Confirmed Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[iameviljez]

Our young KPD depth is actually very strong with Buss, JOD and Croft. Can’t ask for much better than that. SDK is the last type of player we need, and there’s no way he’d leave anyway.

Yeah, it's not that deep till they actually play AFL.

 

[sexyhunk]

The reason DK isn’t playing is because he is coming off of knee surgery, hasn’t played AFL level footy since Round 21.
It’s nothing to do with form or being out of favour or anything like that. Cats are very risk averse when it comes to players and Finals. Holmes missed 2022 GF even when he passed all fitness tests.

I thought Edmund put it to bed the other day? There were overzealous Carlton supporters frothing at getting him thinking he wasn’t in the side due to form not realising he has been out injured and Edmund said on Whateley’s show that it’s complete rubbish and that both Sam and Geelong are happy. He lives in Torquay with his siblings and loves to surf. He’s not moving away from that.

siblings you say? maybe tommy dont want to travel all the way into melbourne for training also.

 

[Pencil case]

Yeah, it's not that deep till they actually play AFL.

Lobb and Jones are arguably the best two defenders going around, that’s why they can’t get games.

 

[iameviljez]

Lobb and Jones are arguably the best two defenders going around, that’s why they can’t get games.

Rory Lobb wasn't even a defender till the second half of the year, and Jones is decent but hardly Harris Andrews.

 

[Pencil case]

Rory Lobb wasn't even a defender till the second half of the year, and Jones is decent but hardly Harris Andrews.

Agree, Harris Andrew’s is better than Jones. Lobb was the highest rated key defender since mid year when he moved to defence, and one of our only players that played well against Hawks, he’s very good. I’m sure Cats fans can attest to that when he put Jezza in his pocket.

 

[iameviljez]

Agree, Harris Andrew’s is better than Jones. Lobb was the highest rated key defender since mid year when he moved to defence, and one of our only players that played well against Hawks, he’s very good. I’m sure Cats fans can attest to that when he put Jezza in his pocket.

Agree that Lobb's a good player. Almost the perfect second ruckman.

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

As a Dogs supporter I'd want what Smith is worth which is pretty much exactly what we paid for him in the draft which was a top 10 pick... but I've been around enough to know that you never get what a player is worth in a trade when they want to move so I'd say we will be lucky to get a top 20 pick. What's so frustrating for Dogs supporters is Smith is exactly the type of player we will be targeting moving forward ie. the player we are screaming out for is actually still on our list. He has done a real number on us...

 

[iameviljez]

As a Dogs supporter I'd want what Smith is worth which is pretty much exactly what we paid for him in the draft which was a top 10 pick... but I've been around enough to know that you never get what a player is worth in a trade when they want to move so I'd say we will be lucky to get a top 20 pick. What's so frustrating for Dogs supporters is Smith is exactly the type of player we will be targeting moving forward ie. the player we are screaming out for is actually still on our list. He has done a real number on us...

It's tough to accept, but the variance between the potential best and worst of Smith's future career here is huge. It's not like he's, say, Caleb Serong, when you know that at the very least you are going to get 10 years of a very, very good player, at absolute worst.

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

It's tough to accept, but the variance between the potential best and worst of Smith's future career here is huge. It's not like he's, say, Caleb Serong, when you know that at the very least you are going to get 10 years of a very, very good player, at absolute worst.

Yea true.
Here's a question to ponder: Who would you rather take if you had the option right now - Ryley Sanders or Bailey Smith?
Both were taken at pretty much the same pick in the draft (6 and 7 respectively).

 

[Wojcinski]

Yea true.
Here's a question to ponder: Who would you rather take if you had the option right now - Ryley Sanders or Bailey Smith?
Both were taken at pretty much the same pick in the draft (6 and 7 respectively).

personally I'm taking Smith, Sanders may well end up an even better player but right now Smith has the runs on the board (especially in finals) and the Cats are probably in a premiership window still. I'd take Sanders if I was a team like Hawthorn or Freo, ie on the cusp of a window

 

[iameviljez]

Yea true.
Here's a question to ponder: Who would you rather take if you had the option right now - Ryley Sanders or Bailey Smith?
Both were taken at pretty much the same pick in the draft (6 and 7 respectively).

