Bluemour Discussion Thread XIV - Facts Not Welcome

[Hands On]

Wonder why SOS hasn't pursued Scully if this is the case. He would be ideal for us.

Setterfield has more upside when fit and we haven't got enough to effect the trade we need to keep some picks in case some other deals surface.

 

[SHOWEY]

I doubt it. I think it might be a future second and a third for Setterfield. He’s a really good player with an injury cloud. Without the injury he’d be a first round pick, no question. SOS would have taken him with pick one in 2016.

Thanks EP, anything else of interest for us this trade period?

 

[Gavstar]

Seems that we're paying top dollar for a bloke coming off 2 games of footy and recovering from an ACL.

I believe Lobb's value is greater than Setterfield's yet there talk of Lobb being only worth a second round and exchange of later picks.

I think the Shiel deal is gumming the works and now Scully. Or the reluctance is perhaps offloading Lobb, Shiel and Scully means they hope they can keep Setterfield. That would be an interesting chat between GWS and Setterfield!

 

[Brezsa]

With ep's mail, looks like hawks won't be able to use our 2019 first rounder for their Scully or wingers deals.

Gonna be interesting to see how they get it done.

They are gonna have to ship off someone other than burton

 

[F_therest]

How the mighty have fallen.
Hannebery worth a high first rounder a few years ago, basically a non-event today.

Can we go after Sydney players please? They give away their players for unders regularly.

 

[ericpascoe]

Thanks EP, anything else of interest for us this trade period?

Don’t know. I think the future first could possibly be on the table if the right player was available. But he’d have to be of Jack Martin type quality. Reckon we inquired there but Suns aren’t selling

 

[Kades_Dad]

I read that Essendon offer was significantly less than St Kilda but not much different to ours or hawthorns..

My understanding is that it was just under $2m less than ours over the life of the contract.

 

[SHOWEY]

Unbelievable trade for StKilda......5 year retirement fund$ I would say. Hope the Aints did their due diligence......nah who cares.

Saint due diligence:
"You want to come here? Great we'll take you"

 

[F_therest]

Gonna be interesting to see how they get it done.

They are gonna have to ship off someone other than burton

2018 first and Burton for wingard.

Next years first for scully?

 

[Johnny James]

Hi. Thought I’d just pop back in to calm the farm. Reliably informed that Setterfield will get done and won’t involve our future first

Thanks EP.
I for one respect your info mate.

 

[RoyalParade]

Actually maybe if our 2019 1st is traded first, and part of it we got hawks2019 2nd, then our 2019 second to GWS for setterfield?

 

[Bostonian]

No, I have been advocating that we go recruit a B Grade midfielder, Tyson, Dunstan, Ken, VanDenBurg Etc not someone who is no longer up to AFL standard. Have been saying we are 4 mids short on our list for some time (5 if you include Graham to be delisted)

Dunstan is a C grade midfielder, no better than Kerridge.

 

[dlb99]

Meanwhile Saints get Hannebery for peanuts

His body looks cooked.
Reminds me of Griffin and Delideo to GWS.
I believe the Saints are not getting what they think they are getting.

 

[Bostonian]

Actually maybe if our 2019 1st is traded first, and part of it we got hawks2019 2nd, then our 2019 second to GWS for setterfield?

Who are we getting for our 2019 first?

 

[SHOWEY]

Don’t know. I think the future first could possibly be on the table if the right player was available. But he’d have to be of Jack Martin type quality. Reckon we inquired there but Suns aren’t selling

Thanks for that EP. Curious to hear your personal opinion, what would you go after if you put future first on the table?

 

[Brezsa]

2018 first and Burton for wingard.

Next years first for scully?

Thing I don’t get is the 2 first rounders in 4 year rule

That would mean for Hawks
2019 - no first round
2018 - no first round
2017 - no first round
2016 - no first round
2015 - 2 first round

So in 2019 over a 4 year rolling rule, they would have used no first round picks.

I think it’s a silly rule, but it’s there and it amazes me not one journalist has mentioned anything on it or ask for clarification

It’s annoying me enough that I’m seriously considering calling trade radio

 

[Gavstar]

My understanding is that it was just under $2m less than ours over the life of the contract.

$3M less than the Aints?

 

[Matty411]

Hi. Thought I’d just pop back in to calm the farm. Reliably informed that Setterfield will get done and won’t involve our future first

Cheers mate. Any idea how close it is and if its waiting/conditional on the Shiel deal getting done first?

 

[RoyalParade]

Who are we getting for our 2019 first?

Dunno but I'm starting to think it has real currency as hawks will probably need it now.

 

[mochacinolatte]

Don’t know. I think the future first could possibly be on the table if the right player was available. But he’d have to be of Jack Martin type quality. Reckon we inquired there but Suns aren’t selling

Thanks for the mail EP!.

Question, got any information on what other clubs have offered for pick 1?

Cheers,

 

[Blue_Fusion]

We did everything we could to get Shiel. And i don't see how both of these deals are related.

They're not. It was the culmination of them. Some whining about McGovern, some Fasolo, some on missing out on Shiel.

Ep was trying to point out why things panned out that way but people still kept complaining (about the club, not ep himself) and he just had enough.

 

[Matty411]

Wingard AND Scully to the Hawks, eh? Interested to see how they pull these off within trading rules (wasn't sure they were still able to trade 2018 and 2019 firsts).

 

[ferrisb]

Hi. Thought I’d just pop back in to calm the farm. Reliably informed that Setterfield will get done and won’t involve our future first

Two words.

BOO and YAH!

 

[Benaly28]

Message to all posters don’t p... off EP anymore,extremely reliable source with great info dosent deserve anything more than praise.Thanks EP.

 

[zeggie]

His body looks cooked.
Reminds me of Griffin and Delideo to GWS.
I believe the Saints are not getting what they think they are getting.

Completely agree.

I also think he is not mentally committed. His manager probably recommended the move to get a final big pay cheque.