Bluemour Discussion Thread XVI - Facts Not Welcome

[Matt Clape]

Is it just me that wants to see Lobbe kept on as ruck coach?

I want him......now.

Agree. He does a lot of fantastic work behind the scenes with the younger players.

 

[Dadda Dave]

Schache is a bust IMO.

The lions dodged a bullet there I reckon..
Handballed him off nicely..
Wasn't worth pick 2 in hindsight..

 

[Wickzki]

The lions dodged a bullet there I reckon..
Handballed him off nicely..
Wasn't worth pick 2 in hindsight..

Remember that brief, fleeting, moment that there was debate of Weitering or Schache?

Weiters may not end the best player in that draft (I believe he will come mighty close) but there was never a contest.

 

[Dominator_7]

Lol Bont now... ok then. Some of you really need to stop sniffing glue.
As for McGovern, he hasn’t been that bad this year, and had a pretty limited Pre season. He ll be right.

 

[VainGlorious]

How many tall defenders do we need though? I'd keep playing him as a forward.

Agreed, needs to do some bag work during the week though. Mistiming his leaps pretty badly on Saturday.
And can kick straight

 

[bmaurizio]

The lions dodged a bullet there I reckon..
Handballed him off nicely..
Wasn't worth pick 2 in hindsight..

Too early to make definitive statement on Schache he’s a quality tall and requires longer to mature and develop the aerobic endurance.

 

[AlecDuncan]

McGee is the sort of player who stars best on the biggest stage. We just need to get him there.

 

[Iamcarlton]

Im really hoping McGovern's issue is still trying to find his feet with a consistent run of games due to his previous injuries. Even more recently, his interrupted season this year through his hamstring issues. I think we're forgetting that he's only played 57 games and is still on the right side of 25, reaching the middle of his career soonish. He deserves at least until next season to get himself right. He's shown flashes of brilliance for me, but no consistency. Its been in bursts where he will have a immense 10 minute patch but go missing for nearly the rest of the game. 2 goals, 10-12 touches a game should be the expected output at a minimum from a player as talented as he is. But he deserves some time as i've said to get back to some of the quality he showed at the Crows before his injury. If he needs to play 2's for a bit, make the move. As long as its for the right reasons.

For example, next week i'd bring JSOS in for him due to Jack's fantastic performance. We have the competition and depth in these positions now, lets use it as a motivator for these guys no matter who they are.

Its only Mcgoverns straight kicking at goal 16-4 that's making his recruitment at high expense look rather silly atm .
His output outside of goals is way down on his crows time just not getting involved enough .
He is inconsistent unfit and injury prone im certainly not banking on him improving his output enough to justify the development time he is taking away from Jack and Kerr .

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Let's put it out there

Harry McKay for Bont?

Services both teams on a needs basis. We have a glut of tall forwards.

Would allow mcgov and Curnow to play with greater freedom.

Nobody wants to let a star KPF go, but Id personally do it...

No way

 

[HereComesJuddy]

A 1st and big H for Bont ??

What?

 

[Dadda Dave]

Remember that brief, fleeting, moment that there was debate of Weitering or Schache?

Weiters may not end the best player in that draft (I believe he will come mighty close) but there was never a contest.

Weits had the wood over him in the juniors too irc

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I’d consider trading Harry for the Josh Dunkley a 190 cm premiership midfielder that would add power and skill to our engine room.
Assisting Cripps and completing our AA midfield, whilst helping to protect our young elite midfielders , Walsh, Dow, Stocker, SPS , Setterfield, Fisher and O’Brien as they develop.[/QUOT

Id absolutely swap Harry for Dunkley. Without a doubt.

 

[Dadda Dave]

What?

That's what we said ..

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Ummm no, no and hell no!
McKay is 10 times better than McGovern..
Let the dogs develop Schache if they want a KPF.

LOL. Based on what exactly?

 

[Doro]

I'm actually looking forward to the Harry/Charlie/Gov attack. One day soon they'll all click on the same day, will create some anxiety for opposition planning in years to come.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Completely agree, I'd be offering the Adelaide pick for Dunkley before I contemplated giving it up for Papley.

Yep, agreed.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

I'm actually looking forward to the Harry/Charlie/Gov attack. One day soon they'll all click on the same day, will create some anxiety for opposition planning in years to come.

Agree!
Need Cuningham and maybe some of Deluca, Owies, Papley etc running around at their feet to create mass chaos for opposition backs

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Yep, agreed.

Yes Dunkley would be a great addition. As would Papley. Cant complain if we landed 1

 

[BigFrizz36]

Yeah some were a bit over Charlie a couple of weeks ago IIRC.

Charlie 8 games for 8 goals under Bolton this year.

10 goals in 2 games with interim coach since....

Saw this in robbos column today. A fair bit of it was injury related though.

 

[Soapy V]

How many tall defenders do we need though? I'd keep playing him as a forward.

Not about what I want or needs I just think at some stage it will be his spot. He will be more consistent and better in that role. JMO

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

God damn Saints gonna make us have to pay a fortune for him if we chase https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...4WOpV8I67K6yNoO8THOeF9_UEZ7UA2qmw7wdKdlQgRQrI

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Saw this in robbos column today. A fair bit of it was injury related though.

Ball movement, match ups/opposition, team focus, team & individual confidence all factors as well.

 

[Aphrodite]

God damn Saints gonna make us have to pay a fortune for him if we chase https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...4WOpV8I67K6yNoO8THOeF9_UEZ7UA2qmw7wdKdlQgRQrI

Tom Morris

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Tom Morris

He's gotta keep his career afloat somehow, nobody will have him on TV anymore with his shocking takes

 

[Just Kreuzing]

God damn Saints gonna make us have to pay a fortune for him if we chase https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...4WOpV8I67K6yNoO8THOeF9_UEZ7UA2qmw7wdKdlQgRQrI

What else could this shake loose though ?

Has Billing’s signed ?

Could this amount mean if the Giants decide to match it does that allow teams to target another player of theirs ?

Can’t see Coniglio going to Saints or Hawks the way their current lists look, would be more likely to go to Eagles, Carlton (has some connections & better young talent) or remain a Giant.