Docherty is no longer a defender.
ZW has proven to be uncompetitive as a defender (needs to be more competitive overall & contest, wherever he plays, which has been sounded out as a forward for ‘25).
Grimes was cooked.
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ZW has proven to be uncompetitive as a defender (needs to be more competitive overall & contest, wherever he plays, which has been sounded out as a forward for ‘25).
Grimes was cooked.
That’s debatable - Doc may be better suited running straight lines from the back after his knee & I’ve never rated him as CB mid.
ZW did look good forward but if fit could certainly pinch hit down back.
We have plenty of depth for small defender/HB
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This is a so called super draft, so players are likely cheaper and picks are worth a premium..
Don’t see Oliver being a Bowes type salary dump.. Melbourne would be stupid to give Oliver away for nothing in this draft…
Oliver and Smith would be worth a minimum of a top 12 pick each..
If we could pry SDK loose, we’d have to prioritise this.
The below may work:
Carlton > SDK
Geelong > Oliver
Melbourne > Pick 11
Then do a Cooney mega trade below:
Carlton > Houston
Port > Pick 15 (Geelong)
Dogs > Pick 12 (Suns)
Geelong > Smith & Pick 31 (Carlton)
Suns > F1 (Geelong) & F1 (Carlton)
Carlton’s Defence 2025
Newman - SDK - Weitering
Houston - McGovern - Saad
Then use the Kennedy, Owies, Young picks at the draft or combine to trade up… I’d also move on other players to make it fit cap wise, if needed…
Don’t see Oliver being a Bowes type salary dump.. Melbourne would be stupid to give Oliver away for nothing in this draft…
Oliver and Smith would be worth a minimum of a top 12 pick each..
If we could pry SDK loose, we’d have to prioritise this.
The below may work:
Carlton > SDK
Geelong > Oliver
Melbourne > Pick 11
Then do a Cooney mega trade below:
Carlton > Houston
Port > Pick 15 (Geelong)
Dogs > Pick 12 (Suns)
Geelong > Smith & Pick 31 (Carlton)
Suns > F1 (Geelong) & F1 (Carlton)
Carlton’s Defence 2025
Newman - SDK - Weitering
Houston - McGovern - Saad
Then use the Kennedy, Owies, Young picks at the draft or combine to trade up… I’d also move on other players to make it fit cap wise, if needed…
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Definitely Sam MacLure.
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One of the biggest bullets this footy club has ever dodged.
Saints got wanganeen-milers and Owens from academies didn’t they. They shouldn’t Complain.Er, OK... I mentioned it once?! Not sure I'm on the same soapbox as Andrew Bassett...
Geez this place is peaking tonight lol
Not Wanganeen-Milera but definitely Owens
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Owens and Windhager were academy picks
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Send Owies and F1 to GC for 12.
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Should get 46 back too... puts Owies at around 31-38 in value.
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They always were.. the speculation was that were wanting multiple valuable picks headlined by 11.
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Doc was playing further up the ground, whether that was due to deficiencies elsewhere or by design is up for debate. I dont mind him in the midfield playing a more defensive role, I feel when he & Pittonet (not advocating for him ahead of TDK) were in there we were less porous defensively.
That we're in a position to deploy players elsewhere (Doc, Williams & Kemp) & still have AFL quality players stepping in to these positions probably highlights how well we are stocked for attacking small-medium defenders.
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Yep, any system where the cost of ‘compensation’ is largely borne by the recruiter rather than the rest of the comp.
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100%. It makes no sense that if a whole bunch of free agents are flipping clubs then clubs that have nothing to do with it suddenly have worse draft picks.
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The compensation piece should be thrown out the window immediately.
This is supposed to be run by adults, you know where a player is in a position to leave and his employer either makes an offer good enough for him to stay or they wish him well and send him on his way.
Sorta like what happens in the real world.
There's mechanisms that help stop turning the competition into the Premier league and then there's just stupid shit.
Perhaps all compo picks should only be given after the 1st round is done so that all teams get access to the very best kids without interference in that round at least, and the F-S & Academy picks do not actually remove any "available" talent from the open draft pool as they are classified as a different group, but the compo picks do eat up the best kids in the draft if they are given out in the first round, with the AFL using their usual secret herbs and spices routine to judge that......!!!
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Still think we need to identify a better backup ruck than Pitto.
Sad fact is he's beyond useless around the ground as a marking target or as a resting forward.
Seems like a lovely fella but seriously....
HOK - has improved a lot, but is he 'ready'?
Sad fact is he's beyond useless around the ground as a marking target or as a resting forward.
Seems like a lovely fella but seriously....
HOK - has improved a lot, but is he 'ready'?
bradfisher14
Not actually Brad Fisher
You'd imagine with Daniher retiring that Brisbane may ask the question of us re: Harry or Charlie ...
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And they will receive the answer to that question very quickly
Pencil in Darling, would be a quick thanks for the offer North, but… cya the **** later
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Or Oscar Allen
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Sure, we'll start with Ashcroft and Lohmann. They got a better Ashcroft coming anyway...
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Don't think they'd bother.
For one thing, you don't strengthen a rival.
Even if we entertained the call, the demands on the other end would be so outlandish they'd never do it.
He's not far away. Another pre-season of bulk and tutoring from Kreuzer & co should have him pretty close.
If not, you can get away with JSOS and Harry pinch-hitting in the ruck until HO'K is ready.
