Can Port win a premiership under Ken Hinkley?

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Tough Call.... for once I am 50-50 on it.

I want Justin Longmuir to have some success as a dockers coach. He is a Former dockers player too.

Would Hinkley be an upgrade? I dont know.

But if He emulates his finals success like Port in 2013-23, thats a solid run.


Um well... Here is the thing....

So you say Ken Hinkleys finals era of 2013-21 is "mediocrity" right? I think thats a solid run. 5 finals wins in 9 years is solid, despite the lack of flag or grand final appearances.

A sustained finals run in 2013-4, finals in 2017, sustained finals run in 2020-21 and finals in 2023 is solid.

Hell you could take away the 2013 elim final vs magpies and 2014 semi final vs Freo, I still say its a Still solid finals run. Even if its only 3 finals wins between 2013-23. Port has not bottomed out and recruited well. They are not exactly in "no mans land".

Hell I would even say this... I wouldnt mind Ken Hinkley or freos current coach in Justin Longmuir have a stint Like Brad Scotts stint at North Melbourne from 2010-2019.

never did finish top 4 ladder wise. But 4 finals wins in 10 seasons isnt bad. yeah they were in just that 2014-16 period, but at least it was a sustained finals run.

Mediocrity for me is Freos 1st 17th years in the comp from 1995-2011. only in 2003, 2006 and 2010 freo made finals.

classic freo, just happy to be playing in the big league

losing and failure are in your DNA
(inb4 wce won the spoon in 2023)
 

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Tough Call.... for once I am 50-50 on it.

I want Justin Longmuir to have some success as a dockers coach. He is a Former dockers player too.

Would Hinkley be an upgrade? I dont know.

But if He emulates his finals success like Port in 2013-23, thats a solid run.


Um well... Here is the thing....

So you say Ken Hinkleys finals era of 2013-21 is "mediocrity" right? I think thats a solid run. 5 finals wins in 9 years is solid, despite the lack of flag or grand final appearances.

A sustained finals run in 2013-4, finals in 2017, sustained finals run in 2020-21 and finals in 2023 is solid.

Hell you could take away the 2013 elim final vs magpies and 2014 semi final vs Freo, I still say its a Still solid finals run. Even if its only 3 finals wins between 2013-23. Port has not bottomed out and recruited well. They are not exactly in "no mans land".

Hell I would even say this... I wouldnt mind Ken Hinkley or freos current coach in Justin Longmuir have a stint Like Brad Scotts stint at North Melbourne from 2010-2019.

never did finish top 4 ladder wise. But 4 finals wins in 10 seasons isnt bad. yeah they were in just that 2014-16 period, but at least it was a sustained finals run.

Mediocrity for me is Freos 1st 17th years in the comp from 1995-2011. only in 2003, 2006 and 2010 freo made finals.

That's not mediocrity mate that's just shit. Being a bit better than one of the worst teams in the comp is not really something to celebrate.
 
That's not mediocrity mate that's just s**t. Being a bit better than one of the worst teams in the comp is not really something to celebrate.
Both port Adelaide and Freo have lost tonight.

At least ken Hinkley had given your side 5 finals wins in 10-12 seasons.

Justin Longmuir had given Freo 1 finals win in 5 seasons
 
Can we please have some external Vic media pressure of Ken soon?

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And yet Hinkley can't compete with Scott's 2 premierships and 3 grand final appearances. The bottom out excuse doesn't make any sense, since there's premiership teams who bottomed out under the same coach but actually achieved success, unlike Hinkley who just beats bottom 10 teams and can't make 1 grand final in 11 seasons, soon to be 12. I don't see people defending Buckley getting fired, because everybody knows he's an inferior coach compared to the premiership coach McRae, but people pretend there's no difference between how good a coach is.
Hinkley has a 2-1 record against Scott in finals.
I'm not surprised that Scott thinks Hinkley is a great coach.
 

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Hinkley has a 2-1 record against Scott in finals.
I'm not surprised that Scott thinks Hinkley is a great coach.
Geez, I hanged my hat thinking we finally turned a corner by wining those 2 QF finals against the Cats.

But nope, those weren't cut throat games and we haven't won a cut throat final since the SF against Freo in 2014.

Our record against other premiership contenders during the season is diabolically poor.
 
How is a showdown an away game?

He didn’t say it was an “away game”, it just makes sense to refer to home/away Showdowns for supporters of that team when talking about which one.

I’m sure if he said “Showdown 34” you wouldn’t have had a clue which game he is talking about.

“Our away Showdown in 2016” tells you which one it is.

Hardly a point worth arguing ffs. Save the bandwidth for christs sake.
 
They’ve got no excuses now. Young but good midfield, multiple tall forward options, reinforced the backline (got size there now, losing McKenzie/Jonas/Clurey playing undersized), reinforced the ruck (not better than peak Lycett but better than recent Lycett).

To get spanked by the Pies in the way they did - yeah it’s only round 6 but got to be closer than that. Hard to see how they close the gap to the Pies. Hard to see how they’ve closed the gap from the semi final to now with GWS. Blues unknown as a match-up as I think Port lost their focus last year (had the Pies the next week), but a 50 pt smacking is still a long way off.

Wonder whether one issue is they have a lot of skilful players - but do those skilful players win enough contests? Thinking of the half backs in particular, Farrell & Burton types. WHE & Lipinski & Hill were dominant as small forward/flankers. Who did Houston play on? Was he too busy drifting up to play the ball and WHE or Lipinski was often his opponent?

You need one on one winners so you can always halve at least pivotal contests.
If you don’t have them, structure needs to be perfect. And not sure Hinkley can cover that.

I can’t see how it’d be a bad thing to change coaches now. The midfield alone gives a new coach a huge amount to work with.
 
So the senior coach has nothing to do with the mental attitude of the players? A coach that's been there for literally their entire careers and has worked through several different lists. The same mentally weak collapses during big games and big moments. That's nothing to do with the loser mentality senior coach who spends a decade talking up how scary the opposition is?

His good h&A record is a myth propped up by an almost perfect winning record against the gold coast, norf and st Kilda. Almost 30 wins there.

He's a complete loser and has bred the most mentally weak side in the comp. Stop making excuses for this colossal failure. You know you wouldn't accept it at your club.

I think the other poster knows this - I’m quite sure he he does not truly believe the game was split into Q1) listened to Kenny & Q2-4) didn’t listen to Kenny
 
All comes down to that midfield. They look amazing on paper but collectively, they aren't turning up on the day and one has an off day and they fall away.

Cameron killed Soldo in ruck. Soldo was embarrassing yesterday. Kane Cornes thinks they can only play one ruck but Soldo is not a number one ruckman. He's a second banana.
 
Both port Adelaide and Freo have lost tonight.

At least ken Hinkley had given your side 5 finals wins in 10-12 seasons.

Justin Longmuir had given Freo 1 finals win in 5 seasons
I'm sure Port fans would be more than happy to have Longmuir if it meant being rid of Hinkley.
 

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