So only when we need to SOS SPS?
Prediction Best 22 for Round 1, 2023
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Hewett and Ginbey won't play huge minutes on ball for a couple of years.
And they will need to rotate with someone who is established.
Throw in injuries etc and it's a great problem to have if they are all fit and in form atrhe same time.
Dunno, it's gonna be tough for Ginbey to push out Nelson, Harry Creasy and Zane Trew from the Beagles engine room.
1. Petro (54), SPS(108), Witherden (81) and Rotham (46) have collectively had a bit under 300 games and have been unable to lock in spots.
2. We now have about 25 guys with <20 games.
Which investment is likely to give the best return?
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AFL:
Hurn McGovern Hough
Yeo Barrass Hunt
Sheed Culley Gaff
Cripps Darling SPS
Ryan Allen Jones
Naitanui, Kelly, Shuey
Duggan, B. Williams, Cole, Hewett
Sub: Petruccelle
Shuey, Sheed and Kelly to all spend time forward of centre with SPS and Jones to have stints in the middle. Hewett will also get a fair few minutes forward I’d say.
WAFL:
Rotham Bazzo Foley
Burgiel Edwards Witherden
Chesser Clark L. Edwards
Dewar J. Williams Winder
Long Waterman Barnett
Jamieson, O'Neill, Ginbey
Baker, West, Trew, x
Sub: x
Hurn McGovern Hough
Yeo Barrass Hunt
Sheed Culley Gaff
Cripps Darling SPS
Ryan Allen Jones
Naitanui, Kelly, Shuey
Duggan, B. Williams, Cole, Hewett
Sub: Petruccelle
Shuey, Sheed and Kelly to all spend time forward of centre with SPS and Jones to have stints in the middle. Hewett will also get a fair few minutes forward I’d say.
WAFL:
Rotham Bazzo Foley
Burgiel Edwards Witherden
Chesser Clark L. Edwards
Dewar J. Williams Winder
Long Waterman Barnett
Jamieson, O'Neill, Ginbey
Baker, West, Trew, x
Sub: x
I would still reward form and fitness ahead of gifting games to kids who arent physically ready.
Should one of Petro, Witherden and Waterman have a great year they may just get better offers elsewhere and we get something back. Or they keep improving and stay making our best 22.
Injury always plays its part anyway.
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What happened to your no one over 25 policy?
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I would love to have no over 25 but it aint going to happen, I would much prefer no one over 25
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If we are in the bottom 4 midseason then we need to start playing all our younger players, no stuffing around get AFL games into all of our younger group. I
Agree completely. Sam Mitchell has said he already has the basis of Haw's next premiership.
Similarly, we have about 25 players with less than 20 games. To that add another eight (26yrs or less) who seem to be 'walk up starts' (according to MC) - TB, Ryan, Duggan, Cole, Waterman, Allen, BWilliams and JJ.
So from that group will be the basis of our next PF side. As such we need to be using this 'dead' season to identify from those 30 or so who is/isn't likely to be in our next PF side. Then in subsequent seasons get max games into them. (Plus also topping up with trades/draftees.)
And no, I'm not saying play just youth, as yes they absolutely do need mentoring. But if the 11 who are 27 or older each only play say 16 games that would give a good blend of age and youth. Then hopefully by season's end we will have pretty much sorted who might be in our next PF.
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| B | Cole | Barrass | Hurn |
| HB | Duggan | McGovern | Jones |
| C | Sheed | Culley | Gaff |
| HF | Cripps | Darling | Petrucelle |
| F | Waterman | Allen | Ryan |
| R | NN | Shuey | Kelly |
| I | Williams | Yeo | Hewitt |
| Chesser | |||
| Sub | Hunt |
- Waterman probably the only one at the moment that could come out due to being injured, Hewitt to take his place onfield and Ginbey come in.
- Couldn't find a place for Hunt, so made him the sub.
- WAFL side looks a lot stronger than previous years.
| B | Foley | Edwards | Bazzo |
| HB | Witherden | Rotham | Hough |
| C | Nelson | Clark | Burgiel |
| HF | SPS | Barnett | Winder |
| F | A.Waterman | J.Williams | Long |
| R | Jamieson | X.O'Neill | Ginbey |
| I | Trew | Dewar | West |
| Baker | L.Edwards |
SPS is a genuine inside midfielder. He either needs to make it as an inside mid primarily or he won't make it at AFL level. Does that mean he needs to have a higher running capacity, more muscle, yeah it probably does. Otherwise he will just go down as another wasted talent.
The truth is he's not a half forward or half backs arseh*le let alone a good one. He isn't quick and doesn't run hard enough both ways. He has elite hands, is elite inside at reading the play and has a very good kick, I would say an absolutely exceptional kick in tight at getting the ball to someone and he's a good tackler.
He is however not quick, he's not a great mark, he doesnt run hard both ways and he doesn't have a great natural sense for goal. He's also a poor defender outside of his tackling and his kicking whilst very good in tight doesn't have amazing depth or penetration to play that quarterback role even if he had the play reading ability from the backline.
