Traded Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[Ash1337]

Looks like Geelong are the only ones into Smith now. Any talk of Hawks is all media speculation.

 

[Mofra]

think this is the last post to do with this thread before all the dumbasses took over. you have to wonder how much of the knee affected his pace and turn of direction.

starting to think he isnt really that high of a priotiy at the dogs with darcy and bont renewals coming.

It's a weird one as we traded up for a mid last year and will look at mids again this year if we can get a first round pick.

Personally I think Richards going into the middle is great and we should look at a smaller rebound defender as well.

Baz use a really effective high half forward too but by all accounts wants CBA time and I imagine Geelong can offer more of that than we can.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Looks like Geelong are the only ones into Smith now. Any talk of Hawks is all media speculation.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

It's a weird one as we traded up for a mid last year and will look at mids again this year if we can get a first round pick.

Personally I think Richards going into the middle is great and we should look at a smaller rebound defender as well.

Baz use a really effective high half forward too but by all accounts wants CBA time and I imagine Geelong can offer more of that than we can.

If there's one thing we need it's a quick ball winner

 

[rei154]

Yeah but we need a premiership NOW.

I am really curious about this- where are the doggies in the "premiership window" metaphor?
Arguably the hardest position for recruitment is well stocked for the future, but midfield is starting to age a bit.
I wonder if the Doggies would be better suited to going hard for a draft or two in the midfield so that when JUH and Darcy are in their prime they've got an exciting, fully strength'd midfield smashing it in to them.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Looks like Geelong are the only ones into Smith now. Any talk of Hawks is all media speculation.

Yeah its not

 

[adogsfan5]

I am really curious about this- where are the doggies in the "premiership window" metaphor?
Arguably the hardest position for recruitment is well stocked for the future, but midfield is starting to age a bit.
I wonder if the Doggies would be better suited to going hard for a draft or two in the midfield so that when JUH and Darcy are in their prime they've got an exciting, fully strength'd midfield smashing it in to them.

If Jones gets injured next year, we are up shit creek!

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If Jones gets injured next year, we are up shit creek!

It's fine, you have a Ryan Gardner shaped paddle

 

[Northernsoul74]

Not that I stalk his insta or anything but....

... ok I do, but anyway, he's been training the whole time he's been in Greece. Obviously there's a selection bias to him showing "good" training videos but he was doing change in direction drills which would have tested the knee a bit but he was fine.

He's definitely fit and the knee is showing good signs.

He’s an obsessive trainer. Not always focussing on exactly what he should but application has never been a knock on him.

 

[Northernsoul74]

It's fine, you have a Ryan Gardner shaped paddle

He has hands as firm as paddles.

 

[ChairmanZia]

You want to go back and check the number isn't 11 there mate?

that's hardly an improvement...

 

[CatToTheFuture]

that's hardly an improvement...

4 of the 5 that we'll lose for next year are no great loss. Then we'll have 6. Sydney has 7 this year. Whatever cliff there is already hit.

 

[ChairmanZia]

4 of the 5 that we'll lose for next year are no great loss. Then we'll have 6. Sydney has 7 this year. Whatever cliff there is already hit.

Ummm, hawkin, dangerfield, duncan, zouhy, rohan were the key player that got the 2022 flag.

A few draft and free agents here and there won't cut it but require mass turnover.

Cliff already hit, mate, you haven't seen nothing yet.

 

[year of the cat]

Ummm, hawkin, dangerfield, duncan, zouhy, rohan were the key player that got the 2022 flag.

A few draft and free agents here and there won't cut it but require mass turnover.

Cliff already hit, mate, you haven't seen nothing yet.

Tend to agree. Think we are a real bottom 3 chance next season.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Tend to agree. Think we are a real bottom 3 chance next season.

If that's the case then that's not the worst thing.

Geelong could do a quick rebuild by shipping out a few players for top picks.

But unfortunately you guys have a coach by the name of scott who said 'bottoming, nah, no gonna happen...'

It's going to topping up with free agents like smith to maintain geelong in the top 8 or just outside of it.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Ummm, hawkin, dangerfield, duncan, zouhy, rohan were the key player that got the 2022 flag.

