Banter Carlton is better in 2024. Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[Cleansweep17]

See Pies fans look at how Carlton get trading done, take some notes or Naicos is gonna get real lonely for the next 15 years.

 

[Delisted]

Owies does it again for the Blues. Brilliant.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Not at all.

The better performed players are the better performed players.

Someone like E. Hollands produced more to Carlton in his first year than the likes of Martin has in his entire time at Carlton.

Who would be different in your top 15? Who goes out for Silvagni?

So production output is now carrying more weight? What about importance to structure like your Collingwood list? Why don't your rules apply to ours?

For starters, you've got both Hewett & Kennedy in our top 15 - they both compete for the same spot, Hewett takes it, and Kennedy is thrown anywhere to plug a hole, and is one of the first to get dropped or made sub when we have a healthy list. So, he goes out for Silvagni - who can play everywhere Kennedy plays + the ruck.

If we have a healthy Jack Martin vs. a healthy Elijah Hollands in 2024, we're taking Jack Martin. We lack any quality small fwds and when he's fit - he's a walk up top 15 player easily, probably top 10. So Martin is in for E. Hollands.

The fact you've admittedly and purposefully excluded injury prone players from a top-15 list that you're using to measure the impact of a teams injuries is really, really dumb & you should give yourself an uppercut.

 

[Fadge]

See Pies fans look at how Carlton get trading done, take some notes or Naicos is gonna get real lonely for the next 15 years.

Yep.

Pies fans are real jealous about the success Carlton's high draft picks have had in recent times...

 

[Fadge]

So production output is now carrying more weight? What about importance to structure like your Collingwood list? Why don't your rules apply to ours?

For starters, you've got both Hewett & Kennedy in our top 15 - they both compete for the same spot, Hewett takes it, and Kennedy is thrown anywhere to plug a hole, and is one of the first to get dropped or made sub when we have a healthy list. So, he goes out for Silvagni - who can play everywhere Kennedy plays + the ruck.

If we have a healthy Jack Martin vs. a healthy Elijah Hollands in 2024, we're taking Jack Martin. We lack any quality small fwds and when he's fit - he's a walk up top 15 player easily, probably top 10. So Martin is in for E. Hollands.

The fact you've admittedly and purposefully excluded injury prone players from a top-15 list that you're using to measure the impact of a teams injuries is really, really dumb & you should give yourself an uppercut.

Jack Martin a Top 10 player at Carlton.....

Well I guess that's yet another explanation as to why you've been so shite for so long...

 

[Corn Cobbers]

See Pies fans look at how Carlton get trading done, take some notes or Naicos is gonna get real lonely for the next 15 years.

Eagles fans are going ape-shit

Cmon Pies lift and get Houston

 

[Fadge]

Eagles fans are going ape-shit

Cmon Pies lift and get Houston

Out Houston, in Membrey.

Oh well.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Out Houston, in Membrey.

Oh well.

Membrey probably addresses a more dire need

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Jack Martin a Top 10 player at Carlton.....

Well I guess that's yet another explanation as to why you've been so shite for so long...

Can't provide any meaningful rebuttals, back to garbage.

You took pot shots at E Hollands all year, now he's in our top 15 because again, it suits your argument.

What about last year when our injuries weren't even bad because our top 6 played most games. Fast forward 1 year and your mantra has changed to top 15.

Embarrassing.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Embarrassing.

No what's embarrassing is Carlton using injuries as an excuse EVERY SINGLE YEAR

No top 4 finishes in 25 years because of injuries, terrible luck

 

[doppleganger]

Geez these Pies fans are hilarious.

'Carlton have had so many 1st rounders it's a joke"
'Collingwood have had jsut as many'
'yeah but your 1st rounders were earlier!!!'[/I]

Do any Carlton fans bother to check anything they post.

Good ol wormy has no idea, but the Baggers just take anything he says as fact.

Fact is Carlton have had more pick 1s, more top 5, more top 10 picks (pick whatever top end pick cut-off you want) in last 25 drafts and they have nothing to show for it.

They just added another top5 pick with trading, another unproven kid who may not amount to anything...but they "win" the trade period.

Meanwhile the Pies bring in established quality senior players and win premierships.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

No what's embarrassing is Carlton using injuries as an excuse EVERY SINGLE YEAR

No top 4 finishes in 25 years because of injuries, terrible luck

Nope, go back & check where the conversation started. Old mate Fudge was literally using injuries as an excuse for their poor year, as he has been for weeks.

Shockingly though, Carltons injuries cannot be mentioned.

Brisbane improve courtesy of a full season from Ashcroft, but Collingwood having lost 73 games between 6 of our best 15 can't expect any improvement on our 2024 performance, in which we beat Brisbane twice (including one of their only two losses in their last 16 games).

That's quite brilliant analysis.

 

[Robertio]

Do any Carlton fans bother to check anything they post.

Good ol wormy has no idea, but the Baggers just take anything he says as fact.

Fact is Carlton have had more pick 1s, more top 5, more top 10 picks (pick whatever top end pick cut-off you want) in last 25 drafts and they have nothing to show for it.

They just added another top5 pick with trading, another unproven kid who may not amount to anything...but they "win" the trade period.

Meanwhile the Pies bring in established quality senior players and win premierships.

Yeah we get pick 3 in a very good draft and the Pies are liking Membrey lol, and don't forget we finished higher in 2024.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Yeah we get pick 3 in a very good draft and the Pies are liking Membrey lol, and don't forget we finished higher in 2024.

Membrey the messiah!

Craig 'i want players not picks' Mcrae should watch this scene.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Membrey, McStay and Mihocek

Pies Triple M attack

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Membrey, McStay and Mihocek

Pies Triple M attack

Hide them from De Goey, he will guzzle them like water.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

How did ol’ Leppa go today, poor guy.

At least he’s got Membrey to hang his hat on .

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Owies officially an Eagle.

I can picture it now....

Owies grabbing at his jumper kicking the sealer in the final home and away round against Carlton with 10 seconds to go, enabling West Coast to leapfrog Carlton into 17th position and resigning Carlton to another wooden spoon.

No he’ll kick the winner in the grand final against Lollingwood.

Remember this;

 

[Fadge]

I'm still waiting to hear from Carlton supporters as to who their club is targeting with Pick 4, who will undoubtedly be a better player that picks 12 and 14 combined?

Or, Pick 12 and next year's first and second round picks...

Does this bring back memories of the Liam Stocker

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Liam Stocker

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

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Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

trade for anyone?

 

[Fadge]

No he’ll kick the winner in the grand final against Lollingwood.

Remember this;

Oh, who would have guessed?

A Carlton supporter living vicariously through another team's exploits...

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Oh, who would have guessed?

A Carlton supporter living vicariously through another team's exploits...

More like another teams failures Fadge ol boy!

 

[Corn Cobbers]

No he’ll kick the winner in the grand final against Lollingwood.

Remember this;

So you've jumped off Carlton and on the Eagles now, probably a smart move

 

[Fadge]

More like another teams failures Fadge ol boy!

2018 - Collingwood get beaten in the Grand Final by 5 points, in a year when Carlton win two games in total and claim another wooden spoon.

Yet Carlton supporters claim 2018 was a 'failure' for Collingwood....

Oh my.

 

[Fadge]

So you've jumped off Carlton and on the Eagles now, probably a smart move

At least the Eagles know what it takes to build a list to contend for a premiership in the modern era.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

So you've jumped off Carlton and on the Eagles now, probably a smart move

We love The Eagles, my new 2nd team - especially their LM Team .