong in end up being an absolute shit fight

You simply don't stay at the pointy end this long by not having a fight in ya.
Never mind. Some get it & some just don't.
Lucky for us I say.
Cheers & GiddyUp as the Spring carnival is nearly upon us.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Nice to see we're also the ones making the Dogs ask for ridiculous compensation for a couple of 30 year olds they've got running around in the VFL

What's the point of having any discussion at all when both players were in the 23 to finish the season, and would presumably enter 2024 in our best 23 as well?

What's the point of having any discussion when Geelong fans have been all over this thread stating that the difference between being in contract and out of contract is meaningful, but when it comes to the Dogs having in-contract players, that's irrelavent in determining what their asking price is to move on from the fact that they're contracted to the Dogs, as "ridiculous"?

 

[Iago]

But naturally complete freedom of movement with complete free agency when a player is out of contract, including when a player enters the league (ie no national draft) is what the AFLPA would ideally want, and what would suit the the players best.

Why do you think that the AFL would have been against free agency being this expansive, though?

Presumably to placate the clubs.
To keep the competition as even as possible so that us "fans" watch each game thinking their team is half a chance to win.

Not sure what this has to do with an out of contract 23 year old wanting to move from one finalist to another.