His skills and inside ability are what got him drafted as a top 10 pick. Whether it's lack of desire or development he hasn't made it there so far. However he doesn't have great versatility.
The truth is he's not a half forward or half backs arseh*le let alone a good one. He isn't quick and doesn't run hard enough both ways. He has elite hands, is elite inside at reading the play and has a very good kick, I would say an absolutely exceptional kick in tight at getting the ball to someone and he's a good tackler.
He is however not quick, he's not a great mark, he doesnt run hard both ways and he doesn't have a great natural sense for goal. He's also a poor defender outside of his tackling and his kicking whilst very good in tight doesn't have amazing depth or penetration to play that quarterback role even if he had the play reading ability from the backline.
His skills and inside ability are what got him drafted as a top 10 pick. Whether it's lack of desire or development he hasn't made it there so far. However he doesn't have great versatility.
Unfortunately Priddis is holding him back
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I don't disagree with you, but I just feel he's going to end up a wasted talent. I was hoping for more from him in 2021, but he was rinse and repeat from Carlton. In my eyes he's on the delist pile already for end of the year - he needs a big year to prove otherwise and frankly I can't see him doing it.
I put him on half forward in this team, as I'd rather give the midfield opportunity to Clark and Trew who have obviously put in the work this pre season to earn midfield minutes. Ginbey needs to go straight into the midfield to keep developing himself as a mid, and XON I thought was ok last year in patches and should carry on through the midfield.
It's a shame on SPS, as in his draft year he was tantalising good and I really do think he never got the development he needed in early years.
Jones is training with the forwards I gather. I think he is the sub and Hunt is in the backline in your team.
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So assuming no injuries, this is how I'd like to see the "Best 22" look like (balancing competitiveness & development).
I've put the BEagles 22 in for aesthetic purposes.
FB: Cole Barrass Hurn
FF: Dewar JWilliams Long
HB: Hunt McGovern Yeo
HF: Petruccelle Waterman SPS
C: Sheed Culley Chesser
C: West XON Gaff
HF: Hewett Darling Shuey
HB: Burgiel Bazzo Witherden
FF: Ryan Allen Cripps
FB: Rotham HEdwards Foley
R: Naitanui Kelly Ginbey
R: Barnett Clark LEdwards
I: Hough Duggan Jones BWilliams
I: Trew Winder Baker Jamieson
I was able to fit all of the top 5 young players into the first team, so that was a good result.
Culley, Chesser, Hough, Ginbey & Hewett should be given priority imo, so if that means Gaff/Sheed/Duggan etc have to drop out then so be it.
Might be some serious rose-coloured glasses, but the pathway back into the 8 is there with plenty of talent still across each line.
I've put the BEagles 22 in for aesthetic purposes.
FB: Cole Barrass Hurn
FF: Dewar JWilliams Long
HB: Hunt McGovern Yeo
HF: Petruccelle Waterman SPS
C: Sheed Culley Chesser
C: West XON Gaff
HF: Hewett Darling Shuey
HB: Burgiel Bazzo Witherden
FF: Ryan Allen Cripps
FB: Rotham HEdwards Foley
R: Naitanui Kelly Ginbey
R: Barnett Clark LEdwards
I: Hough Duggan Jones BWilliams
I: Trew Winder Baker Jamieson
I was able to fit all of the top 5 young players into the first team, so that was a good result.
Culley, Chesser, Hough, Ginbey & Hewett should be given priority imo, so if that means Gaff/Sheed/Duggan etc have to drop out then so be it.
Might be some serious rose-coloured glasses, but the pathway back into the 8 is there with plenty of talent still across each line.
Like the Hunt and Yeo halfback flanks.
And looking at Yeo's body, preseason and Simo's comment a return to half back for Yeomakes sense.
Reported Clark training in the dreaded defensive winger role. Again makes a bit of sense with his aerobic capacity and flexibility. Will take a few more marks than Masten Id suggest.
Can see Jones being pushed forward and is training forward. Now has some flexibility in his game foward, pinch hitting in the midfield late in quarters plus is an option as a small defender. Good bench or sub option
Culley looks like he has put in and will be demanding selection on ball. Sheed back as well. That should push one of Kelly or Shuey to sharing a HFF plus rotating on ball.
So changes in our set up compared to last year and recent years.
Cole - -
Hunt - Yeo
Clark Culley Chesser
Shuey - -
Jones Allen -
On ball: - Sheed -
Int: Hough, -, -, ?
Thats are fair amount of players either who have been injured or are changing roles somewhat.
We wont be as predictable.
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I dont really understand the point of using Clark as an outisde mid. He's a big slow mid that excelled on the inside. Its like 2008 when we had Lynch running around out there.
Clark to play the Richo role, you reckon?
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Waterman as 2nd Ruck? He'd get destroyed in both height and strength (bounce and boundary). Darling can get away with Rucking boundary throw ins at a similar height due to his strength. Waterman can't...And I'm generally a waterman advocate. He has good endurance but not elite, he won't blow up his oppo running around the ground either.
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