Banter Carlton is better in 2024. Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[Cleansweep17]

See Pies fans look at how Carlton get trading done, take some notes or Naicos is gonna get real lonely for the next 15 years.

 

[Delisted]

Owies does it again for the Blues. Brilliant.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Not at all.

The better performed players are the better performed players.

Someone like E. Hollands produced more to Carlton in his first year than the likes of Martin has in his entire time at Carlton.

Who would be different in your top 15? Who goes out for Silvagni?

So production output is now carrying more weight? What about importance to structure like your Collingwood list? Why don't your rules apply to ours?

For starters, you've got both Hewett & Kennedy in our top 15 - they both compete for the same spot, Hewett takes it, and Kennedy is thrown anywhere to plug a hole, and is one of the first to get dropped or made sub when we have a healthy list. So, he goes out for Silvagni - who can play everywhere Kennedy plays + the ruck.

If we have a healthy Jack Martin vs. a healthy Elijah Hollands in 2024, we're taking Jack Martin. We lack any quality small fwds and when he's fit - he's a walk up top 15 player easily, probably top 10. So Martin is in for E. Hollands.

The fact you've admittedly and purposefully excluded injury prone players from a top-15 list that you're using to measure the impact of a teams injuries is really, really dumb & you should give yourself an uppercut.

 

[Fadge]

See Pies fans look at how Carlton get trading done, take some notes or Naicos is gonna get real lonely for the next 15 years.

Yep.

Pies fans are real jealous about the success Carlton's high draft picks have had in recent times...

 

[Fadge]

So production output is now carrying more weight? What about importance to structure like your Collingwood list? Why don't your rules apply to ours?

For starters, you've got both Hewett & Kennedy in our top 15 - they both compete for the same spot, Hewett takes it, and Kennedy is thrown anywhere to plug a hole, and is one of the first to get dropped or made sub when we have a healthy list. So, he goes out for Silvagni - who can play everywhere Kennedy plays + the ruck.

If we have a healthy Jack Martin vs. a healthy Elijah Hollands in 2024, we're taking Jack Martin. We lack any quality small fwds and when he's fit - he's a walk up top 15 player easily, probably top 10. So Martin is in for E. Hollands.

The fact you've admittedly and purposefully excluded injury prone players from a top-15 list that you're using to measure the impact of a teams injuries is really, really dumb & you should give yourself an uppercut.

Jack Martin a Top 10 player at Carlton.....

Well I guess that's yet another explanation as to why you've been so shite for so long...

 

[Corn Cobbers]

See Pies fans look at how Carlton get trading done, take some notes or Naicos is gonna get real lonely for the next 15 years.

Eagles fans are going ape-shit

Cmon Pies lift and get Houston

 

[Fadge]

Eagles fans are going ape-shit

Cmon Pies lift and get Houston

Out Houston, in Membrey.

Oh well.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Out Houston, in Membrey.

Oh well.

Membrey probably addresses a more dire need

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Jack Martin a Top 10 player at Carlton.....

Well I guess that's yet another explanation as to why you've been so shite for so long...

Can't provide any meaningful rebuttals, back to garbage.

You took pot shots at E Hollands all year, now he's in our top 15 because again, it suits your argument.

What about last year when our injuries weren't even bad because our top 6 played most games. Fast forward 1 year and your mantra has changed to top 15.

Embarrassing.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Embarrassing.

No what's embarrassing is Carlton using injuries as an excuse EVERY SINGLE YEAR

No top 4 finishes in 25 years because of injuries, terrible luck

 

[doppleganger]

Geez these Pies fans are hilarious.

'Carlton have had so many 1st rounders it's a joke"
'Collingwood have had jsut as many'
'yeah but your 1st rounders were earlier!!!'[/I]

Do any Carlton fans bother to check anything they post.

Good ol wormy has no idea, but the Baggers just take anything he says as fact.

Fact is Carlton have had more pick 1s, more top 5, more top 10 picks (pick whatever top end pick cut-off you want) in last 25 drafts and they have nothing to show for it.

They just added another top5 pick with trading, another unproven kid who may not amount to anything...but they "win" the trade period.

Meanwhile the Pies bring in established quality senior players and win premierships.