Competitions Best ever Crows players - FINAL - A. McLeod vs M. Ricciuto - Mea Culpa for ruining our season with the delay :(

Who was the better player?

  • Andrew McLeod

  • Mark Ricciuto

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whattagun07 said:
What's the inclusion criteria? Because Porplyzia's 2009 is one of our top 20 ever individual seasons imo. Cruelled by injury but was a superb player when on the park.

Actually that would be an interesting one. Top individual seasons.

E.g
Roo 2003
Mods 1993
McLeod 2001
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Roo 1997 (from memory was blitzing the brownlow until his injury late in the season)
Mickan 1991
DJarman 1997
McDermott 1992. Has the 4th best single season disposals record for a crow. Not bad considering it was a low possession era. His disposals record would be 2nd if finals weren't included.

Jacobs is statistically far and away the best ruckman we've ever had. Nearly double the hitouts per season as Rehns best
 
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whattagun07 said:
What's the inclusion criteria? Because Porplyzia's 2009 is one of our top 20 ever individual seasons imo. Cruelled by injury but was a superb player when on the park.

Actually that would be an interesting one. Top individual seasons.

E.g
Roo 2003
Mods 1993
McLeod 2001
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Agree. The Porpoise #1 and then this competition can be used to rank the rest.
 

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24 x All-Australian Crows

Rucks:
Shaun Rehn (2xAA) 1994 (R), 1998 (IC)

On-Ballers:
Tony McGuiness (2xAA) 1992 (FP), 1993 (Rov)
Chris McDermott 1992 (RR)
Mark Ricciuto (8xAA) 1994 (IC), 1997 (IC), 1998 (HFF), 2000 (IC), 2002 (IC), 2003 (HFF), 2004 (RR Capt), 2005 (HFF Capt)
Andrew McLeod (5xAA) 1998 (IC), 2000 (HFF), 2001 (Rov), 2006 (HBF), 2007 (HBF Capt)
Simon Goodwin (5xAA) 2000 (HBF), 2001 (IC), 2005 (IC), 2006 (W), 2009 (HBF)
Patrick Dangerfield (3xAA) 2012 (HFF), 2013 (HFF), 2015 (Rov)
Scott Thompson 2012 (RR)
Matt Crouch 2017 (IC)
Jordan Dawson 2023 (IC)

Wings:
Greg Anderson 1993 (W)
Rory Sloane 2016 (W VC)

Key Forwards:
Tony Modra (2xAA) 1993 (FP), 1997 (FF)
Taylor Walker 2023 (CHF)

Forward Pockets & Flanks:
Darren Jarman 1996 (FP)
Eddie Betts (3xAA) 2015 (FP), 2016 (FP), 2017 (FP)

Key Defenders:
Ben Rutten 2005 (FB)
Nathan Bock 2008 (CHB)
Daniel Talia (2xAA) 2014 (FB), 2016 (CHB)

Back Pockets & Flanks:
Nigel Smart (3xAA) 1991 (BP), 1993 (IC), 1998 (HBF)
Ben Hart (4xAA) 1992 (BP), 1993 (BP), 1999 (BP), 2002 (HBF)
Nathan Bassett 2006 (BP)
Brodie Smith 2014 (HBF)
Rory Laird (2xAA) 2017 (HBF), 2018 (BP)

7 x Best & Fairests but never All-Australian

Rucks:
Mark Mickan (1991)
Reilly O'Brien (2020)

On-Ballers:
Bernie Vince (2009)
Richard Douglas (2010)
Brad Crouch (2019)

Wings:
Matthew Connell (1995)
Matthew Liptak (1996)

3 x Players Deserving of Nomination for Consistency

Tyson Edwards (8x Top 5 B&F)
Graham Johncock (6x Top 5 B&F)
Sam Jacobs (4x Top 5 B&F)

Ricciuto & McLeod can go straight through to the Grand Final.

The other 32 players can battle for 3rd spot!
 
adelaidecrows said:
Roo 1997 (from memory was blitzing the brownlow until his injury late in the season)
Mickan 1991
DJarman 1997
McDermott 1992. Has the 4th best single season disposals record for a crow. Not bad considering it was a low possession era. His disposals record would be 2nd if finals weren't included.

Jacobs is statistically far and away the best ruckman we've ever had. Nearly double the hitouts per season as Rehns best
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The last paragraph says everything you need to know regarding the folly of rating ruckmen based upon hitouts won.
 
adelaidecrows said:
Roo 1997 (from memory was blitzing the brownlow until his injury late in the season)
Mickan 1991
DJarman 1997
McDermott 1992. Has the 4th best single season disposals record for a crow. Not bad considering it was a low possession era. His disposals record would be 2nd if finals weren't included.

Jacobs is statistically far and away the best ruckman we've ever had. Nearly double the hitouts per season as Rehns best
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Rehn was far more influential around the ground.
 
adelaidecrows said:
Roo 1997 (from memory was blitzing the brownlow until his injury late in the season)
Mickan 1991
DJarman 1997
McDermott 1992. Has the 4th best single season disposals record for a crow. Not bad considering it was a low possession era. His disposals record would be 2nd if finals weren't included.

Jacobs is statistically far and away the best ruckman we've ever had. Nearly double the hitouts per season as Rehns best
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Rehn and Jacobs in a face off no contest
 

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cleanhands said:
Rehn and Jacobs in a face off no contest
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I said statistically. I didnt say he was. I would pick Rehn too. But if we are jumping on this as why nominate, then why not just have a debate on Roo and McLeod as best ever. This is what I dont get. We were asking nominations, jacobs was a good ruckman, so was matthew clarke.
 
adelaidecrows said:
I said statistically. I didnt say he was. I would pick Rehn too. But if we are jumping on this as why nominate, then why not just have a debate on Roo and McLeod as best ever. This is what I dont get. We were asking nominations, jacobs was a good ruckman, so was matthew clarke.
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That’s why you don’t read too much into stats
 
dogs105 said:
Robran
Welsh
Klug
Vardy
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Robran
Welsh
Klug
Vardy
Jacobs
Dawson


Will enter qualification against a random, non-seeded Crow from list above to make final 32.
 
Qualifiers - Robran vs M Crouch
  • Index
    • ROBRAN THROUGH.

    Matthew Robran.
    1993-2001.
    137 games.
    115 goals.
    2 time Premiership player

    Vs.

    Matthew Crouch
    2014-present
    143 games
    30 goals
    All Australian 2017
    Winner B&F 2017
    Showdown medal 2016
    Rising star nominee 2014
    2nd B&F 2018
    4th B&F 2019, 2020


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    • crows dude said:
    Yep.

    1993 was coming in to his own. Then broke his leg. Think he broke it again in 1994. 1997 and 1998 was an extremely important part of our side. Plus that leg he had on him.
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    Mutineer said:
    Good handy player IMO.
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    Don’t disagree with either of those assessments but we’re talking here in context of our greatest ever players.
     
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