Brian Cook- Carlton to win at least one flag next 5 years

[Freomaniac]

Cling to them mate, all i remember is that they just played in a prelim.

Well the dockers have won a final the year before.

 

[Robertio]

Well the dockers have won a final the year before.

Yeah they did mate, I'm not knocking them.

 

[Worm4]

There are currently 22 premiership points and 12 ladder positions between Carlton and Collingwood, and it's only round 11...

I wonder what the difference will be once the thread 'plays out'?

Wasn't much difference in the end. Had a bruise free win against the eventual premiers , and finished the season well.
2 places behind Collingwood.
Going by the tone of your post , you clearly thought that the difference would extend , rather than close up.

 

[Fadge]

Wasn't much difference in the end. Had a bruise free win against the eventual premiers , and finished the season well.
2 places behind Collingwood.
Going by the tone of your post , you clearly thought that the difference would extend , rather than close up.

You're quoting a post of mine, from 4 months ago, less than a week after Collingwood won the flag?

Wowee.

 

[Taper]

Well the dockers have won a final the year before.

Do you think Carlton can win a flag between now and 2027?
Cook is the right man for CEO but still has a lot of work ahead of him.

 

[Freomaniac]

Do you think Carlton can win a flag between now and 2027?
Cook is the right man for CEO but still has a lot of work ahead of him.

Yes they could. I wont be shocked if Carlton make a grand final between this season in 2024 and 2027.

 

[Taper]

Yes they could. I wont be shocked if Carlton make a grand final between this season in 2024 and 2027.

Voss spent a long time as an assistant to the brilliant mind.
That has to count for something, along with Voss being a born winner who hates losing.

 

[My Tilly]

Yes they could. I wont be shocked if Carlton make a grand final between this season in 2024 and 2027.

They feel like Port Adelaide.
Too much reliance on a select few when it comes to crunch time in the finals.

 

[NetworkNerd]

Brave person to only tip one flag with the list they have

 

[Jeremias]

They feel like Port Adelaide.
Too much reliance on a select few when it comes to crunch time in the finals.

Very odd comment. Who are these “select few”?

 

[My Tilly]

Very odd comment. Who are these “select few”?

Odd comment you think?
So if Curnow does his knee, you think you have a solid forward line to get it done with that average back-line of yours?

 

[Jeremias]

Odd comment you think?
So if Curnow does his knee, you think you have a solid forward line to get it done with that average back-line of yours?

Don’t shift the goal posts now.

Which few were we overly reliant upon through the finals?

Curnow can’t be one, he didn’t fire a shot.

 

[My Tilly]

Don’t shift the goal posts now.

Which few were we overly reliant upon through the finals?

Curnow can’t be one, he didn’t fire a shot.

You are right.
Your depth is superb and even if you lost a Curnow or a Cripps, you are still a premiership team.

 

[Jeremias]

You are right.
Your depth is superb and even if you lost a Curnow or a Cripps, you are still a premiership team.

Why deflect?

I’m asking you to tell me who we were overly reliant upon last year through the finals.

Pretty simple question, no?

 

[Freomaniac]

Brave person to only tip one flag with the list they have

true... But Injuries, form and close games will have decided the fates and outcomes too.


People said Gold coast in 2011 was gonna dominate the AFL .

and when GWS came in 2012, them along with Gold coast were gonna win flags between them each year from 2015-2024 with all the draft picks they had.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

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Same can be said for every team's key pillars... Just more trolling from old mate

 

[VinnieB]

Why deflect?

I’m asking you to tell me who we were overly reliant upon last year through the finals.

Pretty simple question, no?

Walsh

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

About right i would say a bit sooner next 2-3 years.

 

[Juddernaut08]

You are right.
Your depth is superb and even if you lost a Curnow or a Cripps, you are still a premiership team.

Injury luck affects all teams with superstars in their prime right?

Look how shit your cats were without a fit Cameron last year.

 

[BlueJet]

Would be nice..

 

[Taper]

Brave person to only tip one flag with the list they have

Richmond won three flags with a list said to have an elite top five with little else to write home about.
Not saying Carlton are on the verge of three flags but you never know, and it's worth remembering that Port are aiming to win three flags in five years.

 

[My Tilly]

Richmond won three flags with a list said to have an elite top five with little else to write home about.
Not saying Carlton are on the verge of three flags but you never know, and it's worth remembering that Port are aiming to win three flags in five years.

Mate, they're no where near it. Seriously, Carlton are only just working out how to consistently hang with the best teams in the competition. It'll take them at least 2 years before they finally work it all out. They haven't even experienced the constant heartache of finals failure. Just because they sneaked past Melbourne in last years finals with Gawn running around with a broken foot, does not mean they are going a step further.

GWS, Sydney, Melbourne, Collingwood will handle them in the finals. They have to hope they meet a Brisbane or Port Adelaide as they are likely to choke in a semi final etc.

 

[Taper]

Mate, they're no where near it. Seriously, Carlton are only just working out how to consistently hang with the best teams in the competition. It'll take them at least 2 years before they finally work it all out. They haven't even experienced the constant heartache of finals failure. Just because they sneaked past Melbourne in last years finals with Gawn running around with a broken foot, does not mean they are going a step further.

GWS, Sydney, Melbourne, Collingwood will handle them in the finals. They have to hope they meet a Brisbane or Port Adelaide as they are likely to choke in a semi final etc.

Same things were being said about Richmond under Hardwick, remember when they shat the bed in finals in 2013/2014/2015 before the arse fell out of the joint in 2016?

Richmond had five good players - Deledio, Cotchin, Riewoldt, Rance and Martin.
Carlton have five good players - Curnow, McKay, Weitering, Walsh and Cripps.

The competition isn't any stronger now than it was back then either, because having 18 teams has diluted the talent pool - and it's only going to get worse with Tasmania coming.

My point is this Carlton side is filled with role players after their top five - very similar to the Richmond sides under Hardwick, and could pinch a flag if they finish top 4 and play non Vic sides at the MCG.

 

[My Tilly]

Same things were being said about Richmond under Hardwick, remember when they shat the bed in finals in 2013/2014/2015 before the arse fell out of the joint in 2016?

They still went through pain and suffering for years before rectifying things in 2017.
Carlton have only just made finals for the first time in a decade, too many teams been on the cusp and have the experience to counter them.

 

[Blue1980]

They still went through pain and suffering for years before rectifying things in 2017.
Carlton have only just made finals for the first time in a decade, too many teams been on the cusp and have the experience to counter them.

No ones path is the same, we could win zero flags, 1 flag or 3 flags, no one knows what will happen next 5 years.

Dees only had 2018 finals experience to call upon in 2021, didn’t seem to affect them too much. They did have some poor years particularly 2019 and narrowly missing finals both 2017 and 2020, but point still stands you don’t necessarily have to multiple finals to win a flag.

It's more having the right players, right experience levels and fit and firing at the right time of year.