Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[4flagsin5yrs]

If Young barely gets picked for us and has been told to look elsewhere and BZT and Ratugolea are picked every week for a side that played in the prelim, doesnt that suggest that the gap is pretty big?

Young is just as good as Zirk-thatcher any day of the week. Better, imo.

As for Ratugolea, Port were so confident in him as a KPD, they played him as a KPF!

 

[Pixelshooter]

If Young barely gets picked for us and has been told to look elsewhere and BZT and Ratugolea are picked every week for a side that played in the prelim, doesnt that suggest that the gap is pretty big?

I'd have no problem giving Young away for nothing. I've said this before...he's OK in a marking contest, but anything other than that he just shits the bed. I swear, it looks like he's playing on slicks the number of times he just goes to ground for no apparent reason...I think it's a subconscious copout mechanism. If he has the ball in space, he looks completely lost.

Apologies to any fans of his...this isn't personal. I just don't think he's cutout for modern footy.

Just give pick 12 and a F2 to Port if that'll get Houston. I reckon 6-7 years out of a two time AA who is an absolutely elite kick of the footy while Crippa is still around is at least the equal of a 50/50 chance of a good pickup in the draft.

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Judging from Austin’s tone, seems there’s a clear directive to play the kids more. To my ears at least.

Good, that’s what should be happening periodically throughout every year not just when there’s another injury crisis


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[carlton_99]

If Young barely gets picked for us and has been told to look elsewhere and BZT and Ratugolea are picked every week for a side that played in the prelim, doesnt that suggest that the gap is pretty big?

Well we do have Weitering a top 2 key defender in the comp. Plus the two intercepting types that we wanted to play in Gov and Kemp. Port only have Allir as a lock in the back 7 as a tall. They don't have much choice but to play them

 

[woof39]

It's a bit odd.

Coll with the oldest list in the comp, arguably holding on by a thread to not fall off the cliff, want to spend all their 1st rounders on an established players. Shultz included if you count him based on the pick they used being this year.

Carlton, in the 'premiership age' window, want to go to the draft.

The best outcome for us is to do both, and in fairness I think that's what they are thinking too. I am glad we have the strategy of making sure that we don't completely ignore the draft, and bring in 1st round talent each year. We need to keep building that 18 to 24 year old base.

 

[CoachB]

No it doesn't.

We belted the Cats yet they ended up missing a GF by a whisker.

The MC screwed up by picking Doc and a bunch of others with no or limited match fitness..... selection integrity was compromised - and it sent a horrible message to the players....

Our midfield - after Cripps, Walsh (* not fit), Cerra (* not fit), Doc (*very not fit) and Kennedy was subbed out early (major brain fade). And another terrible message to the playing group.

Pitto as first ruck - a fail.

You'd almost reckon Vossy had thrown a lazy $500 on the Lions to win big!

We finished the season 2-7..

 

[CoachB]

Maybe Austin should announce we're desperate for some defenders and will consider all reasonable offers?

Maybe he should land some fish..

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

At the end of 2022 the same stuff was rolled out, we need to go to the draft to smooth out the cap and we will target players next year, 2023 comes around and we trade out two players, bring in Hollands and the cheap and go to the draft in the late 20’s, the same lines were rolled out, we need to hit the draft and we will target players next year and now its 2024 and we are rolling out the same lines.


We are desperate for a second key defender, last year one went as a free agent, this year Barass will go to the Hawks and Battle went to the Hawks, we weren’t linked to any, the only reason why a club desperate for another key defender wasn’t in the discussion is because we have no $$$$.

Maybe next year will be the year we have the $$$ to go after a player of need but people already are talking about the big $$$ needed to re-sign Weits and TDK.

With all theses gun players on big $$$$$ and the need to re-sign two more players on long term big $$$$ deals, why dont we have anything to show for it? It’s not like these players are young and then why are clubs who have been continually better than in the past, have $$$$ to target players in areas of need to strengthen their teams?

Bravo DD
It's frustrating as some of our very good players are getting long in the tooth. The time is now. The way our football club operates and plays on the field is for the best part mirrored on this forum. Mediocrity is excepted, expected and guaranteed. Kevin Sheedy once told me you need to add 2 or 3 best 22 players every year.
Everyone on hear is using the injury excuse....the old "she'll be right mate". It doesn't work like that!
Good clubs are proactive & ruthless in their desire to improve. The fence is no place to sit if you want to win Premierships. We are collectively too nice and accepting of our fate!

 

[Arr0w]

While pointy end picks generally deliver better players, talent can be found at every level

Clubs have to take 3 picks to the draft, even if they want to trade in players, so club lists don't magically get older or younger, it's strategic, based on the readiness of a group to challenge

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

It's a bit odd.

Coll with the oldest list in the comp, arguably holding on by a thread to not fall off the cliff, want to spend all their 1st rounders on an established players. Shultz included if you count him based on the pick they used being this year.

Carlton, in the 'premiership age' window, want to go to the draft.

