Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[Accidental genius]

Strewth.

I’m so conflicted as to whether I want Houston or not.

What an emotional rollercoaster.

Do we want him? Or not?
We do? We don’t?

We do? We don’t?

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You will want him and like it !

 

[Arr0w]

Might be the case but they are only offering pick 47 for Macrae. Hate to think what they would offer for Kennedy

Think there is a difference in who is paying what portion of Macrae's salary

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Yep. That would make sense.

Isn't he contracted? That makes no sense.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Might be the case but they are only offering pick 47 for Macrae. Hate to think what they would offer for Kennedy

Macrae has a large contract doesn't he? Fairly sure that is effectively a salary dump and not market value. Kennedy would be on a cheap or reasonable contract and is contracted and a lot younger than Macrae. Should be worth a 2nd Rounder at least.

 

[CJMB]

No it would not. Kennedy is worth a pick around 20.

I think that valuation is quite a bit inflated. The market wants midfielders with some combination of fast feet, leg speed, elite/damaging kicking in play, ability to play inside & out.

Those aren't Kennedy's strengths; he's a slower big bodied mid who's good overhead, a decent kick for goal and has some positional versatility. He'd be a good fit at a club that already has those types but lacks a presence at the contest, or wants a versatile inside mid who can also fill other holes (however it sounds like he's exploring options so he can play purely on-ball).

 

[Arr0w]

Macrae has a large contract doesn't he? Fairly sure that is effectively a salary dump and not market value. Kennedy would be on a cheap or reasonable contract and is contracted and a lot younger than Macrae. Should be worth a 2nd Rounder at least.

If we trade Kennedy, probably ends up a Fisher type deal where we upgrade pick/s

 

[Sam The Doc]

No it would not. Kennedy is worth a pick around 20.

Hmm not going to happen.

 

[carlton_99]

I never thought I'd be writing this sentence but it is being reported that Owies wants 700K-800K per year for his next contract...

Source: https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/t...ive-coverage/eba2e2a221ef14e27694d86eb092f92d

 

[DEliades]

Surely Owies wanting 7-800k a year is bullshit haha

 

[Arr0w]

Hmmm think Owies is looking at 3-4 years at 500K, which is still overs for mine

 

[bmaurizio]

One would accept Tigers compensation pick 42, although and not a great pick it would help with the Compreale boys releasing our 2nd rounder for a trade or player..

 

[Soapy V]

Soap do you think that we could package Kennedy with next year’s 1st to Richmond and maybe some minor tweaking of other picks for one of the picks they will get for Bolton/ Baker?? Just a thought

I honestly don't know. So many things happening and it's hard to get a read on things. One deal could affect so many others.

Reading between the lines on comments to me is there will be pick swaps etc to do deals that none of us have even discussed

If I was Austin I would be stressed. He could easily do some deals that will really help us or may walk away with little and be frustrated. Really earning his money this year

 

[Pablito]

I never thought I'd be writing this sentence but CodeSports is reporting that Owies wants 700K-800K per year for his next contract...

Source: https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/t...ive-coverage/eba2e2a221ef14e27694d86eb092f92d

If true Owies is sabotaging his career.

No club would pay him that unless they were desperate to reach the minimum total salary cap payments.

 

[Stamos]

Surely Owies wanting 7-800k a year is bullshit haha

I don't know, I want 7-800k a year...

 

[HereComesJuddy]

I don't know, I want 7-800k a year...

Make it a cool mil and we have a deal

 

[Stamos]

If true Owies is sabotaging his career.

No club would pay him that unless they were desperate to reach the minimum total salary cap payments.

Even then they wouldn't pay it

 

[Blue Bloods]

Houston isn’t just about the trade capital it is about the wage, Houston is a quality AFL footballer and would demand a good wage and rightly so and we would love to add him to the list.

But Weitering up for a new contract, TDK also must be priority over a good HBF. No idea where our cap is at but that will have just as big a say as draft picks. Trust the club to know what they are doing.

 

[Stamos]

Make it a cool mil and we have a deal

Done

 

[yibbida]

Not finding anyone interested in Owies and dumping him anyway has gotta be the dumbest move ever.

yep. Any player that is on the rookie list that plays regular AFL will be looking to get out of our club as fast as possible. He has probably been told for years (4 years as a Cat B rookie) that we would look after him if he keeps signing on for minimum wage....

 

[Sin City]

I never thought I'd be writing this sentence but it is being reported that Owies wants 700K-800K per year for his next contract...

Source: https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/t...ive-coverage/eba2e2a221ef14e27694d86eb092f92d

Per year? That’s two years salary for a player like Owies. Not sure what he’s thinking.

 

[Stamos]

Per year? That’s two years salary for a player like Owies. Not sure what he’s thinking.

His manager is not doing his job if he's asking for such an unrealistic contract.

 

[BigFrizz36]

yep. Any player that is on the rookie list that plays regular AFL will be looking to get out of our club as fast as possible. He has probably been told for years that we would look after him if he keeps signing on for minimum wage....

Refer post below yours.

 

[morningbrown]

yep. Any player that is on the rookie list that plays regular AFL will be looking to get out of our club as fast as possible. He has probably been told for years that we would look after him if he keeps signing on for minimum wage....

I just can't comprehend letting our 3rd best goal kicker go for nothing. I don't care about the "potential" of Motlop or Durdin or Moir. Owies has runs on the board and is our best small right now.

 

[SurreyBlue]

I think that valuation is quite a bit inflated. The market wants midfielders with some combination of fast feet, leg speed, elite/damaging kicking in play, ability to play inside & out.

Those aren't Kennedy's strengths; he's a slower big bodied mid who's good overhead, a decent kick for goal and has some positional versatility. He'd be a good fit at a club that already has those types but lacks a presence at the contest, or wants a versatile inside mid who can also fill other holes (however it sounds like he's exploring options so he can play purely on-ball).

Contested footy smart is a premium. Just ask Brisbane coach with Neil, Dunkley, McCluggage & Ashcroft - all full of pace.

 

[Jimmae]

If we could crack into the top ten then i'd be happy with two picks prior to the campos

From what I've seen and understand, it's pretty even from 6-30 in this draft, though I'd argue some are valued too highly in that mix.

Cody Walker

Yeah but he's going to need some help pretty quickly after he enters the league. He's basically replacing Cripps.

JSOS also has something that you can't teach, footy smarts. Just knows where to run and is not prone to brain fades like Kemp...

Time to lose the development coaches, video analysis work, and throw that money at the recruitment team then