Confirmed Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[Art Vandelay_]

This thread is embarrassing.
A few need to go outside and touch grass.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

It reminds me a lot of Henry.

More than a few Pies supporters were huffing and puffing about "Pick 7 or we'll send him to the draft!" and in the end Collingwood accepted Pick 25.

If a player is out of contract and determined to leave, their existing club is in a weak position. That's not some nuffie Geelong conspiracy, that's just the facts.

We didn't accept just pick 25.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

No chance he gets to the cats in the PSD

only option via draft is november draft

I don’t think he makes it to the cats in the ND either, unless the cats manage to up grade there pick.

 

[Pencil case]

I don’t think he makes it to the cats in the ND either, unless the cats manage to up grade there pick.

It’s a huge risk regardless. Cats will be desperate for that not to happen.

 

[dinnaz]

I do too but depends if Doggies think it’s enough or want to drag it out.

15 and 35 is 1634 points or equivalent to Pick 8 right?

Not bad for an OOC player who hasn’t played in over a year.

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#1) The points system is laughable and anyone who uses it as "fair value" is out of touch. (like a politician out of touch)
#2) WB should ask for this years 1st, 2025 1st with a 2nd rounder as a minimum.

In reality that will look something like #20, #20 and #35. And without any high pick that still seems like unders for what would be essentially be your best player for the next 8 years.

 

[The 747]

#1) The points system is laughable and anyone who uses it as "fair value" is out of touch. (like a politician out of touch)
#2) WB should ask for this years 1st, 2025 1st with a 2nd rounder as a minimum.

In reality that will look something like #20, #20 and #35. And without any high pick that still seems like unders for what would be essentially be your best player for the next 8 years.

Really. Maybe we didn't have the best year this year but really.

 

[Ashman23]

O'Meara trade was pick 10 and 32. He had a bad knee.

 

[foxdog50]

A bloke on the Cats Board, who is " supposed to be in the know" saying Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

will announce Geelong within in the next 48 hours

 

[Northernsoul74]

A bloke on the Cats Board, who is " supposed to be in the know" saying Bailey Smith will announce Geelong within in the next 48 hours

Wow, that’s quite the exclusive he’s come up with there.

 

[foxdog50]

Wow, that’s quite the exclusive he’s come up with there.

Ahhhh if you say so

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I don’t think he makes it to the cats in the ND either, unless the cats manage to up grade there pick.

Who do you think would pick him before 15?

 

[Interdimensional Bigfoot]

I don't think we're falling off the cliff next season so happy to give up our future first if that's what it takes. He's exactly what we need.

 

[cecil]

Who do you think would pick him before 15?

Richmond could have 4 picks by then at this rate. If they end up with 12ish I reckon they'd strongly consider it. They either convince him to stay long term or get a nice trade piece.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Richmond could have 4 picks by then at this rate. If they end up with 12ish I reckon they'd strongly consider it. They either convince him to stay long term or get a nice trade piece.

Im not sure. They are going to have enough trouble convincing any mature player to go there in the next 4-5 years with how bad they will be onfield. If they make an enemy out of the biggest management group going around (connors will throw his weight around if it gets to that stage) good luck recruiting.

I would have worried about hawks but they wont have a pick.
I actually reckon the one club that might try is st kilda. They need mids and ross and silvagni strike me as arrogant enough to think they can take a player against his will and make it work.

Still i dont think it will get to this stage anyway.

 

[Ka Norkers]

Geelong has the absolute whip hand here, and the Dogs know it.
Nobody else interested, Smith was headed to the Hawks six months ago, but their interest cooled mid-season when it became apparent that Barrass (a far more important player to the Hawks needs) would be available. Smith only ever had interest in moving to Hawks or Cats, so only one option left on the table.
Cats will get him with their first round pick and won't need anything else.

 

[Pencil case]

Geelong has the absolute whip hand here, and the Dogs know it.
Nobody else interested, Smith was headed to the Hawks six months ago, but their interest cooled mid-season when it became apparent that Barrass (a far more important player to the Hawks needs) would be available. Smith only ever had interest in moving to Hawks or Cats, so only one option left on the table.
Cats will get him with their first round pick and won't need anything else.

Are you trying to convince us or yourself that Hawks were the ones that turned him down?

 

[FootyLad0]

Who do you think would pick him before 15?

Exactly…there isn’t one! Lol

Any List manager who would even think of using a First Round Pick in a DEEP draft when he says he only wants to play for the Cats deserves to be fired immediately.

That’s just gross mismanagement.