The best outcome for us is to do both, and in fairness I think that's what they are thinking too. I am glad we have the strategy of making sure that we don't completely ignore the draft, and bring in 1st round talent each year. We need to keep building that 18 to 24 year old base.

I think if it was someone like Bolton then both our first rounders would be on the table in a flash. I think our problem is that putting all our resources into someone like Houston may not solve our biggest problems and we will be completely out of salary cap room if we get him. We would then not be able to address them next year either.

As mentioned above. I think the worry with Houston is that you have to overpay for pick 13 then overpay for Houston.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Does anyone else think it's really strange that all of the ITK's turned up on here at the same time last week and then they all just disappeared again?

KC brought up about Houston still a big chance last night.

 

[esoteric]

Does anyone else think it's really strange that all of the ITK's turned up on here at the same time last week and then they all just disappeared again?

I’d hazard a guess that Glicksy’s lack of finesse brought on a shutdown from management. And I’d argue that’s a good response.

 

[ferrisb]

So Durdin is a midfielder but we’re playing him as a small forward ??

Can’t see how he breaks into the midfield group…particularly with two crook shoulders.

He’d be better off learning the small forward caper real quick.

Played as a mid until u16, then spent his last couple of junior/SANFL years as a small forward.

Was (is) never going to make it as an AFL mid.

At most maybe a high HF, a few cameos at clearances. But not as a full-time mid.

 

[TheBlueCampaigner]

After listening to the filth the last couple of days (Leppa and the flogs calling in on SEN) I’ve done a 180 on Houston out of spite. We must get him but need to go aground GCS to do it as the filth appears to have successfully shut us out there for the time being.

 

[Stamos]

Does anyone else think it's really strange that all of the ITK's turned up on here at the same time last week and then they all just disappeared again?

I hope we don't have to wait 6 years for another EP post

 

[CeeDee88]

I’d hazard a guess that Glicksy’s lack of finesse brought on a shutdown from management. And I’d argue that’s a good response.

I miss Glicky

 

[CeeDee88]

Got a weird feeling we will still end up with Houston by the end of this trade period

 

[koutashoulda1_1]

JSOS also has something that you can't teach, footy smarts. Just knows where to run and is not prone to brain fades like Kemp...

Imagine that's why we brought in Haynes. Smart, responsible player who can trust himself to make a decision with his positioning, kicking, and can halve a contest if needed.

Kemp does his best, but isnt that yet, and in trying to be wastes his obvious talents. Still feel he should be ran through the midfield. Both big bodied and quick.

JSOS could play a run with role up forward on the Tom Stewarts etc. Is responsible and smart enough to blanket them and can hurt them if they dont pay him appropriate levels of attention. Kemp might be a better fit for that role tho. Definitely see them fighting for a spot

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[SurreyBlue]

After listening to the filth the last couple of days (Leppa and the flogs calling in on SEN) I’ve done a 180 on Houston out of spite. We must get him but need to go aground GCS to do it as the filth appears to have successfully shut us out there for the time being.

I love this passion and despise for everything black and white, but it needs to return on field via our players.
They have become rabbits in headlights when we play the filth these days - and that sh1ts me more!!!!

 

[Banga19]

Got a weird feeling we will still end up with Houston by the end of this trade period

Me too. Houston + 2 quality picks in before the Campo boys. Probably decimates our 2025 draft hand but so be it!

 

[Stamos]

People seem to have glossed over Port missing on Cumming and Perryman.
It makes a huge difference to their willingness/desire to trade Houston, and to the price that makes sense for them to let him go.

 

[Stamos]

Me too. Houston + 2 quality picks in before the Campo boys. Probably decimates our 2025 draft hand but so be it!

How would that happen?
Can you show your workings?

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Won’t believe this until someone comes on here and and says “can confirm through my mutuals”…..

 

[Blue__Balls]

We were really good at scoring, its something we improved a lot from our 2023 season, the big problem is we went from the 5th best defence (maybe 4th) in 2023 to the 12th in 2024.

WE were the 18th ranked team from conceding goals from D50 stoppages, 10 goals worse than 17th, we were down the bottom all year.

It’s hard to rationalise how we were so bad for so long and we failed to address it mid season.

The footy shows on a few occasions showed Saad to be one of our worse culprits in this area which was a big surprise.

The positive out of this is, if we could defend as a group in 2023 and failed in 24 with the same group, we can get back to that in 25, its purely a coaching issue imo.

Attacking and defending don't exist in isolation.

The reality here is that we likely got worse at defending because we got better at attacking.

If we overtune it next year, we could go back to being better at defending but worse on attack again.

The tricky part is finding the balance between the two - how to score consistently without leaving yourself too exposed on the counter, and how to shut down opposition scores while leaving yourself avenues to rebound and score yourself.

It's partly a coaching thing, but it's just as much on the players. The coach can't play the game for them from the box, they need to be able to read the game and make the right decisions.