Traded Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

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To be honest I hope it annoys them more than it should.
To the sane people, I’m just thinking that’s what happens

17 and 58 ain’t getting the deal done. That’s your third round pick.

The points in your post clash. On one hand you admit Power is stubborn, is the best in the business with Mackie, the reports are that he’s clearly asking for something higher than 17, then you go on to say you think pick 58 will finalise it.
Makes no sense.
 

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You keep saying ‘Why has no other club had to do it?’ What part of that am I misinterpreting? That sounds like you think it was unfair that Geelong had to trade for FA’s and perhaps another club didn’t. Sorry if I’m wrong.

You’ll get no argument from me that the draft and trade system is broken and needs urgent reform. AFLPA needs it wings clipped also.


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We are in agreement I promise you. Cats paid up under the rules of the system. They “could” complain but it would fall on deaf ears because it’s the same rules for every team, no one else has done it YET but I reckon it’ll happen again and more often down the line.

Just like Dogs “could” complain about Smith’s situation but that would be highly hypocritical when they got JUH and Darcy for basically nothing under said same system.

AFL is at fault here, there is no one club who controls how this all works.

I’m sorry if it’s come across differently.
 
This is just going to piss more people off in here.
Surely the hold up is Oliver. As soon as he is out of the picture you’d suggest 17 & f2 does it.

If we do get Oliver, no idea how this plays out if 17 on its own is refused.
 
17 and 58 ain’t getting the deal done. That’s your third round pick.

The points in your post clash. On one hand you admit Power is stubborn, is the best in the business with Mackie, the reports are that he’s clearly asking for something higher than 17, then you go on to say you think pick 58 will finalise it.
Makes no sense.
Doesn’t necessarily have to be our 3rd round pick
 
Why don't Geelong just pony up? Ridiculous. Hardest team to work with when they want a player but want it all on their terms when they are giving up a player. Big petulance vibes.

Yep. Dogs should ask for better than the Tim Kelly trade given Smith is younger, and WCE finished lower on the ladder that year so Pre-season draft threat was stronger.

2 x 1st, 2nd, 3rd or something wasnt it ?
 
The goodwill from the Peter Street trade will result in a fair deal
 
Yep. Dogs should ask for better than the Tim Kelly trade given Smith is younger, and WCE finished lower on the ladder that year so Pre-season draft threat was stronger.

2 x 1st, 2nd, 3rd or something wasnt it ?

Well Smith wouldn’t go into the Preseason Draft for one if it got to that. He’d go into the National Draft like Luke Ball did.

And it’s hilarious how “neutrals” (I use that term as loosely as possible) are desperate for this to not work out.

Yet Hawks are refusing to pay up for a CONTRACTED bloke in a key position even trading out of this year’s Draft (which seems more petulant than anything Mackie has done soo far?)
Or is that “just good trading” when it comes to “good guys” Hawthorn 🙄

As for the Tigers, are they not demanding the World for an uncontracted Liam Baker (LOL) and multiple top picks for Dan Rioli (even bigger LOL)
Isn’t that exactly what people are claiming Mackie is doing?

It’s almost like a bunch of hypocrisy 😉
 
Alot of Mackie hate in here but people are forgetting how Stubburn Power is also.

IMO it’s the 2 best in the business guys going at it
Trade will be done, as people say it will be 17 plus something else.
I’m starting to think it will be a 3rd rounder and not a 2nd

It will be 17 and a pick swap. Take it to the bank.
 

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Well Smith wouldn’t go into the Preseason Draft for one if it got to that. He’d go into the National Draft like Luke Ball did.

And it’s hilarious how “neutrals” (I use that term as loosely as possible) are desperate for this to not work out.

Yet Hawks are refusing to pay up for a CONTRACTED bloke in a key position even trading out of this year’s Draft (which seems more petulant than anything Mackie has done soo far?)
Or is that “just good trading” when it comes to “good guys” Hawthorn 🙄

As for the Tigers, are they not demanding the World for an uncontracted Liam Baker (LOL) and multiple top picks for Rioli (even bigger LOL)
Isn’t that exactly what people are claiming Mackie is doing?

It’s almost like a bunch of hypocrisy 😉

Im sure we are ok if Barrass doesnt come.

If he goes to the ND it would be interesting to see who gets him. Id say any team with a pick 10+ would consider it.

Clearly not us as we dont rate the draft this year.
 
True - Geelong would not have won a flag without establishing a premiership culture influenced by this trade after winning the flag with the Dogs.

It was his locker shitting antics that really drove his value up. What a legend 🏆
 
I think we can all agree the trade will eventually go though on the last day. Will probably end up been Bailey Smith and pick 48 for pick 17 and 38
 
Mate the dude is a cry baby, if he was told he had to go through the draft he’d have a mental breakdown! But I hope he does go through the draft and get to you guys, that’ll be sending a very clear message to all the other teams. Don’t reckon any calls will be answered in the future coming from Geelong!

If players keep wanting to come here they will have to deal with Geelong.
 
Suns pick 13 would be dead on value for both clubs. Blues 14 (was Hawks) would probably do it too.

It’s no secret Dogs have bombers pick 9 in their sights. There are a ton of trade possibilities it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

13 will go elsewhere and if essendon trade 9 (I still think they shouldn't as I don't think kako is bid by 8) it won't be to us.
 

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Traded Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

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