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St Kilda is in Melbourne where AFL is very popular and despite their lowly finishes, they just had cupcakes to celebrate 33,000 members.

Careful... he may give us his sophisticated plan to fix the Lions low membership problem.

1. Get more members.
 

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No other club has had trouble lol. St kilda have even moved in to a new training base and decided it wasn't good enough and have just announced they are building another one!
Right. Except for, you know, the Gold Coast who only just started getting training facilities beyond some demountables. And funnily enough they're the club in the closest situation to us. Go figure.

So yeah, pretty sure you're just trolling now so you should probably give it a rest.
 
No other club has had trouble lol. St kilda have even moved in to a new training base and decided it wasn't good enough and have just announced they are building another one!

I would say they've had trouble given they are building another one
 
To reach that conclusion, you would have to:

a. know in detail our complex arrangements with the Gabba, and the funding and space issues finding another facility in Brisbane; and/or
b. assume that no-one in our club hierarchy (including Leigh Matthews and Greg Swann, amongst others) had the idea that maybe we could just fix up the Gabba.

You happy with those choices?

What about the restraint of funding choice?
 
And I'm not getting angry lol Dogs have a nice facility. Because we payed for most of it. Might put you in debt but if you want new facilitys you have to be willing to pay some for them.

Because "we" paid for it? You are saying the Western Bulldogs paid for your facilities upgrade?

Hate to break it to you, but straight from the Bulldogs website, September 15th 2014:
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-09-15/dogs-announce-15-million-whitten-oval-upgrade
The upgrade, delivered in partnership with the Victoria State Government ($500,000), Maribyrnong City Council ($500,000) and the AFL ($250,000) will bring the Oval’s match day facilities up to VFL standard including new change-rooms, coaches’ boxes and ground lighting improvements.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but those maths indicate a $250,000 shortfall. That looks like what the Bullies "paid" for that last upgrade. I'm guessing that might have come from the Smorgon or Gordon family anyway. As I said, guess.

That wasn't the major upgrade, which dates back a few years before that. Are you saying the Bullies "paid" for that as well?!?!

The Lions don't have that sort of Government support or Council support. But you would have known that if you'd studied the issue. You would have known about the rent charges. You would have known that the comparison between the ownership of the Western Oval and the Gabba means your idea was completely meaningless. You would have known what the Bullies actually paid. Sorry S.T.K., you've just waltzed in here for some reason, thrown out a thought bubble with zero knowledge, and it popped before it left your keyboard.

And you seem to be wondering why.

Here's a thought. Usually people who put "LOL" in their own emails, when the email clearly isn't funny, are usually struggling with an argument, because they're providing "factual" thoughts which are nothing more than stale chin dribble.
 
You just go online. Go to AFLtrainingfacility. com and press ADD TO CART and pay using credit card or Paypal. It's simple.

Shipping really kills the deal.
 
What you see online;
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What comes in the mail;
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Because "we" paid for it? You are saying the Western Bulldogs paid for your facilities upgrade?

Hate to break it to you, but straight from the Bulldogs website, September 15th 2014:
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-09-15/dogs-announce-15-million-whitten-oval-upgrade
The upgrade, delivered in partnership with the Victoria State Government ($500,000), Maribyrnong City Council ($500,000) and the AFL ($250,000) will bring the Oval’s match day facilities up to VFL standard including new change-rooms, coaches’ boxes and ground lighting improvements.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but those maths indicate a $250,000 shortfall. That looks like what the Bullies "paid" for that last upgrade. I'm guessing that might have come from the Smorgon or Gordon family anyway. As I said, guess.

That wasn't the major upgrade, which dates back a few years before that. Are you saying the Bullies "paid" for that as well?!?!

The Lions don't have that sort of Government support or Council support. But you would have known that if you'd studied the issue. You would have known about the rent charges. You would have known that the comparison between the ownership of the Western Oval and the Gabba means your idea was completely meaningless. You would have known what the Bullies actually paid. Sorry S.T.K., you've just waltzed in here for some reason, thrown out a thought bubble with zero knowledge, and it popped before it left your keyboard.

And you seem to be wondering why.

Here's a thought. Usually people who put "LOL" in their own emails, when the email clearly isn't funny, are usually struggling with an argument, because they're providing "factual" thoughts which are nothing more than stale chin dribble.
In case anyone else reads this the way I did, it's a $1.5 million upgrade, not 15 million like the url says.
 
In case anyone else reads this the way I did, it's a $1.5 million upgrade, not 15 million like the url says.
Yep totally.

Interesting when they did their big upgrade of the Whitten Oval in 2005-ish it was allegedly funded from various sources, including the Fed Govt, the State Govt, the AFL, the City of Maribyrnong, and the Western Bulldogs Forever Foundation (read as large family corporate donors - and good on them for putting in their bit of course at $5.7m). I've seen a total upgrade estimation at $31m, but I'm not sure if that included the more recent $1.5m upgrade I previously mentioned.

Bottom line is their was some funding from 'the Bulldogs', but it wasn't as if they went to their own cash holdings and wrote a cheque. Some special supporters with some decent family money put their hands in their pockets. But so did Govt at various levels, to an enormous extent.
 
Bottom line is their was some funding from 'the Bulldogs', but it wasn't as if they went to their own cash holdings and wrote a cheque. Some special supporters with some decent family money put their hands in their pockets. But so did Govt at various levels, to an enormous extent.

Correct and some of their donors are very wealthy families and include two families from their past (David Smorgon of Smorgon Steel) and present (Peter Gordon of Slater & Gordon) Presidents.

Without having looked into the cost of what other club's spend on upgrading their facilities, clearly it requires a combination of Fed and State Gov't, Local Council, AFL and wealthy benefactor funding, which the Lions seem to be lacking on all fronts. There is no denying we have a couple of very wealthy benefactors on our board and in the wings, although that alone won't get us the facility we so desperately need.
 
Brisbane Lions consider move to Logan after council offers land and funding for new training base
THE Lions are considering a move to Logan, after the city council emerged as a shock white knight with an offer for vacant land and funding for a new training and administration base.

Logan City Council are positioning themselves as a base for elite sporting organisations and are proposing the Lions to use a 10ha parcel of land that had been earmarked for a greyhound track.

The $12m proposal for the development of Cronulla Park was canned after the live greyhound baiting scandal broke that led to sacking of the Racing Queensland board.

It is understood the $12m earmarked for the development of the track could be redirected to the Lions to build the facility.

The Lions are exploring other options at the Brisbane Airport and Coorparoo, but have been unable to secure any state, local or federal government funding.

Lions CEO Greg Swann would not divulge the details of any offer, but confirmed he had met with Logan City deputy mayor Russell Lutton two weeks ago.
 
Just a first reaction, but it rather sounds like the sort of news you leak in order to pressure someone else to offer you more favourable terms.

I don't know a lot about SE Queensland geography, but moving the club's base to Logan on the face of it seems to bring a lot more challenges than advantages.
 

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