Bottom four next year?

[Wonaeamirri33]

AG - Jonah had at least as good a season this year as McLean did in 2008 as far as I can see mate. He came back into some good form this time around after last year, And his 2007 season was substantially better. So yes, I think Jonah would be perfectly good in that role.

I'm not saying McLean is a particularly bad player - but yes, there are at least a few others within our ranks who can do the same job more than well enough without us needing to bother finding anyone else, and Jonah is certainly one of them.

I suggest that would be one of the main reasons why the club agreed to the trade as quickly as they did.

 

[Smyth94]

Losing Lovett will hurt Essendon next season - no doubt, hopefully we can obtain a decent player in that trade.

Losing Lloyd and Lucas hurt our experience levels but in terms of output this was their lowest for quite some time and we still managed to make the finals.

Gumby, Hurley and Neagle need to step up to fill the void, it's a big ask - but I'm confident it can be done. Especially by Hurley.

Losing Lovett in the middle will mean that we really have to fast track the development of Kyle Reimers in a midfield role or trade for a similar player. Reimers having a big pre-season is super important as whilst he doesn't have the pace of Lovett (he's no slouch), he has the skills to replace Lovett, along with aggression (which Lovett did not have).

 

[Big Fat Hutchy]

I definitely think they'll drop, but I don't think it will be for more than one season.

Essendon definitely have some good young guys. The problem is, whilst everyone seems to expect young guys to automatically improve in the next year, that's not always the case. It's common for players to have a good first year, and then either slide back a little bit for a year or simply stay on the same level, and then start improving again after that.

This is because they actually have to start playing every game, opposition coaches become more aware of them, they start to get better taggers/defenders, etc.

Obviously this isn't the case with every player, but when you've got a team that has a lot of young guys, you can't just say "well we were this good this year, and next year all the young guys will take another step up so we'll be even better!"

You also have to see if guys like Winderlich can have a similar season next year. He really took me by surprise this year. He was pretty much a trundler until now. So we'll see how he goes.

Essendon 2009 = Richmond 2008 ,actually the tigers even won more than 50% of their games that season unlike the bombers this season.

 

[Invigoration]

16 - Melbourne
15 - Richmond
14 - Essendon
13 - Freo/North

 

[damochandler]

i reckon port will run last next year. they loomk ordibary even with their best side in

 

[MVP_PaulRoos]

Bump.

Anyone who wants to predict Swans for bottom 4 next season, as is done before every new season, feel free to just copy/paste from this thread.

 

[Changaneen]

i reckon port will run last next year. they loomk ordibary even with their best side in

Hindsight is a good thing, but not quite.

 

[AG]

My bottom 4
13. Sydney - SOOO many retirements and so little youngsters coming through (relative to retiring stars)

Baha Godzke. I'll add that to your other post about us (the dump out of a building if Sydney finish above Essendon post).

 

[AG]

McLean leaving means Melbourne will be near certainties for bottom 4 again. I tipped them to climb but they have lost one of their experienced midfielders. Another kid to develop will cost them in the short term and potentially the long term.

Glad I was wrong on that.

A quick read over the thread shows that w=l and W33 will be happy with what they said about Melbourne. Most Essendon fans should unsubscribe.

Only two bottom 4's had WC, likewise Brisbane. Nearly everyone had Richmond, and a fair few had Essendon.

 

[zetz]

class thread

 

[legend166]

lol @ Essendon fans.

I still don't understand what caused them to hate us last year. But it's hilarious considering we're about to play a home final and their club completely imploded this year.

 

[AP Erebus]

A good bump.

Makes for hilarious reading

 

[Santana]

West Coast will make the 8 in 2010. I can't believe some are including them in their bottom 4.

 

[ziad]

No sure why Freo get so many mentions. Quite a young list gaining experience.

I would suspend all betting until after GC anounce their takings and the trade period that will follow.

 

[Military_man]

13. Richmond
14. Port Adelaide
15. Essendon
16. West Coast

 

[RizzoTheRat]

Freo fans must be having a laugh.

As for the Swans, I was expecting to be there abouts for the finals but I wasn't expecting the draftees such of Kennedy, McGlynn, Mumford and the younger brigade such as Jack, Hanners and Dennis-Lane to have such an impact.

Demons fans would be happy with there improvement.

I guessing Bombers fans would be pretty disappointed.

 

[whelan=legend]

LOL at this woefully inept and wrongheaded appraisal (*cough* troll *cough*), based on utter darkness and ignorance. The bit about our ruck stocks was particularly amusing... Jamar comprehensively won the ruck duel against your mob last time out, and I'd be very surprised if he doesn't do exactly the same next time!

No doubt you've barely seen my team play - hence the terribly well-informed comments I see from you about us, but I'd at least have thought you'd have watched games involving your OWN side...

Wona33 owned with this call. I'm pretty sure Jamar smashed the living daylights out of the Jolly/Fraser combo on two seperate occasions this year.

 

[whelan=legend]

wont lie i havent watched 22 melbourne games, hardly an appealing side to watch tbh. Do watch a lot of footy though to know that melbourne isnt going to get out of the bottom 4 for a while yet.

Good call, you seem like a smart poster.

 

[Bollox]

North
Dees
Suns
Weagles

 

[I'm the Juggernaut]

Just thinking through the likely teams to finish in the bottom four next year. Would like to get a perspective from people regarding who will finish in that bracket. I beleive its very hard to judge the bottom four, you can go with the obvious fremantle, rich, melbourne and roos but is that likely to happen next year? Immediately i start thinking Sydney and Port, but then i have a feeling they might do ok? And every year i expect freo to get up but they dissapoint!!

Thoughts?

whatever

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Wona33 owned with this call. I'm pretty sure Jamar smashed the living daylights out of the Jolly/Fraser combo on two separate occasions this year.

Damn straight mate, very well said

I was very confident at the end of last season that the Russky would have a big year in 2010, and obviously time has proven me very right on that score!

Love the way this thread's turned out too... vindication is so sweet, isn't it, especially given the cringeworthy conceit we were seeing at the end of last year from certain opposition types, with all their horribly misplaced arrogance at that time.

PS- Seems like the shrinking bollocks from Sydney a couple of posts up from me here hasn't grasped reality yet though...

North
Dees
Suns
Weagles

Some people don't have the sensory apparatus God gave a mole... has this boy even watched any of the AFL this season? How can anyone be so blind...

 

[Blues_Man]

not many people expecting west coast to finish bottom four next year, good signs

No ..as it turns out it's very bad signs for your mob.

 

[bradrowe#32]

Wona33 owned with this call. I'm pretty sure Jamar smashed the living daylights out of the Jolly/Fraser combo on two seperate occasions this year.

Can't wait to see how Jamar goes in the finals this week.

 

[Majinbuu]

Port Adelaide
Gold Coast
West Coast
Essendon

 

[Blues_Man]

Carlton will finish last.

Thank you for highlighting your total ignorance .