Bush's "Israel should finish the job" speech

[just maybe]

Reagan was a great US president - one of the best IMO. However many on here wouldn't agree. Conservative = Evil is usually the thinking.

You disgust me.

How many times have I told you to read about the Reagan Administration's actions in Latin America?

Get an education, you spooner prat. Reagan's reign will be remembered in Latin America as the period of some of their most brutal and horrific years in a long history, all because of Reagan's sponsorship of military juntas that make Hezbollah look like angels.

Do you even know about the Iran-contra scandal? El Salvador? Guatemala? Nicaragua? Iraq-Iran war? Do you know the body count in Central America during Reagan's years? Do you know what the School of the Americas is?

Serously, your ignorance is astounding.

 

[just maybe]

Trust me im looking at both sides in this conflict

No, you're not. Every time someone points out the history of Israeli atrocities, you run off.

 

[IntheNet]

Do you even know about the Iran-contra scandal? El Salvador? Guatemala? Nicaragua? Iraq-Iran war? Do you know the body count in Central America during Reagan's years? Do you know what the School of the Americas is?

This thread is about Israel fighting the terrorists; save your liberal leftist rants for an appropriate thread...

 

[just maybe]

This thread is about Israel fighting the terrorists; save your liberal leftist rants for an appropriate thread...

I didn't raise Reagan, your good chum camsmith did.

And did you want to talk to me about the death toll in Central America during the 80s? Perhaps you could explain how its 'liberal leftist' to be disgusted by that?

 

[IntheNet]

...the death toll in Central America during the 80s...

The United States had nothing at all to do with deaths in Central America during the 1980s... if we did they wouldn't be sneaking across our borders at night begging to become American citizens!!!

 

[Goldenblue]

As opposed to USA supporting the terrorists (Hamas + Hezbollah) which would make you happy?

The USA are supporting terrorists - Israel.

 

[IntheNet]

The USA are supporting terrorists...

Did you watch the parades of Hezbolllah in Lebanon before this war... did you hear translation of what the Hezbollah were saying during parades? Did you note the children of Hezbollah terrorists wearing costume bombs strapped to their chests in parades? DO you know what it is like to lose relative in terrorist bombing? Do you deny reality often?

 

[just maybe]

The United States had nothing at all to do with deaths in Central America during the 1980s... if we did they wouldn't be sneaking across our borders at night begging to become American citizens!!!

They had everything to do with it, you idiot.

 

[just maybe]

Did you watch the parades of Hezbolllah in Lebanon before this war... did you hear translation of what the Hezbollah were saying during parades? Did you note the children of Hezbollah terrorists wearing costume bombs strapped to their chests in parades? DO you know what it is like to lose relative in terrorist bombing? Do you deny reality often?

Do you know what it is like to lose a relative to an Israeli airstrike? Do you deny reality often?

 

[Marns]

Did you watch the parades of Hezbolllah in Lebanon before this war... did you hear translation of what the Hezbollah were saying during parades? Did you note the children of Hezbollah terrorists wearing costume bombs strapped to their chests in parades? DO you know what it is like to lose relative in terrorist bombing? Do you deny reality often?

It's a two-way street. Could your bias be any clearer? You have a go at "leftists" for being "biased" among other things, but your view is clearly tainted. Both sides are as bad as the other, yet you see what you want to see, and continue critising those who see more than one side to the story. Have to admit though, you're good for a laugh - nothing more than a joke.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Why does it seem , even in this case in Australia, and with the World Trade Centre 1993 , that we can infiltrate these organisations , yet we ( or the Polizia ) allow them to cause terror? Is it a tool of governments to utilise terror to control the population?

Bingo. MI-5 or 6 infiltrating IRA, Mossad creating Hamas in the 70's, US supporting al-qaeda, Hitler burning the Reichstag, 9/11 hijackers being protected by the FBI etc

 

[Demonic Ascent]

The United States had nothing at all to do with deaths in Central America during the 1980s... if we did they wouldn't be sneaking across our borders at night begging to become American citizens!!!

Holy ***** here we go. The US was responsible for war crimes bordering on genocide in Central America in the 80's. They trained dictators and death squads at the School of the Americas and set them loose to murder, rape, pillage and plunder in the name of fighting communism and protecting corporatism in Central America but instead led to the defeat of popular democratic and socialist movements and resulted in the extermination of many of their followers.

Funny how one of the main men in orchestrating these war crimes, John Negroponte, was made Ambassador to the UN by King George 2nd rather than being locked up for life or executed for his crimes.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

You disgust me.

How many times have I told you to read about the Reagan Administration's actions in Latin America?