A few draft and free agents here and there won't cut it but require mass turnover.

Cliff already hit, mate, you haven't seen nothing yet.

Off topic to thread but I just think the kids need leadership. Drafting at this point is pointless as it's all we've done really for the last 3 years.

 

[Philhawk]

Comparing Geelong getting Smith to Hawthorn getting O'Meara and Mitchell or Richmond getting Hopper and Taranto.

Top 25 picks in the previous 5 drafts still on the list:

Geelong (2019-2023): 8 (SDK, Holmes, Bruhn, O Henry, Conway, Knevitt, Clark, O'Sullivan)
Hawthorn (2011-2015): 3 (Hartung, Burton, Lovell)
Richmond (2017-2021): 4 (Balta, Dow, Gibcus, Brown)

The ACL worries me and I'm not sure if he's the right target. But giving up a single first rounder for a 23 year old gun after Geelong's heavy recent investment in the draft makes sense.

It's trying to accelerate the development of our group 25 and under. It's not a hail Mary to try to go again with an old group after you've ignored the draft for many years.

Respectfully, if you’re going to include top 25 picks from the prior 5 drafts that the Cats traded in, unsure why you wouldn’t include top 25 picks we traded in for Wingard, Impey and Mitchell

 

[year of the cat]

If that's the case then that's not the worst thing.

Geelong could do a quick rebuild by shipping out a few players for top picks.

But unfortunately you guys have a coach by the name of scott who said 'bottoming, nah, no gonna happen...'

It's going to topping up with free agents like smith to maintain geelong in the top 8 or just outside of it.

Smith for a start isn’t a free agent.

Secondly, I’m not sure we have many players suitable for trading that would bring us much value at the trade table other than perhaps Stengle.

I think most Cats fans are pretty realistic as to where we are at. We’ve enjoyed a terrific last 18 years so to endure a bit of pain for a few years isn’t the worst scenario. Hopefully we can identify some good young talent and be back in 3-4 years.

 

[CrumpetAgony]

Can’t wait to see the back of him. Players like him who think they can dictate what position they play and then have a sook and skip games when it suits them are not worth it. Beware hawks and cats more trouble than he’s worth.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Respectfully, if you’re going to include top 25 picks from the prior 5 drafts that the Cats traded in, unsure why you wouldn’t include top 25 picks we traded in for Wingard, Impey and Mitchell

I was comparing Geelong in 2024 (before we might be getting Smith) to Hawthorn in 2016 (before they got Mitchell and O'Meara) and Richmond in 2022 (before they got Hopper and Taranto).

None of Wingard, Mitchell or Impey were on your list in 2016.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Can’t wait to see the back of him. Players like him who think they can dictate what position they play and then have a sook and skip games when it suits them are not worth it. Beware hawks and cats more trouble than he’s worth.

It's alright, neither two teams will get a massive boost from him so it won't be a 'steal' type get as both team has fallen into the trap of midtable quagmire in their quest to top up and stay competitive and in the case of hawthorn, 'accelerate' rebuild...which doesn't exist.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I was comparing Geelong in 2024 (before we might be getting Smith) to Hawthorn in 2016 (before they got Mitchell and O'Meara) and Richmond in 2022 (before they got Hopper and Taranto).

None of Wingard, Mitchell or Impey were on your list in 2016.

Also Mitchell isn't anymore and wingard is a soft tissue from retirement

 

[FootyLad0]

Can’t wait to see the back of him. Players like him who think they can dictate what position they play and then have a sook and skip games when it suits them are not worth it. Beware hawks and cats more trouble than he’s worth.

I'd back our ability to bring people in with our good culture to keep him on the right path.
We have a pretty damn good track record.

 

[TylerDurden]

Also Mitchell isn't anymore and wingard is a soft tissue from retirement

Same as Danger then.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Same as Danger then.

Yeah but danger wasn't on the list were talking about

Also technically the players mentioned for Hawthorn shouldn't be on the list either because we're talking about starting points.