 

[FootyLad0]

#1) The points system is laughable and anyone who uses it as "fair value" is out of touch. (like a politician out of touch)
#2) WB should ask for this years 1st, 2025 1st with a 2nd rounder as a minimum.

In reality that will look something like #20, #20 and #35. And without any high pick that still seems like unders for what would be essentially be your best player for the next 8 years.

You sound very upset by a simple points system…Bulldogs can ask for that all they like. Bailey is Out of Contract and hasn’t played in 12 months so they don’t have leverage here.

Oh and best player for the next 8 years? Not like we had a 21 year old in AA contention, the Rising Star winner, a bunch of 22 under 22 players, a 5 time All Australian….

No no Baz is the saviour!…of a side that finished top 4 and within 10 points of a Grand Final lol

 

[THE_GUN]

Richmond could have 4 picks by then at this rate. If they end up with 12ish I reckon they'd strongly consider it. They either convince him to stay long term or get a nice trade piece.

I doubt we would take him unless in to the 20's simply because he wouldnt want to be at Richmond

#15 + F2 is a good deal under the circumstances , It it was pick 10-12 would have been perfect but 35 kind of makes it ok

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Are you trying to convince us or yourself that Hawks were the ones that turned him down?

He's right. Smith wanted us but our interest changed once the team started to win games of footy and an area we thought was a weakness isn't anymore. There's flexibility to move players around where Smith would have slotted in if that makes sense. Barass became a much bigger priority when it became apparent in some of our games what we are lacking right now. Battle was already being spoken to but we needed more. Good luck to Baz at Geelong. He will take over from Danger as the number 1 man in the midfield.

 

[FootyLad0]

Smith announcement today lads?

 

[bluespooner]

He's right. Smith wanted us but our interest changed once the team started to win games of footy and an area we thought was a weakness isn't anymore. There's flexibility to move players around where Smith would have slotted in if that makes sense. Barass became a much bigger priority when it became apparent in some of our games what we are lacking right now. Battle was already being spoken to but we needed more. Good luck to Baz at Geelong. He will take over from Danger as the number 1 man in the midfield.

Why, hawthorn's backline is fine. They were found out in the finals as they didn't have a forward who could take a contested mark. Chol is a tall with limited ability overhead.

The other weakness hawthorn has is the lack of class around the ball as they got smashed by the modest Port midfielders, JHF the exception. Undoubtedly, hawthorn could do with a player like Smith; the question becomes do they have the trade assets to satisfy the bulldogs.

I would think this will be unlikely given they seem to have an in-principle agreement with Tom Barrass.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Why, hawthorn's backline is fine. They were found out in the finals as they didn't have a forward who could take a contested mark. Chol is a tall with limited ability overhead.

The other weakness hawthorn has is the lack of class around the ball as they got smashed by the modest Port midfielders, JHF the exception. Undoubtedly, hawthorn could do with a player like Smith; the question becomes do they have the trade assets to satisfy the bulldogs.

I would think this will be unlikely given they seem to have an in-principle agreement with Tom Barrass.

We had no Day or McKenzie who both add that class around the ball. McKenzie should emerge next year as a very good onballer. Mitch Lewis into that forward line pushes Chol back to 3rd tall which is where he should be. He wasn't drafted as the big banana in the forward line more a complimentary one. Dear should develop further too.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

We had no Day or McKenzie who both add that class around the ball. McKenzie should emerge next year as a very good onballer. Mitch Lewis into that forward line pushes Chol back to 3rd tall which is where he should be. He wasn't drafted as the big banana in the forward line more a complimentary one. Dear should develop further too.

Calling Rozee and Butters modest is genuine btw.

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

Why, hawthorn's backline is fine. They were found out in the finals as they didn't have a forward who could take a contested mark. Chol is a tall with limited ability overhead.

The other weakness hawthorn has is the lack of class around the ball as they got smashed by the modest Port midfielders, JHF the exception. Undoubtedly, hawthorn could do with a player like Smith; the question becomes do they have the trade assets to satisfy the bulldogs.

I would think this will be unlikely given they seem to have an in-principle agreement with Tom Barrass.

But we didn't get smashed by ports midfielders.
Wines 23, Rozee 20, JHF 19, Butters 17 touches
Newcombe 31, Worpel 19, Nash 19... and we didn't have Day.

Clearances 40 hawthorn vs 42 Port

And if you're looking for class around the ball... Bailey Smith isn't it. Great accumulator and provides run and carry, but is a turnover merchant.