Bluemour Discussion Thread XIV - Facts Not Welcome

[Foxy1302]

'Damian Barrett is perhaps the best footy journalist in the country'


Who writes this garbage WTF!

Barrett's mum?? or his PA

 

[Opine]

SOS is gonna be on TR with Barrett shortly.

 

[ForYouBlue]

What does that mean? What happened? Sorry missed a lot of the info

Can’t seem to find it mate, but from memory parties were happy to deal with us until gws thought they’d get the better deal from the dons

 

[Stamos]

A rumour from a poster via PM who has had some good mail recently. Will remain anonymous for now:

Carlton looking at trading pick 1 for pick 2 and something else TBC. Possible options discussed are a second rounder, Jack Martin, or a 2019 second round pick.
The idea is to increase our return on pick 1 by getting it to the Crows while we still get Walsh and more back. GC end up with several picks inside 20.

#bluemour

The source of this rumour isn't Chief, by any chance Shan?

 

[Coops93]

Just had a look at where all our players have been picked in their draft year and its pretty scary how many 1st rnd picks we have. Just put it up as a discussion point.

Interesting that the 10-15 group looks better than the 1-6 group

 

[Prem17]

There is no incentive for GC to give up pick 2 because they like Walsh as well.
Let's just say that somehow or other Adelaide end up with pick 1, then GC are perfectly placed to get Walsh at pick 2.
At best, they would give us pick 3 for pick 1 (later picks/players excluded).
I can't see a trade of pick one happening unless it was a history making 3 way deal between Carlton, Adelaide and GC, with Carlton getting no later than pick 2, but as I said, GC have no incentive to do it.

 

[jooce8891]

You just know that pick #71 is going to be an Agresta special

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someone of tom papely, ben ronke, nic newman or dane rampes caliber please, all picks in the top 70 or the rookie draft, not bad from agresta

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Pick 71. It’s gonna be a doozy.


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Maybe not.. unless its a Westhoff or Lake?

2017: Jackson Ross - Hawthorn
2016: Corey Lyons - Brisbane
2015: No 71
2014: No 71
2013: Will Langford - Hawthorn
2012: Daniel Nicholson (Rookie promotion) - Melbourne
2011: Cameron Sutcliffe - Fremantle
2010: Ben Mabon - North
2009: Ben Nason - Richmond
2008: Ross Tungatulum - St Kilda
2007: Aaron Kite - Adelaide
2006: Justin Westhoff - Port Adelaide
2005: Justin Sweeney - St Kilda
2004: No 71
2003: No 71
2002: No 71
2001: Brian Lake - Western Bulldogs
2000: Daniel Lowther - Geelong

 

[NavySteel]

Might have been discussed already, but bidding war between Adelaide and Port will be interesting. We know GCS is keen on Walsh, but if we are holding our position on not trading pick 1 (for now), it’ll be interesting to see the desperation of Adelaide and Port to get a pick 2 or 3. Wouldn’t be surprised if a deal was done between GCS and Adelaide or Port (or both) at the 11th hour if GCS were offered something silly for pick 2/3.

Depending how desperate Adelaide/Port are for a particular player, e.g. Luko, Rankine, et al. will we see SOS trade pick 1 at the 11th hour after GCS have traded pick 2, for pick 2 + picks/player such that we could still pick up Walsh at pick 2 and get another pick in the first/second round this year??

Does that make sense?

Just a thought - mind games and desperation could work in SOS’ favour this draft...

A rumour from a poster via PM who has had some good mail recently. Will remain anonymous for now:

Carlton looking at trading pick 1 for pick 2 and something else TBC. Possible options discussed are a second rounder, Jack Martin, or a 2019 second round pick.
The idea is to increase our return on pick 1 by getting it to the Crows while we still get Walsh and more back. GC end up with several picks inside 20.

#bluemour

Well, well, there you go!

Maybe the recruitment and list depts are keeping track on BF forums....