Get an education, you spooner prat. Reagan's reign will be remembered in Latin America as the period of some of their most brutal and horrific years in a long history, all because of Reagan's sponsorship of military juntas that make Hezbollah look like angels.

Do you even know about the Iran-contra scandal? El Salvador? Guatemala? Nicaragua? Iraq-Iran war? Do you know the body count in Central America during Reagan's years? Do you know what the School of the Americas is?

Serously, your ignorance is astounding.

Not to mention the fact that he was a puppet president just reading his lines like the good actor he was who made his name naming names in the 50's.

 

[dan warna]

ITN in denial, the massacre in panama, the overt support for rebel groups, terrorists, militias, anti-democratic juntas.

the US imprint in south america and central america has a long history of being anti democratic and murderous.

 

[Mofra]

The United States had nothing at all to do with deaths in Central America during the 1980s... if we did they wouldn't be sneaking across our borders at night begging to become American citizens!!!

The most mis-informed post ever of BF, congratulations!
You've won 20 litres of "harmless" DDT & half a ton of "miracle building material" asbestos!

 

[Demonic Ascent]

ITN in denial, the massacre in panama, the overt support for rebel groups, terrorists, militias, anti-democratic juntas.

the US imprint in south america and central america has a long history of being anti democratic and murderous.

But they were not terrorists were they? No they were freedom fighters the equivalent of the USA's founding fathers according to good ol' Ronnie.

 

[London Dave]

Don't you dare say that Americans are not willing to step up to the plate to defend freedom and take on the terrorists.

never said they weren't willing to 'step up to the plate', they do. It's a pity those they'd have made the 'sacrifice' have probably done so in vain, much like the dead from Vietnam. Unfortunately the US isn't prepared to shed the blood necessary to achive victory, so they let proxies (Israel, or ARVN) do it for them....the greatest military power the world has ever seen still cant control Iraq or Afghanistan....face it, you've lost your cojones!

 

[camsmith]

f'ing braindead republican babykilling ****! It's people like you that're so confident in their shining ignorance that are the main danger to life on this planet. Go **** your mum.

Intelligent response.

 

[camsmith]

I didn't raise Reagan, your good chum camsmith did.

Might want to look at that one again, I was simply agreeing with someone else on Reagan

You are so pathetic.

 

[CharlieG]

Don't you dare say that Americans are not willing to step up to the plate to defend freedom

Americans aren't even willing to step up to the plate within their own borders.

 

[stickman11]

Americans aren't even willing to step up to the plate within their own borders.

America is supposedly the land of democracy and freedom. Foolishly, only Amerricans foolishly lap up this belief. America is anything but democratic or free and the more their loony leaders push the terrorism agenda, the more American's are being screwed.

But they are scared so they are blind.

September 11 wasn't a victory for terrorism but rather American political interests in control. That has followed on to many nations including Australia where politicians and police have far too many powers that would never have been accepted if the public hadn't been frightened by the images they see on television and the constant political colour coded terror alerts.

 

[camsmith]

September 11 wasn't a victory for terrorism but rather American political interests in control. That has followed on to many nations including Australia where politicians and police have far too many powers that would never have been accepted if the public hadn't been frightened by the images they see on television and the constant political colour coded terror alerts.

Wow, do share with us all how you managed to get hold of Osama Bin Laden's notes?

 

[just maybe]

Might want to look at that one again, I was simply agreeing with someone else on Reagan

You are so pathetic.

Ah, I see you couldn't respond to the actual issue and just focused on some piddly 'whodunnit' attack instead.

So, cam. About the Latin America stuff? Why won't you comment on that?

You called Reagan a great president, yet you constantly ignore the death toll he is responsible for in Central America.

Yet another spooner double standard?

 

[camsmith]

Ah, I see you couldn't respond to the actual issue and just focused on some piddly 'whodunnit' attack instead.

So, cam. About the Latin America stuff? Why won't you comment on that?

You called Reagan a great president, yet you constantly ignore the death toll he is responsible for in Central America.

Yet another spooner double standard?

I was correcting you.

I believe this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. However, i should ask you to show me one president, or one leader for that matter that has had a 100% record and had no failures. Given how Castro was hoping the region would turn out as.. its looking pretty good at the moment - or better than it was.

However this should be discussed elsewhere.

 

[sydney eagle]

Just thought that I would ad da "left field" comment to this debate with a quote from Brigadier General Smedley D Butler. "War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest,surely the most vicious.It is the only one international in scope.It is the only one in which the profits are measured in dollars and the losses in lives". This was written in 1935. Nothing has changed since Butler wrote those words, except that more of the general populace seem prepared to sanction this racket now than ever before !