I'm afraid I don't know Sanders' career well enough.

 

[Pencil case]

Yea true.
Here's a question to ponder: Who would you rather take if you had the option right now - Ryley Sanders or Bailey Smith?
Both were taken at pretty much the same pick in the draft (6 and 7 respectively).

Off field? Sanders without a doubt, he’s a professional and Smith is a petty teenager (see his “you don’t know the whole story” post on Insta).

On field for next year only? Smith.

On field for the rest of their careers? Who the fk knows honestly sanders is in his AFL infancy.

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

I'd probably take Bailey over Sanders for the running ability which suits the way we play. He's also pretty lethal in front of goals. But can see Sanders becoming a Sam Mitchell type.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Off field? Sanders without a doubt, he’s a professional and Smith is a petty teenager (see his “you don’t know the whole story” post on Insta).

On field for next year only? Smith.

On field for the rest of their careers? Who the fk knows honestly sanders is in his AFL infancy.

I am a massive fan of sanders since his draft year. I would take Sanders but it's a moot point as Sanders isn't the one available

 

[Pencil case]

I'd probably take Bailey over Sanders for the running ability which suits the way we play. He's also pretty lethal in front of goals. But can see Sanders becoming a Sam Mitchell type.

Personally I see more of a Clayton Oliver type than Sam Mitchell

 

[Ash1337]

Start of a trade just cant balance it.
Cats trade 16 F1 73 get Smith & 43
Dogs trade Smith & Macrae get 7 & 73
Saints trade 7 & 43 get Macrae 16 F1

 

[Pencil case]

Start of a trade just cant balance it.
Cats trade 16 F1 73 get Smith & 43
Dogs trade Smith & Macrae get 7 & 73
Saints trade 7 & 43 get Macrae 16 F1

The only winner there is St Kilda lol

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

Start of a trade just cant balance it.
Cats trade 16 F1 73 get Smith & 43
Dogs trade Smith & Macrae get 7 & 73
Saints trade 7 & 43 get Macrae 16 F1

No way the cats will be trading 16 and F1 for Smith

 

[sexyhunk]

No way the cats will be trading 16 and F1 for Smith

Start of a trade just cant balance it.
Cats trade 16 F2 73 get Smith & 43
Dogs trade Smith & Macrae get 7 & 73
Saints trade 7 & 43 get Macrae 16 F2

this one looks good.

 

[year of the cat]

Start of a trade just cant balance it.
Cats trade 16 F2 73 get Smith & 43
Dogs trade Smith & Macrae get 7 & 73
Saints trade 7 & 43 get Macrae 16 F2

this one looks good.

Saints won’t do that

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Our young KPD depth is actually very strong with Buss, JOD and Croft. Can’t ask for much better than that. SDK is the last type of player we need, and there’s no way he’d leave anyway.

So deep that Bevo had to throw a Hail Mary putting Lobb back because he didn’t trust those in the VFL.

 

[Ash1337]

Start of a trade just cant balance it.
Cats trade 16 F2 73 get Smith & 43
Dogs trade Smith & Macrae get 7 & 73
Saints trade 7 & 43 get Macrae 16 F2

this one looks good.

I did a different version on the dogs board where cats got 32 and dogs got 43.

 

[Pencil case]

Start of a trade just cant balance it.
Cats trade 16 F2 73 get Smith & 43
Dogs trade Smith & Macrae get 7 & 73
Saints trade 7 & 43 get Macrae 16 F2

this one looks good.

Dogs and Saints would say no, that’d be way too good for Geelong.

 

[sexyhunk]

Dogs and Saints would say no, that’d be way too good for Geelong.

so dogs will be happier if geelong gives a f1 to stkilda like the original trade?

 

[Pencil case]

so dogs will be happier if geelong gives a f1 to stkilda like the original trade?

Trading Macrae and Smith for pick 7 in either trade is wild. Smith should be worth that alone (obv it won’t happen Geelong’s f+f1 is most likely)