 

[HBF]

Hogan out > Gawn up forward at times > Preuss reloads (also another option when they get shut down like the PF).

I just see why you'd ho to another club to be a backup ruckman.

 

[passmark]

SOS is gonna be on TR with Barrett shortly.

Trade Radio (Barrett) unashamedly flag waving for Melb and potting Freo.

The AFL must want May to Melb

 

[The Bighouse]

Trade Radio (Barrett) unashamedly flag waving for Melb and potting Freo.

The AFL must want May to Melb

Because Freo deserve all they get.

 

[jooce8891]

Maybe not.. unless its a Westhoff or Lake?

for pick 71 i'd take sutcliffe and langford fwiw

 

[Opine]

Trade Radio (Barrett) unashamedly flag waving for Melb and potting Freo.

The AFL must want May to Melb

Barrett is naive. Personally, think Bell has done absolutely the right thing. Have said before, market value is what the market circumstances dictate not some forkin pick points criteria. Point is that Freo can get Hogan next year for zilch; why on earth would they give up pick 5; its not like they're in the immediate window.
Kudos to Bell.

 

[Aphrodite]

The source of this rumour isn't Chief, by any chance Shan?

I think I know who it it.

He thinks Shan is a Carlton Mod.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

for pick 71 i'd take sutcliffe and langford fwiw

That's fair, but i'm not sure about anyone else on that list.

 

[passmark]

Barrett is naive. Personally, think Bell has done absolutely the right thing. Have said before, market value is what the market circumstances dictate not some forkin pick points criteria. Point is that Freo can get Hogan next year for zilch; why on earth would they give up pick 5; its not like they're in the immediate window.
Kudos to Bell.

And Melb are running around with their cheat puffed out saying we deman this or that when it's MELBOURNE who are driving this. They Want May more than Freo want Hogan.

 

[SandgroperBlue]

SOS is gonna be on TR with Barrett shortly.

Has he been on yet?

 

[HBF]

Official AFL Twitter account - 'Blues working on something big?'

Trust in SOS

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Has he been on yet?

Well, Terry Wallace is coming up

 

[Faz 2000]

That still equates to making a three-way trade with Gold Coast.

I don't see it.

Adelaide/Port will take out the middle man (Carlton) by taking on pick 2 or 3 from Gold Coast.

If Carlton deal directly with Adelaide/Port then Gold Coast have zero incentive to trade pick 2 as they get the man they want there.

Not only would we have to satisfy Adelaide/Port but also GC. Not likely to happen without getting hammered.

Yeh, I started playing with scenarios and anything involving Gold Coast doesn't need to involve us. There are fair three-way swaps and so on, but ultimately we just don't need to be involved because GC can deal with #2.

However, *IF* SOS was not set on Walsh there would be scenarios for PA or Adelaide to come over the top for 1 and we could still stay high in the pecking order. Unlikely, I guess.

 

[Opine]

Has he been on yet?

No not yet.
Barrett and Wallet are doing their list management of Ninethmond.
Perhaps after that.

 

[CFC_#17]

Barrett is naive. Personally, think Bell has done absolutely the right thing. Have said before, market value is what the market circumstances dictate not some forkin pick points criteria. Point is that Freo can get Hogan next year for zilch; why on earth would they give up pick 5; its not like they're in the immediate window.
Kudos to Bell.

Hogan isn't a free agent next year he is just uncontracted, Freo got pick 2 for Lachie Weller last year now they only offer pick 11 and a future second for Hogan.

 

[SandgroperBlue]

No not yet.
Barrett and Wallet are doing their list management of Ninethmond.
Perhaps after that.

Cheers. This list management segment gives me the shizas..

 

[2ndeffort]

What are the rules regarding how many players we have to draft. i think we have to draft at least 3 players. I ask because if we pull up stumps now, we draft Walsh at 1, go for a Siesta then come back at the end of the draft and pickup a couple of kids from the Poowong 3rds. Maybe we are foced to fraft a couple of players so smoky they are living at the burns unit.