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Article on Leader Local footy, good read.
Official Club Stuff Carlton Academy - Next Gen & Father/Son/Daughter Discussion
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I thought he kicked 8 against 18 year old last year? From the midfield?
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Tall, 190 and should continue to grow, mid/forward, good agility and speed, nice leap
At this stage, 3rd tall, but might continue to grow into a KPP
Kicked 8 as a 15 year old when elevated to play in the Echuca under 18’s last year.
He is making his debut for Echuca seniors-still eligible to play in their under 16’s.
Removing points value from picks above 40 won't work for bids beyond 25 or 30 let alone 40+.
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It's his senior debut, and in a battle for top spot.
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I'd use the exact same system for F/S, academy and NGA, remove the discount and clubs can still match bids with whatever picks/points they can accumulate, wherever the bid comes
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Yep, required special permission due to his age.
Cracking effort for someone so young to break into what is quite a strong side.
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That’s what I saw at AFL level, but how did that get him to be pick 5?
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Surely you can’t make changes to a draft where teams have already made trades based on current rules.
Must have a live pick in the round a bid comes in makes little sense, a round is 18 picks long.
5 on the bench, piss off, the sub is to replace an injured player, if you don’t like it, go back to 4
Must have a live pick in the round a bid comes in makes little sense, a round is 18 picks long.
5 on the bench, piss off, the sub is to replace an injured player, if you don’t like it, go back to 4
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4cm to catch Charlie.
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pretty much would make it impossible to match a bid late in a round
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I agree - I think Carlton are against the rule changes coming in this year - not against the rule changes full stop which is what Ralph is trying to make out.
It does absolutely have to change though. It's still going under the radar a bit in the media but Qld academies are akin to SA clubs getting free access to all SA kids now - or one club getting 2-5 F/S picks every year. The talent pool is too big now.
They should cap the academy picks at 1 per draft.
If they don't reign it in now we're going to see an unprecedented period of domination by GC in a few years time. The media will be sooking up a storm then but it will be too late. It was a good idea when they were getting a player here and there but they're now getting 2-5 players every year including future superstars like Jed Walter who will be a gun.
How does that work? Seems back to front, I have no idea on that crap.
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Yeah, that's going to go down like a turd in a punchbowl.
Three clubs already planing on contesting it. There will probably be a couple more come the 25th. The AFL is doing their makey shit up again.
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I'm surprised that this hasn't appeared on here yet. Someone for the 42/43 draft.
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Richmond will definitely contest it. They traded in a bunch of late picks this year on the basis that teams would need points. Some of the proposals make these picks completely worthless
The system, and the way people value points, has always been nonsensical and they should get rid of it.
The problem is, you can’t make that decision AFTER clubs have already planned for a draft based on the current system. Needs to be a 2-3 draft lead time.
The problem is, you can’t make that decision AFTER clubs have already planned for a draft based on the current system. Needs to be a 2-3 draft lead time.
The father/son system is very much time honoured. It has not been a (major) issue for decades. Some clubs have benefitted more than others, but not to an overly incongruous degree. It should have little to no alteration in regulations other than perhaps a safeguard against perhaps having a third first rounder in any given year. A system demanding loss of the following year’s first rounder would be the very least of safeguards they could enact.
It runs the risk of being bastardised because of the success of the Northern Academies. They are doing their job well and becoming a juggernaut. Simply a system needs to be enacted precluding the Northern clubs to exclusive access for multiple genuine first rounders. On the surface the haul from last season’s draft was an outlier, however it is shaping as possible to become the norm. The elephant in the room is the ability to hide talent from the pathways, so policing is going to be next door to impossible.
Yes, we have a year of possibly two highish picks, but I am happy to go on record that father/son works. The down side for clubs is that taking the relatives which is expected should they show some ability, precludes the club from drafting for need in that particular year. Assuming we take the Campo boys, we will have a high volume accumulator with “average” disposal who divides opinion on his bona fides as a first rounder. His brother, to date, plays almost exclusively outside, his underage footy was superior to his now higher rated brother, but is showing up as an outside type, somewhat in the mould of LOB. In theory, he may be the better brother and we could be “hiding” him by not showing a real contested side in the underage games.
All of the scaremongering about needing two first round picks is nonsense. I don’t claim to be an expert, but am a close watcher who has a decent idea of most things around the draft. There is a small chance Ben goes in the early teens and Lucas mid twenties, but more likely Ben is a late first to early second rounder and Lucas could slide as far as the rookie draft.
It will be fascinating to see the changes, but I have little faith the makey upper AFL does it as equitably as practical. The academies deserve a return for their effort and investment, but not to the detriment of everyone else. They have opened up new frontiers, so to speak, but those frontiers are vast. The go home factor which has haunted the Northern clubs is now likely to work in reverse, should the AFL give substantial access to Victorian and other clubs for the “Gold Coast” kids.
Absolute can of worms…
It runs the risk of being bastardised because of the success of the Northern Academies. They are doing their job well and becoming a juggernaut. Simply a system needs to be enacted precluding the Northern clubs to exclusive access for multiple genuine first rounders. On the surface the haul from last season’s draft was an outlier, however it is shaping as possible to become the norm. The elephant in the room is the ability to hide talent from the pathways, so policing is going to be next door to impossible.
Yes, we have a year of possibly two highish picks, but I am happy to go on record that father/son works. The down side for clubs is that taking the relatives which is expected should they show some ability, precludes the club from drafting for need in that particular year. Assuming we take the Campo boys, we will have a high volume accumulator with “average” disposal who divides opinion on his bona fides as a first rounder. His brother, to date, plays almost exclusively outside, his underage footy was superior to his now higher rated brother, but is showing up as an outside type, somewhat in the mould of LOB. In theory, he may be the better brother and we could be “hiding” him by not showing a real contested side in the underage games.
All of the scaremongering about needing two first round picks is nonsense. I don’t claim to be an expert, but am a close watcher who has a decent idea of most things around the draft. There is a small chance Ben goes in the early teens and Lucas mid twenties, but more likely Ben is a late first to early second rounder and Lucas could slide as far as the rookie draft.
It will be fascinating to see the changes, but I have little faith the makey upper AFL does it as equitably as practical. The academies deserve a return for their effort and investment, but not to the detriment of everyone else. They have opened up new frontiers, so to speak, but those frontiers are vast. The go home factor which has haunted the Northern clubs is now likely to work in reverse, should the AFL give substantial access to Victorian and other clubs for the “Gold Coast” kids.
Absolute can of worms…
Laura was just on SEN....once again, she talks absolute garbage disguised in a mountain of bureauspeak.
And again, she intimated that there may be changes to the points system in this year's draft - but will all become clearer over the next 2-3 months!!! The reaction from Edmund, Whately and Kingy was that they were all bewildered that the AFL were considering changes to this year's draft - even if the changes were small given the long term planning that clubs have made to this point. AND that the changes will potentially be brought in on the eve of trade period!!
Bunch of ****ing amateurs running the largest sporting organisation in the country.
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Yeah, she is dreadful. Everytime she has an interview or presser im flabbergasted at the absolute drivel coming from her mouth disguised in grandiloquent speak.
Won't be at all surprised if they make changes to this year's draft with her in charge. Terrible first year on the job imo.
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