Competitions Best ever Crows players - FINAL - A. McLeod vs M. Ricciuto - Mea Culpa for ruining our season with the delay :(

Who was the better player?

  • Andrew McLeod

  • Mark Ricciuto


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first round - P Dangerfield vs N Smart
Patrick Dangerfield
154 games
163 goals
All-Australian 2012, 2013, 2015
Best and Fairest 2015
Showdown medal 2012
Rising star nominee 2009
2nd B&F 2012
3rd B&F 2013, 2014
5th B&F 2011


Vs

Nigel Smart
278 games
116 goals
All-Australian 1991, 1993, 1998
Premiership player 1997, 1998
2nd B&F 1996, 1998
3rd B&F 1991, 1999
4th B&F 1995
 

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I'm going for Smart. Was an outstanding player for us for a very long time and importantly, never walked out on the club. Its hard to genuinely respect Dangerfield's work at the Crows since as soon as he left his game was even better at Geelong.
I’m leaning the same way.
 
The hole that eight years later remains in our midfield highlights how special Danger was. Danger for me.

Nope. We played in a grand final after he left. Its widely regarded we had a better functioning midfield once he vacated to Geelong. We are not and never have suffered because he left. It would have been good though if he stayed but the player we saw at Geelong was not the same player we saw at the Crows. If Danger stayed we still would have gone through this same rebuild.

Danger also only played 4 reasonably good years at the Crows. Thats not a huge body of work compared to smart who played well for over 10 years and was an All-Australian in his debut year in our inaugural season. Thats an impressive stat on its own.
 
4 reasonably good years compared to 10+ star studded years from McLeod, Edwards, Goodwin, Riccuito...you're dreaming. lol
"Reasonably good" lol. He was a top 2 or 3 player in the competition during those years.

He was elite by the genuine definition of elite. A massive loss when he departed.
 

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"Reasonably good" lol. He was a top 2 or 3 player in the competition during those years.

He was elite by the genuine definition of elite. A massive loss when he departed.

I happily admit he was our best midfielder and by the time he left he had begin to climb into that elite top brack of the competition. But its not something we had his whole career with us which is what I am saying. He probably only played two years at that pure elite level. Thats not a huge body of work in comparison to our top 10 players of all time who clocked in well over 10 years of elite football. Which includes Smart.
 
I happily admit he was our best midfielder and by the time he left he had begin to climb into that elite top brack of the competition. But its not something we had his whole career with us which is what I am saying. He probably only played two years at that pure elite level. Thats not a huge body of work in comparison to our top 10 players of all time who clocked in well over 10 years of elite football. Which includes Smart.

Smart was a very good player, among our all time best, but he was never elite

I would rate Dangerfield's four elite years and three good years ahead of Smart overall.

He doesn't do enough overall to get the top 5 spots off guys like McLeod, Ricciuto etc but he would be in my top 10
 
Smart was a very good player, among our all time best, but he was never elite

I would rate Dangerfield's four elite years and three good years ahead of Smart overall.

He doesn't do enough overall to get the top 5 spots off guys like McLeod, Ricciuto etc but he would be in my top 10
I’ve forgotten some of dangers years here then, my memories are him taking a few years to even get to 20 disposals regularly and being tagged by Bernie.
 
I’ve forgotten some of dangers years here then, my memories are him taking a few years to even get to 20 disposals regularly and being tagged by Bernie.

They are saying his last two years were so amazing he deserves the nod over someone who was a back to back star premiership player. His first 4 years he was an impact player and it was hist last 4 years as a mid that was so good. Sure he finished high in the browlow during those years but he wasnt the top 3 player in the comp many are pretending he was. best finish 4th and one of those years he was behind Thompson.
 
Patrick Dangerfield
154 games
163 goals
All-Australian 2012, 2013, 2015
Best and Fairest 2015
Showdown medal 2012
Rising star nominee 2009
2nd B&F 2012
3rd B&F 2013, 2014
5th B&F 2011


Vs

Nigel Smart
278 games
116 goals
All-Australian 1991, 1993, 1998
Premiership player 1997, 1998
2nd B&F 1996, 1998
3rd B&F 1991, 1999
4th B&F 1995
Was not expecting Smarts individual accolades to stack up so well against Danger’s

In fact, probably surpasses him

Danger obviously the better player over his career but that was due to what he did at Geelong

For their times at Adelaide, Smart gets it for me
 
McGuiness. Edwards was a sensational player but McGuiness was far and away a genuine star of the competition. A premier goal kicking midfielder who led us in the early years. The votes show how many people never watched McGuiness and were relying on his post footy reputation.

Also McGuiness 2nd in 1991, 1992 and 1994 B & F was in a side that had the whose who of South Australian Football. So for 4 straight seasons he was easily regarded as a top 2 player at the Crows.

we didn't get his best and his last 2-3 years he was a seagull.
 
Was not expecting Smarts individual accolades to stack up so well against Danger’s

In fact, probably surpasses him

Danger obviously the better player over his career but that was due to what he did at Geelong

For their times at Adelaide, Smart gets it for me

they stack up because Danger was with us only really 6 years, took Smart a few more to match Danger's individual accolades.
 
Smart was a very good player, among our all time best, but he was never elite

I would rate Dangerfield's four elite years and three good years ahead of Smart overall.

He doesn't do enough overall to get the top 5 spots off guys like McLeod, Ricciuto etc but he would be in my top 10
Smarts 1993 Season one of the best ive seen.

The day here where he got moved to CHF and played out the season there

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The first final against Hawthorn where kicked 4

 

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